butchna
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Wow, you put 40mg Triamcinolone in a single joint combined with HA??? Do you not think that’s excessive? I often inject 4-8 joints at a time with my horses, and don’t exceed 30 mg total dose in all the joints combined. Usually only use about 18-20mg total dose. I am so glad to see a human orthopedist that combines HA with steroid. I almost always do it, and it’s very common practice in equine Sports medicine. I use triamcinolone or betamethasone in almost all of my Joints except lower tarsal joints (tarsometatarsal and distal intertarsal) in which I use 40mg Depomedrol with 10mg HA. Are you using any polyacrylamide gel in end-stage joints?It’s an excellent type job. I would definitely find out what your oncall status will be. How often do you have to round on weekends, etc. Call is the unfun part...
Ask if they do PRP and Stem cell injections.
Ask for Ultrasound training (invaluable for musculoskeletal practices). It’s absolutely great for Baker’s cysts. Also for Suprapatellar recess injections (great for Synvisc One injections...otherwise they hurt). Many insurers require Synvisc for gel injections or I wouldn’t use it. >30% of people have a painful synovitis flare after Synvisc, whether it is the 3 series or One. Once I learned that, I just inject with 40 mg Kenalog whenever I have to use Synvisc. (Treatment for the reactive synovitis is a steroid shot). Have had zero synovitis flares since I started doing that. Ultrasound is also excellent for hip injections...office procedure and easier than fluoroscopy guidance. You can make plenty of diagnoses with Iltrasound as well. Invaluable for Piriformis injections (common problem after THA)
Use the smallest needle that you can for shots. I typically use a 25 gauge. Don’t ever use an 18 gauge, except to draw up the meds or to aspirate a potential Infected joint. (Or Baker’s Cyst). If you don’t draw up your injection meds, make sure that they don’t use the same needle to draw meds that you then use for the injection...dulls the needle and it hurts more. If you need to use bigger than a 25 gauge, then use the cold spray or put a lidocaine skin wheal. Always pull the skin taut before sticking the needle in, allows the sharp needle to slide through the skin rather than tearing a hole through loose skin...
I use a 22 or 20 gauge to inject the viscosupplementation gel. Easier to inject.
Once through the skin, advance the needle slowly. That way you don’t hit anything that you shouldn’t. Over time, you will be able to feel when you pass through the joint capsule... If the patient feels more than pressure, stop and redirect the needle slightly. Inject slowly and it shouldn’t hurt. If it hurts (not pressure) you are in something that you shouldn’t be (ligament, cartilage, etc). If it’s difficult to inject, you definitely are. That’s why I don’t use 18 gauge, you can inject into cartilage, ligament, and even bone with an 18 gauge...
That’s how I teach injections.
I hope that helps. Best advice that I ever got was to use the smallest possible needle...
Wow, you put 40mg Triamcinolone in a single joint combined with HA??? Do you not think that’s excessive? I often inject 4-8 joints at a time with my horses, and don’t exceed 30 mg total dose in all the joints combined. Usually only use about 18-20mg total dose. I am so glad to see a human orthopedist that combines HA with steroid. I almost always do it, and it’s very common practice in equine Sports medicine. I use triamcinolone or betamethasone in almost all of my Joints except lower tarsal joints (tarsometatarsal and distal intertarsal) in which I use 40mg Depomedrol with 10mg HA. Are you using any polyacrylamide gel in end-stage joints?

Wow, you put 40mg Triamcinolone in a single joint combined with HA??? Do you not think that’s excessive? I often inject 4-8 joints at a time with my horses, and don’t exceed 30 mg total dose in all the joints combined. Usually only use about 18-20mg total dose. I am so glad to see a human orthopedist that combines HA with steroid. I almost always do it, and it’s very common practice in equine Sports medicine. I use triamcinolone or betamethasone in almost all of my Joints except lower tarsal joints (tarsometatarsal and distal intertarsal) in which I use 40mg Depomedrol with 10mg HA. Are you using any polyacrylamide gel in end-stage joints?
I don’t want to get in another posting argument with SSVOL...Vitamin D taught me that.
The main thing to remember is universal precautions. Wear a mask FOR OTHERS. Wash your hands frequently. Actually social distance. Love your family and keep them safe. If everyone does this, then this is over.
That’s it.
Oh and slap a person that’s not willing to protect others. Tell them to put others needs before their own. It will help them become a better person.
I use Hyvisc and do not have any problems with flares, but I always use steroids with it. I think you are only using 10mg Kenalog in the joint. We use Kenalog too, and it’s 50mg in the 5cc vial, so 10mg/mL.Its one cc of Kenalog. The Synvisc synovitis flare is so painful that I don’t want to take a chance...
Not sure that the polyacrylamide is approved for himans yet. I have seen a clinical trial with it is going on now.
What’s your opinion about Adequan? I want that to get to human trials...
I don’t want to get in another posting argument with SSVOL...Vitamin D taught me that.
The main thing to remember is universal precautions. Wear a mask FOR OTHERS. Wash your hands frequently. Actually social distance. Love your family and keep them safe. If everyone does this, then this is over.
That’s it.
Oh and slap a person that’s not willing to protect others. Tell them to put others needs before their own. It will help them become a better person.
This is the difference. Died with COVID versus died from COVID. The information was then reported as if everyone will die from it. Which caused people to go to the other extreme when it became obvious that was not true. It is a bad virus that no one wants to get. It is serious for those who already have other health issues. The question then becomes how do we "live" in spite of this.Ummmm....the hospitals sent the cdc the information that was requested of them. The cdc compiled the numbers. It has been said for months that the information was incorrect...that numbers for covid deaths were being compiled with false information being used. False information being that the individuals did not actually die from covid, but only had covid at time of death. Information being used as a covid death just because the person had covid at some time before they died...etc...etc.
Oh...and the hospitals got paid extra money for any covid related death. Did Trump authorize that? No. No he didn't.
