Tennessee shuts practice down for Covid-19 reasons

[cgrish]

Well....if they get it now, they will have a level of immune system protection for the regular season. Which will be fine AS LONG AS none have any long-term complications.

It appears to me; that covid is in the air and mask or distancing does not do anything to prevent a person from getting it. Are the football players not in a bubble, and separated from others?

 

[GAVol]

It appears to me; that covid is in the air and mask or distancing does not do anything to prevent a person from getting it. Are the football players not in a bubble, and separated from others?

They’re living on a college campus. That’s pretty much the opposite of living in a bubble.

 

[tbones0711]

Its stupid. The whole thing is stupid. I feel like EVERYONE deep down knows this season can't and won't happen but everyone is going through the motions anyway, pretending like it will. It's why I can't get excited. Its why I've barely been keeping up with news or listening to talk shows. Because I know where this is headed which is a non season.

kinda sounds bout right for the college game. NFL is different story and they'll likely have a season mainly because the players are better equipped to isolate themselves. All it takes is one asymptomatic player to have close contact with a few people and this virus spreads quick. I think it lives longer in cooler temperatures also. Trying like heck to be optimistic but it's gonna be a tough row to hoe,imo.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Who will be surprised if the same that tested positive are tested again in a couple of days and they are suddenly negative?

The test has a 30% false positive rate so that is very possible.

 

[The Original Fade]

"All but 3"...out of 5. So...2.

Or, if you meant the entirety of the FBS, 6 out of the 10 conferences are playing.

Either way, more than half are still in. Your "all but 3" was probably not INTENDED to be misleading in your favor, but it was nonetheless, Fade. Heh.

I never mislead unless I think no one will call me on it or do research to counter my argument

 

[AdmiralVFL98]

Well, no one uses a year of eligibility, I believe. So it is what it is....and if the students keep partying, the whole student body will achieve herd immunity before football season starts (including the players).

Be pretty safe then.

Covid19 is a corona virus, as are many viruses that cause the “common cold”. It can’t be stated with certainty (as is true with most things that have to do with this damn virus), but most research shows immunity lasting 3-6 months which would be similar to that of the common cold. There was an article today about the first confirmed case of reinfection in the US. I hate to be so negative, but herd immunity may never be possible for this thing. I hope I’m wrong.

Edit: I felt guilty about being so damn negative, so here’s an article for anyone that is interested that paints a more optimistic picture:

How strong is the immune response to COVID-19 infection?

 

[VolinMichigan]

They’re living on a college campus. That’s pretty much the opposite of living in a bubble.

More like a Petri dish

 

[hUTch2002]

I know of 7 kids who would obliviously be spreading the virus right now if not for being tested. Only one of them had symptoms at all. Thankfully they were all smart enough to be tested so they could keep it from older family members and the general public.

Except you can’t test every person every day so what’s the point? Test negative today and get it tomorrow.

 

[CA_Vol]

So I guess they are cancelling the march tomorrow as well?

Can’t let a pandemic get in the way of some social justicing.

 

[hUTch2002]

It appears to me; that covid is in the air and mask or distancing does not do anything to prevent a person from getting it. Are the football players not in a bubble, and separated from others?

They are at Duke and it still went from 2 to 30 players in about a month.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Can’t let a pandemic get in the way of some social justicing.

HOW DARE YOU POINT THAT OUT

*insert leftist mental gymnastics that deny the obvious hypocrisy"

 

[DiderotsGhost]

Well....if they get it now, they will have a level of immune system protection for the regular season. Which will be fine AS LONG AS none have any long-term complications.

It's a pretty big "if" unfortunately. The studies on Covid have shown a very large % of people having longer-term (or at least medium-term) issues. Given the age of these guys, they'll likely recover, but completely plausible that many players that get Covid-19 now (in late August) are still going to have lingering issues by October.

I'm about 99% sure I had a coronavirus cold around Thanksgiving 2016. It was awful. I woke up one night and couldn't breathe. My girlfriend had to use her inhaler on me. Even 3-4 months later, I could tell that my breathing wasn't 100% back to normal when I exercised. I didn't feel 100% back to "normal" till almost April or May. And that was a cold; this is worse.

Sure it'll be easier for a 19 or 21 year old than someone older, but I still wouldn't be surprised if some of the players who have it now are struggling with endurance and breathing in 2-3 months. It could make for a weird season.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Yeah because not testing will make it go away...

If you hooked up with “Candace,” on spring break, 20 years ago and had an illegitimate child, 4 states away that you knew nothing about, does that make you a father?

Asking for a friend...

GBO!!

 

[cobbwebb0710]

More like a Petri dish

The Petri dish at Wong’s palace is delicious!
GBO!!

 

[VOLfrombama]

Why would we need a vaccine if herd immunity isn't possible?

The vaccine is more likely to be short lived, like the flu vaccine, than the polio vaccine. Jmo. Besides, do we even have a vaccine available? Not to my knowledge.

If you know of one, please post a link. I really enjoy reading about these things. And not the trial ones, ive read all those. Im looking for the one that’s been proven and ready for distribution, where clinical results have proven it works.

 

[VOLfrombama]

Weak article.

This is basically just an opinion piece. There have been more than one person to say that we may only need 20% to get the virus to be immune.

Again its another slanderous article against Sweden's policy comparing it to its neighbors as if its even a fair comparison. Sweden has twice the populations of Denmark, Finland, and Norway and Stockholm is far more densely populated than any other Nordic city. Sweden also has a high population of immigrants after the refugee crisis, so that exacerbated the issue more, as the immigrants live in closer quarters. The other countries don't have that issue.

A better comparison would be Belgium or the Netherlands. Netherlands has 17 million people, Belgium 11 million and Sweden 10.

Neth. 69,000 cases over 6,000 deaths
Sweden 83,000 cases 5,000+ deaths

Sweden with a lower death rate and lower rate per capita.

Belgium 83,000 cases and just under 10,000 deaths.

The difference? Sweden DID NOT LOCKDOWN and they still have better numbers than these countries and a better economy.

The deaths have been around zero for weeks in Sweden where they have no mask mandates, and according to my best friend who lives in Stockholm and other publications, people have not been wearing masks much for months. My buddy said he rarely saw anybody in Stockholm with a mask on back on July 4th. Remains the same today.

And about those deaths they have. All old or very sick people.

Almost all of those deaths occurred months ago. Since then they have quarantined their elderly and protected nursing homes better.

I mean when they elected to not lockdown the "experts" were all saying that Sweden would be screwed, but they are proving that this virus aint s**t if you just protect the vulnerable.

You call that article weak, but it was based off medical research. The statements made were from medical research. The quotes the article used to summarize the study were verbatim from the study. Nothing weak about that. Also I double checked and not one contributor was from the WHO. The Royal Society of Medicine is funded by the people and donations. The review process of journal entries and publications is conducted Internally by members of the Royal Society of Medicine.

Also the Netherlands has 17.28 million people.
Sweden as 10 mil
The other countries you downplayed have 5 mil each. So they’re all statistically the different in size.
Yet when you even the playing field by reporting in per million people (pmp) Sweden is only behind the UK in deaths pmp out of all the countries you mentioned and the medical community mentioned. The UK has 30 million people btw.

Please post the link to your statistics so I can read them myself. I really enjoy reading this type of stuff.

 

[BeardenVol]

I've noticed all the players are wearing the "bubble" helmets in practice, presumably for more protection. With all the safety concerns these days, why wouldn't they continue to wear them in games?

 

[VOLfrombama]

I'm not saying that, at all. I'm saying that locking down only delays the inevitable and causes MASSIVE collateral damage.

I'm sorry that you take my information as "politicized" or a "sales pitch." Bear in mind that I have been treating infectious diseases for 20 years, am in regular communication with our tertiary-care hospital and the specialists there, have close friends that practice immunology and hospital-based adult medicine, and *gasp* have actually cared for CV19 patients. In addition, I read current peer-reviewed and pending-review literature on a near-daily basis.

Its funny you say that. I have been going to a Cardiologist for a couple months now due to heart complications from Covid. So it has thrust me into doing a lot of research. I have also met with 30 cardiologists ove that time due to the rare nature of my current condition. I will have surgery soon btw.

The point I am trying to get to is that they all have given me recommendations for medical journals. I have read quite a few. Also 29/30 of those doctors, 2 graduated from Harvard medical school, say we need to quasi-lock down, wear masks to protect the people surrounding us, and social distance to drive this thing down.
i have also overseen the opening and development of our Lab. We are one of the few fungal and bacterial labs in the state. We do not do medical analysis, only environmental. But we do have to conduct a lot of research, obtain certifications, and maintain numerous safety protocols for things like Legionellla, Histoplasma cap., Crypto, mold, and several other fungi. So I understand quite a lot how infectious disease works and have access to a lot of great medical journals, of which i read constantly now due to my ongoing issues.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I've noticed all the players are wearing the "bubble" helmets in practice, presumably for more protection. With all the safety concerns these days, why wouldn't they continue to wear them in games?

My best guess if is that they don’t want to cover up that majestic Orange power T on the white background. Jmo

 

[BeardenVol]

My best guess if is that they don’t want to cover up that majestic Orange power T on the white background. Jmo

They're certainly lacking the "cool factor", but safety is paramount in our society. Looks like they would be as concerned about head injuries as they are about COVID.

 

[FortSanders]

I just don't see how we are going to be able to complete the season. I want football to be played as bad as anyone. But, I just don't see how. I mean if you have a game on Saturday and you have 15 starters test positive. There is no way you are going to have a chance to win the game. What type of a win or loss is it when you beat someone with most of their starters out do to this Covid crap? Do we just count this season or what we play of it as practice games?

Look, if Alabama's team is out sick, that would be a forfeit.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I know. Don’t you just hate it when Fauci opens his mouth.

You just made my point and underlined it. Thanks.

 

[VOLfrombama]

They're certainly lacking the "cool factor", but safety is paramount in our society. Looks like they would be as concerned about head injuries as they are about COVID.

Very good point. Ive wonderered recently why someone hasnt been able to make a helmet that is made of that material on the inside and out (double layered) instead of a plastic shell that has zero forgiveness.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I'm not saying that, at all. I'm saying that locking down only delays the inevitable and causes MASSIVE collateral damage.

I'm sorry that you take my information as "politicized" or a "sales pitch." Bear in mind that I have been treating infectious diseases for 20 years, am in regular communication with our tertiary-care hospital and the specialists there, have close friends that practice immunology and hospital-based adult medicine, and *gasp* have actually cared for CV19 patients. In addition, I read current peer-reviewed and pending-review literature on a near-daily basis.

Soyou believe in lett9ng people die with no attempt to prevent and save infection and death. i f you are a physician, you took an oath to protect and cure people to the best of youyr ability. While it is true that people will die someday, people in the medical fiel msut do everything possible to prevent, treat and cure adverse medical conditions when ever possible.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Soyou believe in lett9ng people die with no attempt to prevent and save infection and death. i f you are a physician, you took an oath to protect and cure people to the best of youyr ability. While it is true that people will die someday, people in the medical fiel msut do everything possible to prevent, treat and cure adverse medical conditions when ever possible.

Whoa, whoa, that's a completely unfair attack.

First: nowhere in anything he said was there any intimation that Kiddiedoc "believes in letting people die with no attempt" to save them. Nowhere. And it is hugely insulting for you to accuse any physician that way. Completely without basis or reason. You owe the dude an apology, whatever your other disagreements.

Second, he has lived with the oath he took, day in and day out, for as many years as he has been practicing. I'll bet money he understands it in every detail far better than you. You shouldn't have anywhere near the amount of hubris you do, lecturing him on his oath.

Volinvonore, you may not think that was a personal attack, but it was. You questioned his professionalism, entirely without reason. Totally uncalled for. You need to step back.