Tennessee shuts practice down for Covid-19 reasons

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Um no they are vastly over reported. Multiple times this year different health departments have had to adjust their numbers down.
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Her's proof of what was happening. Our Governor was busted and had to have a press conference to announce they were going to start reporting the numbers correctly. How would we ever know if they ever did start to report accurate numbers? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Relevant quote form the County Coroner for those that don't want to read the full article.

“I know it’s not correct,” George Deavers told 9Wants to Know Thursday. “Nowhere on the death certificate is COVID even listed. It had nothing to do with his death.”

Colorado coroner says death listed by state as COVID-19 related has much more to do with alcohol
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm about as close as you will find around here, and I'll chime in.
1) This mass-testing of asymptomatic people is insane. PCR is of little to no utility without clinical correlation. Having a positive PCR by no means indicates that a person has active infection nor is contagious.
2) Herd immunity is certainly achievable (earlier referenced in the thread). See: Sweden, NYC, and now basically all the US states and European countries with later waves. Importantly, it also appears that the infection rate required to reach the HI Threshold may be as low as around 20%. There is extensive discussion of this in the Politics Forum CV thread.
3) The risk of severe CV19 infection in children, young adults, and healthy adults in general is exceedingly small. For children and young adults, it is actually even lower than the risk from influenza. Knowing this, and that the only way to achieve immunity/"get through this" is through exposure to and clearance of the virus, disqualifying and quarantining children and young, healthy adults is nothing short of absurd.
4) With all of the above in mind, the elderly/at-risk population should be protected while the rest of us work through the course of this virus.
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Appreciate the chime in - #4 is what is so difficult with a virus spread so easily
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
I’m surprised to see you posting this since you’ve spent months claiming that there wouldn’t be a season and, yet, football starts tomorrow while the Vols kickoff in 29 days.

So, I must ask... what expertise lead you to being so wrong?
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Well all but 3 conferences are not playing this year, so there’s that. But if the SEC kicks off on time and finishes the year, I’m happy to be wrong.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Well all but 3 conferences are not playing this year, so there’s that. But if the SEC kicks off on time and finishes the year, I’m happy to be wrong.
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"All but 3"...out of 5. So...2.

Or, if you meant the entirety of the FBS, 6 out of the 10 conferences are playing.

Either way, more than half are still in. Your "all but 3" was probably not INTENDED to be misleading in your favor, but it was nonetheless, Fade. Heh.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Is Herd immunity even a real factor? I heard again this week of people acquiring Covid twice.
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Maybe only people with an extremely weak immune system. You don't get rid of the same strain of virus and then catch that same strain again. That's not the way our bodies work. If it is true that you can catch the same strain of the virus then a vaccine is out the window.
 
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I thought I read that back in April 7% of Sweden had antibodies. Have an additional 63% gotten them since or is 70% not the magic number for herd?
 
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tallshortvol said:
Why in the world would they stop testing? Also, tons of high schools have shut back down, had in person classes delayed, etc. due to outbreaks. Not sure what exactly is working for them that's better than what UT Football is doing.
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They get tested if they are running a temp.
They check them before entering field house. So far no problem and no spikes. Played 2 games.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Where are you guys hearing this? I just read a medical journal that stated the exact opposite on Sweden, from August 12, 2020. So naturally I would love to read your sources as well.
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How has Sweden fared in comparison with its Nordic neighbors that chose more comprehensive interventions? As of August 11, COVID-19 cases in Denmark, Norway, and Finland amounted so far to 14,959, 9,712, and 7,623, respectively; deaths per million are at 107, 47, and 60, respectively. In Sweden, cases stood at 83,126 and deaths per million at 571. In the U.S., meanwhile, cases totaled 5,265,034 with deaths per million were at 503.

How did Sweden's less vigorous adoption of non-pharmaceutical interventions affect its economy? Sweden's GDP dropped 8.6 percent in the second quarter, compared to the European Union average of 11.9 percent. On the other hand, Sweden's unemployment rate rose to 9.8 percent in June, while the European Union's overall unemployment rate is 7.1 percent. And Sweden's neighbors? Denmark's unemployment rate is 5.5 percent; Norway's is 4.6 percent; Finland's is 7.9 percent. Meanwhile, the U.S economy shrank in the second quarter by 9.5 percent, and our an unemployment rate at the end of July stood at 10 percent.

Did Sweden Accidentally Blunder into COVID-19 Herd Immunity?

Sweden has recorded its highest death toll in 150 years in the first half of 2020 amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to the country’s official statistics office.

The Scandinavian nation, which refused to implement a COVID-19 lockdown, tallied 51,405 deaths between January and June — the highest number of fatalities in the first half of a year since 1869
 
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MurphyVol said:
I thought I read that back in April 7% of Sweden had antibodies. Have an additional 63% gotten them since or is 70% not the magic number for herd?
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It is not. Read up on T cell protection, likely attributed to prior exposure to other Coronaviruses. It is estimated by many experts that somewhere between 40-70% of populations have a baseline "immunity," without evidence of SARS-Cov-2 antibodies.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Very true. Importantly, natural infection usually results in stronger and longer-lasting protection due to the development of memory T-cells.
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Yes! I just don't understand why this is so complicated for people to understand. If antibodies disappear in your body then it doesn't mean that you still aren't immune, antibodies are just part of the immune system.

A vaccine is a solid alternative by tricking your body into developing immunity, but nothing beats the real thing. This is just part of life and people need to quit panicking and just use common sense.
 
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utvolpj said:
The odds are highly against that happening at all for their age group
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Actually the odds are against the individual dying. But, when hundreds or thousands of college players get it, the odds are that somebody will die. I hope not. Just putting the logic in there.
 
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37620VOL said:
Over a 3 month period (March to May) total US deaths were up 120k from the same period the prior year. What would you attribute the increase to?

Over the same period only 95k covid deaths were reported.
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That number means nothing over a short term. Deaths could have been accelerated for various reasons (think sending covid patients to nursing homes). The death rate needs to be watched. If it normalizes, and you see reduced numbers that take the death rate back to normal levels, you had accelerated death, but not increased death. Do not carry this out too far, though. Eventually the death rate is 100%.
 
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WillisWG said:
How has Sweden fared in comparison with its Nordic neighbors that chose more comprehensive interventions? As of August 11, COVID-19 cases in Denmark, Norway, and Finland amounted so far to 14,959, 9,712, and 7,623, respectively; deaths per million are at 107, 47, and 60, respectively. In Sweden, cases stood at 83,126 and deaths per million at 571. In the U.S., meanwhile, cases totaled 5,265,034 with deaths per million were at 503.

How did Sweden's less vigorous adoption of non-pharmaceutical interventions affect its economy? Sweden's GDP dropped 8.6 percent in the second quarter, compared to the European Union average of 11.9 percent. On the other hand, Sweden's unemployment rate rose to 9.8 percent in June, while the European Union's overall unemployment rate is 7.1 percent. And Sweden's neighbors? Denmark's unemployment rate is 5.5 percent; Norway's is 4.6 percent; Finland's is 7.9 percent. Meanwhile, the U.S economy shrank in the second quarter by 9.5 percent, and our an unemployment rate at the end of July stood at 10 percent.

Did Sweden Accidentally Blunder into COVID-19 Herd Immunity?
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Thanks for the link. Everyone else failed to provide anything i can read, especially research conducted by the medical community.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Yeah, sure 👍
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I encourage you to research Illinois press conferences on Covid deaths...where they say that...also they say that actual death from Covid alone are about 9% of the total number... But we can agree to disagree....just watch how the CDC and WHO start going back on testing and death toll as the election come closer...!
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
I also heard there is little to zero mask wearing.

It's almost like they realized that it only kills very vulnerable unhealthy or old people, attempted to quarantine them while letting everyone else cautiously go about their lives and gain an immunity.
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Kinda like the flu, huh?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Its stupid. The whole thing is stupid. I feel like EVERYONE deep down knows this season can't and won't happen but everyone is going through the motions anyway, pretending like it will. It's why I can't get excited. Its why I've barely been keeping up with news or listening to talk shows. Because I know where this is headed which is a non season.
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Is your name one of those ironic names like a huge guy named Tiny?
 
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