Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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Yafo is so good we actually had to find mock recipes online so we could recreate it for our family. Made it last night as a matter of fact. Haven’t tried Sabor yet so we will have to check that out. I’m in Ft Mill and the Improper Pig has good bbq if you want to travel to the burbs.

How did it turn out and can you save me some serious money giving me the recipes? Lol

I make it Ft Mill from time to time and if I could score a wife, would highly consider moving there. But I'm currently in a great part of town. I had Improper Pig when they were in Cotswold. Maybe they're still there. It was good.
 
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What is the difference between playing in mid-late September and playing in February? Are we going to mask the virus into non-existence? Vaccine magically going to appear that's 100% effective? More nonsense. No more hiding from this thing. It's here and we've gotta deal with it. Everyone wants to kick the can down the road and no one wants to make the tough decision to just live with it.
The election will be over in February.
 
I know there are some attorneys here, question for y'all:

What is the difference between the liability with covid vs the liability issue already present with all the risks attached to football?

Also, what is the difference between the covid liability risk of 10,000 students on campus and the 110 football players?

Tia

I honestly don't think there's much difference in the legal liability between those two situations. I think you're seeing these administrators putting more emphasis on the court of public opinion. Because college football players are generally the most high profile college athletes (give or take a few basketball players), a death from Covid19 would immediately turn the public against them. Most people understand the reason that students need to go back to school, but they are also going to point to something "extracurricular" like football and say "that could have been avoided."

I honestly think a lot of the "legal liability" talk from the schools, conferences, etc. is a bit of a smokescreen for a few reasons. 1. Causation is going to be extremely tough to prove in any suit involving covid. It's going to be hard to track how a player got the virus. There are too many variables or mitigating factors to ever really point the finger at the business or institution to convincingly say, "i got it here." 2. I think the only way schools or business are going to be in real danger here is when they act with gross negligence, reckless conduct, or intentional conduct. So if they willingly or recklessly flaunt the rules and requirements set by their state or university, they'll be in trouble (some of the CSU rumors from last week come to mind). 3. It's likely that states and/or the federal government will pass an immunity law protecting any business or school from suit as long as the suit isnt alleging conduct in the three categories I stated above.

I think this is mostly about 2 things: fear of public reaction if a player dies/becomes permanently disabled and collective action by the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that the two conferences that have cancelled had the most players supporting the #wewanttoplay program that Trevor Lawerence worked on with other players.
 
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I honestly don't think there's much difference in the legal liability between those two situations. I think you're seeing these administrators putting more emphasis on the court of public opinion. Because college football players are generally the most high profile college athletes (give or take a few basketball players), a death from Covid19 would immediately turn the public against them. Most people understand the reason that students need to go back to school, but they are also going to point to something "extracurricular" like football and say "that could have been avoided."

I honestly think a lot of the "legal liability" talk from the schools, conferences, etc. is a bit of a smokescreen for a few reasons. 1. Causation is going to be extremely tough to prove in any suit involving covid. It's going to be hard to track how a player got the virus. There are too many variables or mitigating factors to ever really point the finger at the business or institution to convincingly say, "i got it here." 2. I think the only way schools or business are going to be in real danger here is when they act with gross negligence, reckless conduct, or intentional conduct. So if they willingly or recklessly flaunt the rules and requirements set by their state or university, they'll be in trouble (some of the CSU rumors from last week come to mind). 3. It's likely that states and/or the federal government will pass an immunity law protecting any business or school from suit as long as the suit isnt alleging conduct in the three categories I stated above.

I think this is mostly about 2 things: fear of public reaction if a player dies/becomes permanently disabled and collective action by the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that the two conferences that have cancelled had the most players supporting the #wewanttoplay program that Trevor Lawerence worked on with other players.

my comment is mainly about the second situation - classroom vs. football field, not the first situation.

The first situation is a classic assumption of the risk argument. Getting covid would not be deemed a general assumption of risk since it's not common to get covid from playing football. That being said, my analysis above on how hard it would be to win a suit stays true.

Yet again though, for these universities, public perception comes into play. They'll likely pony up in settlements before they ever step foot in court over a covid case, so they do have some money on the line. Just nowhere near as much as they stand to lose by not playing any games.
 
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If Nebraska pushes forward and defies the Big Ten and gets kicked out, I think I’m buying a red hat with a white N on it.
If Nebraska really bucks the BIG 10 and the conference withholds their $50 Million revenue share, someone on here should start a national go fund me for Nebraska. If they could get 50 million people to donate just $1, Nebraska would be made whole again. I would give them some money.
 
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