2020 Presidential Race

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#41,929
luthervol said:
This thread is reminding me of the heat Obama took for saying "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" when the reality ended up being only 99% of the people were able to keep their doctor.
That one percent certainly seemed significant to the right wing hype machine.
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Bull ****ing **** on 99% keeping their Drs.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Yeah. Im voting for a candidate with an actual chance. Get the F out of here with that.
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If someone insists on serving s*** sandwiches, I'm not going to vote for either of them just because one is on different bread. I'll still say no, I'd much rather have baloney and cheese at the very least.
 
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TheDeeble said:
If someone insists on serving s*** sandwiches, I'm not going to vote for either of them just because one is on different bread. I'll still say no, I'd much rather have baloney and cheese at the very least.
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Thats fine. But I'm going to base my vote off of what trumps done in the WH. I dont need him to powder my ass.
 
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utvolpj said:
And you're still voting for him?
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We had a strong economy before this and hes actually been tough on China and Iran.
Plus its been hard for him to do anything with a deadlocked house that has wasted more time on an impeachment than they have trying to accomplish anything for the American people in the last 4 years.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
We had a strong economy before this and hes actually been tough on China and Iran.
Plus its been hard for him to do anything with a deadlocked house that has wasted more time on an impeachment than they have trying to accomplish anything for the American people in the last 4 years.
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You mean the gop house he had for 2 yrs? Yeah, sounds rough
 
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utvolpj said:
The minority leader? Maybe he should have worked with the majority from his own party
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Or maybe they should've worked with him. He is in it for himself ive never argued that, but he looks at it like a business not as a politician. They weren't going to work with him either because he's not one of them.
 
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#41,940
mr.checkerboards said:
Or maybe they should've worked with him. He is in it for himself ive never argued that, but he looks at it like a business not as a politician. They weren't going to work with him either because he's not one of them.
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Why is it always someone else's fault when it comes trump? Despite his campaign claims he had no actual plans. He was unprepared for the job
 
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utvolpj said:
Why is it always someone else's fault when it comes trump? Despite his campaign claims he had no actual plans. He was unprepared for the job
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And still did better than Hillary would've.
Explain to me what hes supposed to do. 1 neither side will work with him. 2 If he signs an EO it would be tied up in courts under months of litigation.
 
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luthervol said:
He messed up on that one. He should never have allowed himself to be talked out of it.
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It should make you pause and re-think your own position on it. What was Obama told that made him change his mind? My guess a pretty scary/ugly picture was painted for him about why closing it would be unwise.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
And still did better than Hillary would've.
Explain to me what hes supposed to do. 1 neither side will work with him. 2 If he signs an EO it would be tied up in courts under months of litigation.
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Yeah we keep getting close to the bottom of the barrel but let's celebrate than we haven't hit it yet

He could have had real plans like he claimed. Decrease spending, lower the debt, replace aca, etc. His campaign was vaporware funded by lock her up chants. Seems like it still is
 
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#41,945
mr.checkerboards said:
And still did better than Hillary would've.
Explain to me what hes supposed to do. 1 neither side will work with him. 2 If he signs an EO it would be tied up in courts under months of litigation.
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If he wasn’t such a boorish asshat, he probably could have gotten congressional republicans to work with him and may not have lost the House in 2018.
 
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utvolpj said:
Yeah we keep getting close to the bottom of the barrel but let's celebrate than we haven't hit it yet

He could have had real plans like he claimed. Decrease spending, lower the debt, replace aca, etc. His campaign was vaporware funded by lock her up chants. Seems like it still is
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And Hillary's was spearheaded by Trumps tax returns. Neither ran on much of a platform, same as this time. So I will go with the lesser of the two evils.
 
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