Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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mrorange211 said:
this is ultimately what keeps me thinking there might be a season at this point
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If Greg Sankey finds a way to play this season or at the very least attempts to play despite pressure from other conferences, he gets back all the goodwill that he has lost and goes down as the greatest SEC commissioner in my eyes.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Eh, all these conferences know it’s a pipe-dream at this point. The Big 10 is offering what should have been worked out months ago; a uniform plan the entire FBS should follow.

Spring is the best option now. And the sooner that’s realized and planned for, the better off we’ll be when we get there.
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How do you know Spring will be any better? Who is to say that in a month's time it doesn't plunge here? Its already falling.
 
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gordonr24 said:
Honest opinion is that the SEC won’t give a damn what the other conferences decide. They’ll do what’s best for themselves.
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Which means the fall of the NCAA and I’m good with that. No way the SEC acts unilaterally unless the system is abolished. I’m good with that. Imagine the SEC and Big 12 start their own league along with ACC.
 
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Orange Studs said:
How do you know Spring will be any better? Who is to say that in a month's time it doesn't plunge here? Its already falling.
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Agreed. Or maybe Kingston just thinks everyone will have learned to live with the risk by then. I’m not optimistic, though; I thought that was going to happen by early June.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I don't pay to see "these" athletes. I pay to see football, or basketball, or baseball...or whatever the hell else I want to pay to see. I'm the one paying...I should be the one that has the most say in who gets what.

If fans stop watching, the other money (tv revenue..etc...etc) goes away too. The fans, not the athletes are what drive any sport.
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While maybe true for you, that is just an inaccurate description of how it works. Vast majority of fan spending is related to top level players.
 
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gordonr24 said:
If Greg Sankey finds a way to play this season or at the very least attempts to play despite pressure from other conferences, he gets back all the goodwill that he has lost and goes down as the greatest SEC commissioner in my eyes.
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He’s part of the problem and will concede. If he jumps away from the NCAA and starts a new association, I might change my mind. His handling of the new season illustrates why he won’t. Protecting his highest ranked teams by preseason ranks to solidify playoff appearances indicates his lack of balls.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Which means the fall of the NCAA and I’m good with that. No way the SEC acts unilaterally unless the system is abolished. I’m good with that. Imagine the SEC and Big 12 start their own league along with ACC.
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I don’t think the NCAA has much influence in football. They may set recruiting regulations and policies, but college football playoff is a separate 501(c)(3) organization that supports education. NCAA really only has supreme influence in basketball.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Not really. Its going to create unrealistic expectations.
It will either create a system where schools basically bid for recruits.
Or it will create a minor league system where kids skip school thinking they are good enough to make it to the league, and when they are not they aren't going to havw an education or opportunities to fall back on as if they had gone to school.
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It's been the NCAA fighting tooth and nail to keep Amateurism a thing all these years. As soon as the P5 leave the NCAA, yes it will be a race to paying the most.
 
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jackcrevol said:
Of bad parenting, or perhaps narcissism. None of those are new things.

Yes, humanity. Human beings. Dont let your experience with kids ruin your outlook.
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Last thing I'm gonna say. I have GREAT relationships with players and students. I retired from coaching in one state and started over in another to get to keep working with kids. My opinion is MY opinion based on MY concern for the long term effects this and other issues have on kids. You don't agree, don't agree That's fine. Made my argument.
 
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Leeleesteeth said:
Last thing I'm gonna say. I have GREAT relationships with players and students. I retired from coaching in one state and started over in another to get to keep working with kids. My opinion is MY opinion based on MY concern for the long term effects this and other issues have on kids. You don't agree, don't agree That's fine. Made my argument.
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VolsDoc81TX said:
I wonder what President Kennedy would think.
If JFK’s speech with “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” was given today, he would be vilified on social media and no way last as President.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

Heck, my generation was raised with the statement that you can be whatever you want to be if you work hard enough for it. One of the best motivators for me was all the people who said that I wasn’t smart enough to be a doctor. Every time that I would start to get overwhelmed or think it was too difficult for me, the things that those people said would echo in my mind. All the motivation I needed. I truly enjoyed proving them wrong. I was even a little petty, I sent them thank you letters when I became a clinical teaching professor at a top 10 ranked med school. I told them without their encouragement that I wasn’t good enough or smart enough that I wouldn’t be where I was...🤠

What I see now, ( I work with a lot of young people between Scouts, sports, and a disabled children’s camp) is if at first I don’t succeed, I will just go do something else. Or call my parents to get them to do it for me...

Where I don’t see it is with my daughter’s HS dance/drill team and her competitive dance studio. The drill team requires that they try out every year. Heck, they have to try out for each and every dance. My daughter didn’t make the cut on one dance. Rather than throwing in the towel, she admitted that she didn’t bring her best and swore that would never happen again.

I know, tl;dr.

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Oh man - I wish I had sent letters to the adults who doubted me along the way. I love that. What’s annoying is that the handful who were so negative were primarily my middle school and high school teachers/coaches. Those are kids’ formative years. How miserable of a person do you have to be to be such a negative influence on kids?

At the same time, I had great parents and some fantastic teachers/coaches who praised me when it was warranted and who made it clear when I could do better.

They made me who I am today, and they helped cultivate the drive to be better each and every day.

Praying my wife and I cultivate the same in our kids.
 
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