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#76,952
#76,952
GAVol said:
You think the spread is that big? He’s on an 8 year deal, so really the Braves just paid him sooner than they had to and bought out 3 Free Agent years on the back end. The Braves definitely win, but he’s still 30 at the end with the ability to go get a mega deal.
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The Braves bought out four FA years. Betts has been a 42 WAR player over six years. Let’s just say Acuna becomes one of three best players in baseball and averages 7 WAR over the next five years (so 35 WAR) and his best season would be 2024 (when he was scheduled to become a FA)

Betts just got $365M. Acuna will get $123M over the next nine years (including this one) and it is a 10/$124M contract. Acuna would have gone into his age 27 season as a FA. Now Acuna is scheduled to go into his age 31 season as a FA. Let’s say he is really good, and he gets an 8 year/$160M contract (and that is aggressive at 31 years old). So that’s $284M.

He would have had four arbitration years. Considering how aggressive arbitration is becoming, I’d say he would estimate to make $65M (Betts was scheduled to make $27M this year).

Assuming COVID goes away and with the new postseason money and general inflation (and Trout/Mahomes crossing the $400M) mark, I don’t think it’s crazy to suggest Acuna could get (being so young) 12 years/$400M.

You take his $400M and his arb years...

Acuna potential deal: $465M
Acuna current deal plus estimate $160M: $284M
 
#76,956
#76,956
That’s another thing I’ve been curious about over then years.... why do our guys lose velo so often? Yet they leave and magically find it. Wouldn’t be surprised if Julio is 92-94 again
 
#76,963
#76,963
Just feels like we leave a lot on the table development wise as opposed to a team like the cardinals that always get production out of 1 or 2 no name guys a year.
 
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#76,965
AV_12 said:
Yeah for sure
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There does seem to be a control issue among our pitchers. Now part of that is the kind of guys they’ve drafted/taken chances on. But I mean other than Fried (and I don’t count Soroka since he has done it since day 1) nobody has developed consistent location. And even still Fried can miss at times. It’s been a problem for a few years.
 
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#76,968
AV_12 said:
Just feels like we leave a lot on the table development wise as opposed to a team like the cardinals that always get production out of 1 or 2 no name guys a year.
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The Cards/Dodgers also pour a ton of money into development of minor league guys and scouting. The Braves have spent money but not truly allocated the proper resources. Now that might change since AA got named President and spent two years with LA. We will see.
 
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#76,972
TBrown said:
Shame frediot extended him to get a meaningless shutout win. You must be misremembering a legendary Braves thread night.
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I mean that didn’t help and I remember that, but he had arm problems for the rest of his career. His arm was a ticking time bomb. It wasn’t going to last.

(Or you could argue that Medlen, Hanson, Jurrjens, Vizcaino and Beachy all had arm troubles under the organization and it was an organizational problem)
 
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#76,973
zjcvols said:
I mean that didn’t help and I remember that, but he had arm problems for the rest of his career. His arm was a ticking time bomb. It wasn’t going to last.

(Or you could argue that Medlen, Hanson, Jurrjens, Vizcaino and Beachy all had arm troubles under the organization and it was an organizational problem)
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+Venters
 
#76,974
#76,974
Jurrjens age 22-23 season: 403 innings
Hanson age 22-23 season: 397 innings

Not great!
 
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#76,975
AV_12 said:
That’s another thing I’ve been curious about over then years.... why do our guys lose velo so often? Yet they leave and magically find it. Wouldn’t be surprised if Julio is 92-94 again
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Probably because Julio had over 633 MLB innings on his arm before turning 25.
 
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