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kiddiedoc said:
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So, in other words, if they had taken care of their elderly, they would actually have had a LOWER death rate than the U.S. I have a physician friend with family there who visits frequently, and he assures me that they do almost nothing to take care of their aging population. Hardly any vents. It's very easy to see why so many LTCF patients perished.

Oh, and it looks like they have reached herd immunity.
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Comparing the USA to small, population-sparse, culturally and ethnically homogeneous Scandinavian countries makes no sense. But since it has practically been made it into a fetish by liberals over the last 30 years, it is at least funny to watch the boomerang come back.

I'd also encourage all countries to wait until this is over before dancing a jig on the USA's failure. You haven't beaten this until every country has and it will come back at too fast you like said boomerang.
 
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Rifleman said:
Comparing the USA to small, population-sparse, culturally and ethnically homogeneous Scandinavian countries makes no sense. But since it has practically been made it into a fetish by liberals over the last 30 years, it is at least funny to watch the boomerang come back.

I'd also encourage all countries to wait until this is over before dancing a jig on the USA's failure. You haven't beaten this until every country has and it will come back at too fast you like said boomerang.
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How about compare it to a Massachusetts or something.
 
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#66,131
allvol123 said:
What metrics? The entire population of Vermont doesnt meet the population of Stockholm.
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If you just look at total population, you are going to arrive quickly at some brain dead conclusions about pandemic resistance. Montana and Rhode Island have roughly the same population for instance, but they are of course nothing alike.

Sweden and Vermont are the same in population density, which is where you want to focus first for a comparison.
 
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#66,132
Rifleman said:
If you just look at total population, you are going to arrive quickly at some brain dead conclusions about pandemic resistance. Montana and Rhode Island have roughly the same population for instance, but they are of course nothing alike.

Sweden and Vermont are the same in population density, which is where you want to focus first for a comparison.
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Stockholm has a million people on 80 square miles.

Vermont has 600,000 in 9,000 square miles. The biggest town has 50,000.
 
#66,133
#66,133
kiddiedoc said:
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So, in other words, if they had taken care of their elderly, they would actually have had a LOWER death rate than the U.S. I have a physician friend with family there who visits frequently, and he assures me that they do almost nothing to take care of their aging population. Hardly any vents. It's very easy to see why so many LTCF patients perished.

Oh, and it looks like they have reached herd immunity.
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You sure about that, Doc?

Bloomberg sweden-says-latest-covid-immunity-not-enough-to-protect-citizens
 
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#66,134
allvol123 said:
Stockholm has a million people on 80 square miles.

Vermont has 600,000 in 9,000 square miles. The biggest town has 50,000.
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So the statistics presented have been on Sweden as a whole, not just Stockholm. Excluding the mostly rural part of the nation would make a far better comparison, since the rates are very low everywhere that few people live in close proximity. What are the per capita stats of Boston and Stockholm?
 
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Mick said:
Yes, When are you going to show the graph that supports your claim that Sweden has herd immunity? Your graph conveniently doesn't show what you claim.

You either can't read or FOS.
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Unless antibody testing a large enough sample weekly, wouldn't positives / fatalities be the way to infer immunity?
 
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McDad said:
How would you want it quantified?
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The last I checked, herd immunity would require 70% of the population would have to recover from covid absent a vaccine and studies show the antibodies don't last that long.

We can quantify it by using the antibody test data represented as a percent of the population.
 
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Mick said:
The last I checked, herd immunity would require 70% of the population would have to recover from covid absent a vaccine and studies show the antibodies don't last that long.

We can quantify it by using the antibody test data represented as a percent of the population.
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I understand different percentages are needed with different pathogens to achieve herd immunity.

If the antibodies don't last long, how are antibody positives per 100 people helpful? You lost me there.
 
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