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Have you noticed the pro maskers here are also left leaning? Libs living life scared as usual.
No dude. I just want to look out for my fellow man. I’ve been doing my part for almost 4 months and it’s been for nothing because y’all don’t care. Congrats on delaying our freedom.
 
Lol. Have to make it political. Why?

So sick of it being political. It’s decency at this point and some have lost it. I, and others, couldn’t help that a cop murdered someone, and it sparked a movement.

I have been to church, and my conservative church of 3500-4000 people is having services of 40 people. So many others believe the same thing.
No, that's the point. There is so much corruption, so many lies and deceitful practices by our medical professionals and politicians that I do not believe anything they say. It is perfectly fine to yell and protest, but don't sing in church. it is fine to gather in pride parades, but do not gather anywhere else. It is perfectly okay to gather for BLM, but do not play sports, go to school, or to church, and don't you dare sing.

The death rate is overinflated, the infection rate is overinflated, one set of medical professionals say wear a mask, another set says masks do nothing. The Who is corrupt, the CDC has been wrong, Fauci has contradicted himself more times than we can count, and the media lies through their teeth and may be the most corrupt institution in America. All we can look at is the data, and in my view, the data supports going back to school, playing sports, and ending lockdowns while trying our best to protect the most vulnerable.
 
No, that's the point. There is so much corruption, so many lies and deceitful practices by our medical professionals and politicians that I do not believe anything they say. It is perfectly fine to yell and protest, but don't sing in church. it is fine to gather in pride parades, but do not gather anywhere else. It is perfectly okay to gather for BLM, but do not play sports, go to school, or to church, and don't you dare sing.

The death rate is overinflated, the infection rate is overinflated, one set of medical professionals say wear a mask, another set says masks do nothing. The Who is corrupt, the CDC has been wrong, Fauci has contradicted himself more times than we can count. All we can look at is the data, and in my view, the data supports going back to school, playing sports, and ending lockdowns while trying our best to protect the most vulnerable.

The other problem is that our leadership has failed since April. They were at a loss on how to handle it and have led us blind into a dark tunnel.

We are a selfish country, and that has nothing to do with liberties. Football isn’t a constitutional right. We’ve lost all decency around these parts in more ways than one.
 
It’s amazing how selective Covid is. If you go to a football game, you hate people and you’re not a Christian. You might kill grandma!

But covid knows when people are protesting and, because it’s such a good cause, it stays away. Thank you medical professionals
Protests spread it too just like any large gathering would.
 
The other problem is that our leadership has failed since April. They were at a loss on how to handle it and have led us blind into a dark tunnel.

We are a selfish country, and that has nothing to do with liberties. Football isn’t a constitutional right. We’ve lost all decency around these parts in more ways than one.
Lot more at stake than just football
 
Another co-worker sent home with covid yesterday (guy in his 20s with mild symptoms) and more calling out in Brunswick at their Publix ALL the time. Glynn county GA is a hot bed right now. Saw that Publix is requiring customers to wear masks starting next week too
 
Another co-worker sent home with covid yesterday (guy in his 20s with mild symptoms) and more calling out in Brunswick at their Publix ALL the time. Glynn county GA is a hot bed right now. Saw that Publix is requiring customers to wear masks starting next week too
Stay safe, man. We’ve got it bad in my SE GA county too.
 
This is a status of hospital resource utilization for Tennessee as of yesterday. Obviously this is for the whole state and doesn't address anyone particular area of the state where resources might be in short supply.

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Here is some additional data on the present hospital resource use here in Tennessee. As of yesterday there were 985 patients in Tennessee hospitals due to Covid-19. There were 9,210 patients in Tennessee hospitals yesterday for reasons other than Covid-19.

The survival rate for hospitalizations so far in Tennessee for Covid-19 patients is 77%. In New York the survival rate for Covid-19 hospitalizations was 72% and in Mississippi it’s presently at 64%. This suggests that of the Covid-19 patient load on Tennessee hospitals as of yesterday around 227 will not recover.

The average hospital stay right now on a national basis is reported at 10.7 days for survivors and 13.7 days for non-survivors. Obviously, there are outliers on either side of those averages. We had 65 new Covid-19 patients admitted to Tennessee hospitals as reported today. Statistically speaking, 15 of those 65 are unlikely to recover.
 
What if I contract the virus at work and don’t know it? What if I contract it when I’m out to eat and don’t know it? Or at church? Or at the store! Oh no!

The only way to avoid the possibility of contracting a virus which will have no symptoms that I could spread to others would be to lock myself in the house and never leave! I guess that’s the only option or else I don’t love people
You are not the master of bass. You are the Hyperbole master.
 
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The economy is not shutdown. I’m not advocating for it either. The NASDAQ hit its all time high. But things like sports can be a problem to navigate.
Just coz a billionaire got a bigger yacht doesn’t mean it benefits the American people. The middle class is gasping for air and 30 percent of small businesses shut down. Don’t let them fool you. If a company’s stock increases, what does that do for you?
 
So I can show you facts, people that we know who died of other causes, but were written down as covid deaths, including a dude who died in a motorcycle crash! And the statements that people are being counted who died "with" and not "from," and all you have is "there were probably others who died that weren't counted?"

I think it is highly likely the death number is way higher when we're counting died "with" and not from. On top of this, the data that we currently have would support this.


The chances of people dying from this who are under the age of 65 is about the same as the flu. That is fact. Healthy people under the age of 45 dying from this is as rare as GA winning a national championship. So yes, we can believe that the numbers are inflated.

Further, the numbers are also inflated because of what the democratic governors did in the beginning. They sent covid positive patients into nursing homes. How many people died as a result of this? If they do not send those patients into nursing homes, the death count would be even lower.


You are showing anecdotal news stories of a few cases which were incorrectly categorized. I freely admit there is a small number of COVID deaths that are incorrectly labeled. But, the overwhelming majority of cases of people dying from COVID is because people are dying from COVID. And yes, there is a lot of evidence that the COVID deaths are appropriate or are undercounted (1).

Re: deaths "from" vs "with", you just have to understand how deaths are tallied in the US. People with COVID die from respiratory failure, MIs, renal failure, strokes, arrhythmias, PEs, etc. If someone is hospitalized with COVID and is intubated and dies from a massive PE, that counts as a COVID-related death. Similar to how deaths because of something like pancreatic cancer.

1. Estimation of Excess Deaths From COVID-19 in the United States, March to May 2020
 
This is a status of hospital resource utilization for Tennessee as of yesterday. Obviously this is for the whole state and doesn't address anyone particular area of the state where resources might be in short supply.

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Here is some additional data on the present hospital resource use here in Tennessee. As of yesterday there were 985 patients in Tennessee hospitals due to Covid-19. There were 9,210 patients in Tennessee hospitals yesterday for reasons other than Covid-19.

The survival rate for hospitalizations so far in Tennessee for Covid-19 patients is 77%. In New York the survival rate for Covid-19 hospitalizations was 72% and in Mississippi it’s presently at 64%. This suggests that of the Covid-19 patient load on Tennessee hospitals as of yesterday around 227 will not recover.

The average hospital stay right now on a national basis is reported at 10.7 days for survivors and 13.7 days for non-survivors. Obviously, there are outliers on either side of those averages. We had 65 new Covid-19 patients admitted to Tennessee hospitals as reported today. Statistically speaking, 15 of those 65 are unlikely to recover.

Another downstream effect is how long these people stay in hospitals. Even people who recover just fine but need to go to a SNF have to test negative, be in the hospital for 10+ days. It eats beds up like crazy.
 
Right there with you. If there were two sides it’d be 1.People with empathy and 2. People who don’t give a **** about you

Why does it have to be that just because people disagree with you it means they don't care about people or they have no compassion for others? Why can't it just be that they don't think what's best for all is what you think is best for all? You know, this really is the tactic used by a certain political party and their supporters.
 
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