2020 Presidential Race

You good with voting for a guy that is scared to leave his basement and doesn't have the energy to campaign?
No. Which is why I am not voting for Biden. And my issues with Trump are why I will also not be voting for him.

It's not an either or scenario that only one can suck and not be worth the office. They both prove it, almost daily, that neither does.
 
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No. Which is why I am not voting for Biden. And my issues with Trump are why I will also not be voting for him.

It's not an either or scenario that only one can suck and not be worth the office. They both prove it, almost daily, that neither does.
Voting for West ?
 
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Voting for West ?
Havent looked into West.

Jorgenson is closest but she is bit too much shut everything down without looking at the fallout imo. Even though I like the idea of cut backs I wont accept a cure that is worse than the problem.
 
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No. Which is why I am not voting for Biden. And my issues with Trump are why I will also not be voting for him.

It's not an either or scenario that only one can suck and not be worth the office. They both prove it, almost daily, that neither does.
Either Trump or O'Biden will be President (pending O'Biden makes it that long) so not voting or voting 3rd party is pointless but you certainly have that right.
 
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Either Trump or O'Biden will be President (pending O'Biden makes it that long) so not voting or voting 3rd party is pointless but you certainly have that right.
Not pointless at all. It's my vote. The only waste is if you arent voting for someone you actually believe in.

Your favorite cheese is cheddar, when asked what you want you say Brie because it's more popular. Waste of cheese imo.

The only way you actually get what you want is to vote for it. Otherwise you are hoping the Brie turns out to be cheddar in disguise just because its popular and you may like some it better than gouda.
 
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Not pointless at all. It's my vote. The only waste is if you arent voting for someone you actually believe in.

Your favorite cheese is cheddar, when asked what you want you say Brie because it's more popular. Waste of cheese imo.

The only way you actually get what you want is to vote for it. Otherwise you are hoping the Brie turns out to be cheddar in disguise just because its popular and you may like some it better than gouda.
President Trump has done things I disagree with but in all I do believe in him and done a lot of really good things. I want to and will be voting for him in November.

I assume you can concede the person who you end up voting for has 0% chance to win
 
President Trump has done things I disagree with but in all I do believe in him and done a lot of really good things. I want to and will be voting for him in November.

I assume you can concede the person who you end up voting for has 0% chance to win
I am fine with people voting for who they actually want to support. If its Trump, fine. If its Biden, fine. If you dont support either I would expect you not to vote for either.

I am fine with not winning. Focusing solely on winning is how we got to this point. Either side should be running away with this election. Its disgusting that someone isnt with all the ineptitude displayed on both sides.

The quality of the competition and the final results say more about a candidate than any pole or opinion could.

Put another way, if Biden is as bad as you think and Trump is as good as you think, why is this close? If you think Biden is the good choice and Trump is a joke why the concern?

It's because they both are garbage.
 
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To me this would be encouraging if I’m a Trumpist.

NC, AZ, FL aside, if Hillary was up 7 at this point in MI and WI, I’m not sure that Biden being up 8 or 9 is really significant.
It’s not good news at all. Trump’s campaign is setting money on fire playing defense in states it shouldn’t have to while Biden is picking and chosing which states to attacks. Biden can go 1 for 4 with toss up states can still win the Electoral College.
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I don’t have to ask Bernie I know how product unions work. Not teachers unions , not government unions . People that actually make a product .

Obama won 60% union workers in 2012. Biden won 55% of Michigan UAW workers in the primaries. Trump’s efforts and threats against the UAW during its strike this year won’t help him at all.
 
Obama won 60% union workers in 2012. Biden won 55% of Michigan UAW workers in the primaries. Trump’s efforts and threats against the UAW during its strike this year won’t help him at all.

This isn’t Obama , Biden won a democrat primary. Let’s wait and see how it goes .
 
There is only one certainty in this entire election, and it is this: Biden hates this country.
I usually ignore stupid things like this... but since I've never seen you on here before, I am curious: what makes you so certain that someone who has already served 8 years as the Vice President of the United States "hates" it?
 
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