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Also, Covid hit close to home this week. My friends wife tested positive this week, and they were at our pool last week. Only reason they got tested was bc they were at a bbq the eve before for a friend that was leaving for deployment. He tested positive upon arriving in Texas, but felt fine, no symptoms.
Back to my friends wife, she’s positive, but they’re 2 kids and he tested negative?!?
Our friend on deployment that tested positive, the rest of his family tested negative.
If this “virus” is spread so easily...how can a husband and wife doing adult things not spread it to one another?!?! Serious question, I’d like to know.
 
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One of the biggest mistakes the Govt made early on was telling people to not wear masks. Instead of being honest and acknowledging that they were telling people that to stop mass buying of PPE and allowing medical professionals first dibs, they tried to act like they weren't effective. People can't stand to be told one thing, and then told the opposite. Our leaders have messed up basically every way you can think of, and they just keep reaping what they've sown.

Schools are a great example of this. In retrospect, we probably closed too soon, as the virus wasn't bad enough in most areas. Now we have school systems trying to open up with probably 10x to even 100x more cases than in March. Now, logical people are screaming because that doesn't make any sense. We really should be using the methods we used in the Spring now, and dealt with it differently back in the Spring. Unfortunately, we were all scared, trying to deal with an unprecedented virus scare. Now, we're hamstrung because as a country, and individuals, we could really only survive one large scale shutdown, and that's already happened. It's a cluster, plain and simple.
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
Also, Covid hit close to home this week. My friends wife tested positive this week, and they were at our pool last week. Only reason they got tested was bc they were at a bbq the eve before for a friend that was leaving for deployment. He tested positive upon arriving in Texas, but felt fine, no symptoms.
Back to my friends wife, she’s positive, but they’re 2 kids and he tested negative?!?
Our friend on deployment that tested positive, the rest of his family tested negative.
If this “virus” is spread so easily...how can a husband and wife doing adult things not spread it to one another?!?! Serious question, I’d like to know.
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Just like some people don’t get the flu even though someone they know and have been in close contact with had it....
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
You said my response was cookie cutter and laughable. If that does not deserve a response I guess you truly believe your thoughts are better than everyone else’s. I guess you can throw out insults but someone else can’t. Makes sense. And you too!
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No, it is a misinterpretation, or I didn't obviously give enough clarity, seriously, that's why I just put the first sentence in the quote, and my response was a generalization of a response to the simple reality of humans and different reactions to everything on this planet, and that no medical one stop solution exists......


But, hey, you keep insulting, I'll try and carry on a dialogue.......so maybe instead of reacting a like a little girl which seems impossible today with damn near everyone, ask or respond to talk and not REACT........and insult......carry on guy.
 
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hotcypress said:
One of the biggest mistakes the Govt made early on was telling people to not wear masks. Instead of being honest and acknowledging that they were telling people that to stop mass buying of PPE and allowing medical professionals first dibs, they tried to act like they weren't effective. People can't stand to be told one thing, and then told the opposite. Our leaders have messed up basically every way you can think of, and they just keep reaping what they've sown.

Schools are a great example of this. In retrospect, we probably closed too soon, as the virus wasn't bad enough in most areas. Now we have school systems trying to open up with probably 10x to even 100x more cases than in March. Now, logical people are screaming because that doesn't make any sense. We really should be using the methods we used in the Spring now, and dealt with it differently back in the Spring. Unfortunately, we were all scared, trying to deal with an unprecedented virus scare. Now, we're hamstrung because as a country, and individuals, we could really only survive one large scale shutdown, and that's already happened. It's a cluster, plain and simple.
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The inconsistency overall has been a disaster. The media is also to blame. Ignoring COVID for 2-3 weeks during the peak of the protests/riots and then suddenly pivoting right back to it made a ton of people believe it's a media-created hoax, something that's blown way out of proportion, or just something they don't need to care about anymore.

I get that the virus didn't disappear during the protests, but the media's near silence on it AND the laughably stupid politically correct messaging from some politicians and health officials saying that protesting was "worth the risk" just pissed people off (not to mention the ludicrous claim that protesting helped STOP the virus).

Anyone pointing fingers solely at the federal and state governments should look at the media even more, because they are the ones who editorialize the messages.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
My response would be that people generally don’t get tested for viruses when they’re asymptomatic. The coronavirus pandemic has been a totally different creature. If you have no flu symptoms would you be tested for it? Of course not.

I think an interesting medical study would be to test large amounts of essentially asymptomatic people who have been exposed to the influenza virus next year or even this coming year during flu season. It might put a lot of this in the perspective. I cannot think of a time when so many people of been tested for something regardless of symptoms.
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I'd be interested in seeing that study. Then we can freak out even more about diseases
 
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Aesius said:
The inconsistency overall has been a disaster. The media is also to blame. Ignoring COVID for 2-3 weeks during the peak of the protests/riots and then suddenly pivoting right back to it made a ton of people believe it's a media-created hoax, something that's blown way out of proportion, or just something they don't need to care about anymore.

I get that the virus didn't disappear during the protests, but the media's near silence on it AND the laughably stupid politically correct messaging from some politicians and health officials saying that protesting was "worth the risk" just pissed people off (not to mention the ludicrous claim that protesting helped STOP the virus).

Anyone pointing fingers solely at the federal and state governments should look at the media even more, because they are the ones who editorialize the messages.
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I don't disagree that the media has had a hand in all of the inconsistency, but they don't owe the same duty to me that state and federal governments do. The individuals making decisions are supposed to use primary sources and primary information to make their decisions. They aren't supposed to rely on media reports. Different entities within the media may be to blame for misinformation used by individuals to do dumb things like go to covid parties or eat in restaurants without masks. However, you can't blame the media for the government's overall incompetence, and that incompetence goes across the political aisles.
 
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pierce60 said:
Thinking of purchasing a pellet grill/smoker. Since I've never gotten one before I don't want to dump a lot of money on a Traeger. Any other advice or recommendations on a middle of the road, newbie grill/smoker?
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I have a masterbuilt electric smoker with a cold smoker attachment. Generates loads of smoke and lasts for a few hours. Easy cleanup easy to maintain. Everyone has their favorite type of smoker, but an electric one was good for a beginner like me when I got one years ago.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
My response would be that people generally don’t get tested for viruses when they’re asymptomatic. The coronavirus pandemic has been a totally different creature. If you have no flu symptoms would you be tested for it? Of course not.

I think an interesting medical study would be to test large amounts of essentially asymptomatic people who have been exposed to the influenza virus next year or even this coming year during flu season. It might put a lot of this in the perspective. I cannot think of a time when so many people of been tested for something regardless of symptoms.
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The other part is to document how many in those tests got the flu shot. I'm telling you the flu numbers are skewed because we don't keep with how many adults actually get the vaccine or die without the vaccine.
 
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Aesius said:
The inconsistency overall has been a disaster. The media is also to blame. Ignoring COVID for 2-3 weeks during the peak of the protests/riots and then suddenly pivoting right back to it made a ton of people believe it's a media-created hoax, something that's blown way out of proportion, or just something they don't need to care about anymore.

I get that the virus didn't disappear during the protests, but the media's near silence on it AND the laughably stupid politically correct messaging from some politicians and health officials saying that protesting was "worth the risk" just pissed people off (not to mention the ludicrous claim that protesting helped STOP the virus).

Anyone pointing fingers solely at the federal and state governments should look at the media even more, because they are the ones who editorialize the messages.
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I agree with the bolded, and I agree the media doesn't help. The problem is that it was a once in a lifetime type of deal (at least for me), and I don't think our government and health officials knew exactly what to do. They were leading us blind in a dark tunnel. That's why it is important to learn from this.
 
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WebbCobb said:
Honest question but isn’t the mortality rate going down because increased testing is identifying more cases with mild or no symptoms? Previously, identified cases were predominantly those with severe symptoms, who are much more likely to die than the former group. Maybe I’m wrong, but that makes sense to me
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This and the fact that the majority of the new cases are in the 15-34 year age group. Also, deaths lag about a month from the report of a positive test result. Deaths are trending up in Florida. But we are NOWHERE NEAR where NYC was at 1000 deaths a day at the worst. We have edged up into the 110+ for a few days now.
What has people worried (Miami mayors) is that our 8 hospitals have now reached 106% capacity and they are under staffed because of the loss of income from the pause in non-elective surgeries. We converted the convention center to a triage hospital but they don't have it staffed.
Hopefully the death rate will stay low. They are saying we could go back to shelter-in-place in Miami if our positivity rate and hospitalization rate stay so high.
Fingers crossed y'all! (and masks on, maskholes!)
 
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CreiveHallVol said:
This and the fact that the majority of the new cases are in the 15-34 year age group. Also, deaths lag about a month from the report of a positive test result. Deaths are trending up in Florida. But we are NOWHERE NEAR where NYC was at 1000 deaths a day at the worst. We have edged up into the 110+ for a few days now.
What has people worried (Miami mayors) is that our 8 hospitals have now reached 106% capacity and they are under staffed because of the loss of income from the pause in non-elective surgeries. We converted the convention center to a triage hospital but they don't have it staffed.
Hopefully the death rate will stay low. They are saying we could go back to shelter-in-place in Miami if our positivity rate and hospitalization rate stay so high.
Fingers crossed y'all! (and masks on, maskholes!)
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I'm in Arizona, and the death rate is spiking here after a few weeks of really high infection rates. We've gone from ~40 deaths a day to ~90. It is incredibly disheartening, and there isn't really an end in sight. We have sort of reached a plateau in new cases, but Arizona losing 100 people a day to this thing is horrific and unsustainable. And that's without the snowbirds who flew North for the summer.

I don't know how we are doing in the fatality rate per infected person. I would expect it to be lower than it was at the start, but I haven't found an easy source for it.
 
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Catbone said:
All they had to do is have all the big time football coaches make a video saying

DO YOU WANT COLLEGE FOOTBALL THIS YEAR? IT WON'T HAPPEN UNLESS YOU WEAR A MASK!

I bet that would've convinced a lot of people
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Take this, wear that, inject something. Don’t work, don’t get too close, stay home. Don’t think. Focus only on the biological part of living, and we will give you sportsball.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
The microchip that size actually just siphons electricity from the body that it’s in...lots of chemical electicity in the human body that can be diverted for their nefarious equipment...
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Not to do anything useful like transmission. GPS would need a legit battery. Sounds painful and lethal if battery breaks open
 
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drvenner said:
You got any of these you can cite?
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This is the most recent thing I've seen. Obviously there were older ones saying similar out of Asia awhile back:
Covid-19 immunity from antibodies may last only months, UK study suggests - CNN

Tennessee Golfer said:
If antibodies are short term what is the point of a vaccine?
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2 hopeful possibilities:

1) create a vaccine with a stronger response. They've seen that responses vary. If we can incite the stronger type of response or one even longer lasting than the virus itself...that is one option.

2) regular vaccines

We have to try something of course, otherwise we are stuck in an infinite loop of people getting this thing, their lungs being scarred and other side effects, possible hospitalization or death, etc.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
It’s actually literally around 45% of Americans that get their news from Facebook which is pretty wild.
Also, interesting Facebook fact - only 10% of Facebook users are from the US and Canada. Asian-Pacific users make up 43% of Facebook’s unique monthly users
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Russian farm troll accounts imo

But if we are talking getting info from Facebook...it would be 40 and older. The Olds use Facebook...it is like their new way to pass chainmail around to each other.

40 to 20, the Mids, get info from twitter.

20 and below, the Youngs, hmm...tiktok? Or probably something still a secret to the Olds.
 
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