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Gator fans would def. agree with you on that count as would a lot of other SEC fans that followed teams conference-wide that year. It's a dang shame how it turned out because there's no doubt in my mind that we (or UF) could've beaten Miami and that Miami team was damn good. But TBH, the way that game happened tacked on to the end of the year because of 9/11 it felt like a post-season win and we couldn't shake the high of beating a hated rival in an unexpected way fast enough. We thought that was it and were expecting to move on to the BCS matchup with Miami. I can't blame them given the circumstances but I don't think our players gave one thought to LSU and LSU made them pay. If ever there was a textbook example of what can happen to a good, possibly great, team if they lose focus/overlook an opponent that SEC title game is it. Ironically, we were the Miami of old and LSU was the Sugarvols -- LSU had no business winning that game and if it were played 100 times we'd likely have won 99 of them but they were focused and brought it and we didn't.

This is a good post, so this isn’t a criticism of you, but one day Vol fans are going to have to let this game go. It was 20 years ago and is not why we are where we are now. It sucks, but losing to Alabama and ND in 1990 when we had a shot at a national title also sucked. So did losing to terrible South Carolina and Arkansas teams in 1992 when we had a shot at the inaugural SEC championship game. So did choking in the second half of the 1995 Florida game when we could have played for a national title. So did losing to Arkansas in 1999 when we could’ve played for another national title. It happens.
 
They are saying the antibodies do not stay in your system long enough for Herd Immunity. Also, if that’s true I don’t understand how a vaccine would work considering it does the same thing as herd immunity. Just without you actually having to come in contact with the virus.

If the NFL gets that coronavirus helmet up and running I think you will see college football shift to that helmet.
My thought re: vaccine is we'd need 2-4 shots a year (if that remains true for vaccines). At the least, we'd get use to both Fall and Spring vaccines rather than just the usual October/November vaccine timeframe.
 
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This is a good post, so this isn’t a criticism of you, but one day Vol fans are going to have to let this game go. It was 20 years ago and is not why we are where we are now. It sucks, but losing to Alabama and ND in 1990 when we had a shot at a national title also sucked. So did losing to terrible South Carolina and Arkansas teams in 1992 when we had a shot at the inaugural SEC championship game. So did choking in the second half of the 1995 Florida game when we could have played for a national title. So did losing to Arkansas in 1999 when we could’ve played for another national title. It happens.

Oh no, I agree with you. I don't think this game 'broke us' at all. I've never understood that theory. We still had good teams after that one. While we had issues that needed to be fixed and there's no doubt that we were starting to get very inconsistent, our problems started when we fired Fulmer and replaced him with Kiffin. Whether it was time for Fulmer to hang it up or not, isn't really something I want to argue because regardless of your thoughts on that we would've been better off had we hired that firing and hiring process better. Replacing the winningest active coach with a child who'd been fired by the Raiders was not good leadership on our part nor was it wise and the bad decisions just kept coming after that.
 
My thought re: vaccine is we'd need 2-4 shots a year (if that remains true for vaccines). At the least, we'd get use to both Fall and Spring vaccines rather than just the usual October/November vaccine timeframe.
Yes but what would that do to your system...... would it be harmful? Could it cause autism? At some point it’s like are you willing to just take your chances? You know like not getting a flu vaccine....
 
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Yes but what would that do to your system...... would it be harmful? Could it cause autism? At some point it’s like are you willing to just take your chances? You know like not getting a flu vaccine....
No idea... let's hope a vaccine keeps antibodies longer or the reported 2-3 month antibody is not accurate. We are royally screwed otherwise...
 
Ahhhh... but which numbers? Are all the numbers even being counted the same way? ...the same way as two months ago? This is where the ethics of journalism, science, the economy, and politics hits the fan.

We know some states like Texas have officially changed the way patients are counted. If you finally go in to get that elective surgery you've been putting off, you will be tested before admittance. If you are asymptomatic but test positive that you have or have had the coronavirus... you get counted as a COVID-19 hospitalization. You aren't sick, you aren't contagious, you aren't in the hospital for any coronavirus-related reason --- but in some states, some systems, you are now an official number.

Who else is counting that way? Is Tennessee? Is Hamilton County? Is the Erlanger Hospital system? How do we know?

Consider how ambiguous the opening sentence from a local news provider is: "The number of coronavirus patients in Chattanooga hospitals has risen to the highest level yet - 71. That includes 37 from Hamilton County."

Citing "the number of coronavirus patients in 'nooga hospitals" is not necessarily the same as the number of patients admitted to 'nooga hospitals because of coronavirus, or admitted with coronavirus symptoms, or even as capable of transmitting the coronavirus. Technical differences for sure, but differences which would paint radically different pictures of where we are and what we should be doing.

Based on the numbers, is Chattanooga a COVID hotspot?

That "number of coronovirus patients in 'nooga hospitals" sounds like yes. But then it says 37 are from Hamilton County. Does that mean the other 34 are from inside Chattanooga city limits? Or are they from outlying counties? Chattanooga hospitals serve counties from Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama. Are those 34 patients "with" coronavirus from different states? If so, are they showing up as numbers in both states simultaneously?
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As I said, this is where the ethics of journalism, science, the economy, and politics hits the fan. Facts can be compiled and communicated without the taint of agendas--but truth has to be your only agenda. It can be left for we citizens to interpret and decide.

Whatever we individually believe, and whether your top concern is having a college football season (no insignificant matter for the economy, as well as the fabric of our society), opening the grade schools, or protecting your own life if you have predisposing conditions... we are going to have to demand clear answers to questions if we are going to maintain our liberty to make our own life decisions. And have a football season.
thank you very much for a reasonable and informative post.
 
This is a good post, so this isn’t a criticism of you, but one day Vol fans are going to have to let this game go. It was 20 years ago and is not why we are where we are now. It sucks, but losing to Alabama and ND in 1990 when we had a shot at a national title also sucked. So did losing to terrible South Carolina and Arkansas teams in 1992 when we had a shot at the inaugural SEC championship game. So did choking in the second half of the 1995 Florida game when we could have played for a national title. So did losing to Arkansas in 1999 when we could’ve played for another national title. It happens.
Tell that to the voodoo priestess.
 
They are saying the antibodies do not stay in your system long enough for Herd Immunity. Also, if that’s true I don’t understand how a vaccine would work considering it does the same thing as herd immunity. Just without you actually having to come in contact with the virus.

If the NFL gets that coronavirus helmet up and running I think you will see college football shift to that helmet.
May I ask where you're hearing this information about antibodies not staying in your system?
 
Yes but what would that do to your system...... would it be harmful? Could it cause autism? At some point it’s like are you willing to just take your chances? You know like not getting a flu vaccine....
The vaccine linked to autism study has been repeatedly debunked so many times it is laughable.
 
The vaccine linked to autism study has been repeatedly debunked so many times it is laughable.

Well good for it. I’ve also had pretty much every shot that you can have. My point was, what does something like constant vaccinations in a short period of time do to you. How does it effect your body.
 
Checking in from the epicenter of COVID down here in Miami. Things are getting more challenging as far as hospital capacity and ICUs. The deaths are starting to tick up. The number we have been watching is the percent positive. They want it at 5% or less. Miami-dade is currently at 26%. 77,000 of our cases are in the 15 - 34 age group.
When NYC was the epicenter, I was dismissive like a lot of you. Now that I'm seeing ti first hand, I grasp the seriousness of the situation. I've got 2 friends my age (42) and younger fighting it and not getting better. I have a handful of friend slightly older who are dealing with it much better.
Pu the mask on y'all. Listen to scientists and not Facebook/Twitter/your cousin and them.
We are going to come out the other side better for all of this. The breakdown is the biggest opportunity for the breakthrough.
 
There's also been a huge study on it being airborne (moves with the air instead of hangs) that would invalidate public social distancing. It's crazy.
The only issue with that is that would really only be an issue regarding the air spread if it was in a building considering the virus basically dies in the sun before it has time to do anything to you.
 
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