2020 Presidential Race

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evillawyer said:
Trump's voters were split between the white grievance deplorables and the Clinton haters last go around. He'll still get the white grievance deplorables, but not the "anybody but Joe" crowd because there is no such crowd.
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There’s not gonna be an anybody but Joe crowd because we don’t know who the POTUS will be. The fact that he’s kowtowing to his progressive constituents by playing identity politics with his nominee scares the hell out of me. I keep hearing “He needs to nominate a woman of color”. Why is that? 🤔 This bull$hit right here is everything wrong with your party and this country. He needs to nominate the best person available to be POTUS because I believe there is no way he completes his first term. If the best person available is a woman of color then so be it, but I’m not aware of one I’d trust running the country right now. How does anybody have any confidence in Biden completing a term or even half a term?
From a campaign standpoint it’s idiotic when you narrow the field so the opposition can already have loaded ammo ready to go for months . At this point it’s just a ploy to lockdown future votes of women and minorities anyway, so Democrats can say we’re the party that got the first woman and black guy POTUS.
 
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evillawyer said:
Trump's voters were split between the white grievance deplorables and the Clinton haters last go around. He'll still get the white grievance deplorables, but not the "anybody but Joe" crowd because there is no such crowd.
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Yep..... he definitely may lose but I wouldn’t count him out. Either way, it will be bc of himself and nothing to do with Biden...... I’m voting for trump but it has absolutely nothing to do with the reasons you mentioned.
 
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evillawyer said:
Trump's voters were split between the white grievance deplorables and the Clinton haters last go around. He'll still get the white grievance deplorables, but not the "anybody but Joe" crowd because there is no such crowd.
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But he picks up the incumbent angle. And pending Covid if you see a couple more months with at least a million job adds and sneak under 8% unemployment that's going to be in his favor too.

People also dont like change during a crisis either. Go to any war or disease outbreak and you dont see the incumbent often lose, even if things are bad.

Better the devil you know.
 
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Joe Biden Pledges to Rejoin WHO on ‘First Day as President’

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Joe Biden, the presumptive Democrat nominee, is pledging to rejoin the World Health Organization (WHO) on his first day in the White House in response to President Donald Trump’s announcement that the United States would exit the body.

“Americans are safer when America is engaged in strengthening global health,” the former vice president wrote on social media, upon news of the Trump administration’s move. “On my first day as President, I will rejoin the WHO and restore our leadership on the world stage.”

On Tuesday, Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was the first to publicize that Trump would withdraw the U.S. from the WHO. Trump’s decision came as the agency, which is affiliated with the United Nations, has come under fire for its handling of the COVID19 pandemic, especially in regards to China, where the virus appears to have originated.

The WHO initially applauded China’s handling of the outbreak in early January, even claiming the Communist power’s commitment to transparency as the virus spread was “very impressive, and beyond words.”

Biden Pledges to Rejoin WHO on 'First Day as President'
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Joe Biden Pledges to Rejoin WHO on ‘First Day as President’

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Joe Biden, the presumptive Democrat nominee, is pledging to rejoin the World Health Organization (WHO) on his first day in the White House in response to President Donald Trump’s announcement that the United States would exit the body.

“Americans are safer when America is engaged in strengthening global health,” the former vice president wrote on social media, upon news of the Trump administration’s move. “On my first day as President, I will rejoin the WHO and restore our leadership on the world stage.”

On Tuesday, Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was the first to publicize that Trump would withdraw the U.S. from the WHO. Trump’s decision came as the agency, which is affiliated with the United Nations, has come under fire for its handling of the COVID19 pandemic, especially in regards to China, where the virus appears to have originated.

The WHO initially applauded China’s handling of the outbreak in early January, even claiming the Communist power’s commitment to transparency as the virus spread was “very impressive, and beyond words.”

Biden Pledges to Rejoin WHO on 'First Day as President'
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To be fair, he probably thought he was talking about the band
 
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Americans Defund Democrats in Statehouse Elections as Democrats Seek to Defund Police

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Americans significantly decreased contributions to Democrats running for state legislature seats in the second quarter as the Democrat Party has turned hard left, fundraising information announced this week shows.

The lackluster performance by Democrats at the state level could have broader national implications. First off, state-level political trends sometimes forecast later looming national trends—”from the State House to the White House,” the saying goes.

But more importantly, the state legislatures elected this year will handle redistricting next year heading into the 2022 cycle—influencing the direction of and perhaps control of the U.S. House of Representatives for the next decade.

The drop-off in Democrat Legislative Campaign Committee (DLCC) fundraising—which has Democrats $20 million shy of their stated cycle-long goal of $50 million total—comes as their Republican counterparts nearly doubled the total raised by Democrats in the second quarter.

Americans Defund Democrats in Statehouse Elections as Democrats Seek to Defund Police
 
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Progressive Biden Supporters Pledge Revolt If Dem Nominee Leans Too Moderate, Courts Republicans

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) may be in line with the Democratic Party when it comes to the 2020 contender, but his progressive supporters may not be, according to a Wednesday report in The Hill.

Although the Biden campaign has made every effort to court and win progressive support — including a push to put progressive and Democratic Socialist superstars like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) on its policy teams — the relationship between the Biden campaign and certain far-left elements of the party is still tenuous and after a week of campaign announcements focusing largely on Republican (and former Republican) support for the former Veep, progressives are speaking out.

“Biden is transparently taking a bet to win over a group of anti-Trump Republicans but at the expense of what? Potentially losing some of the largest movements in history?” progressive activist and Sanders supporter Nomi Kurst told The Hill. “His excitement is extremely low and that should always be alarming for candidates. It’s the Hillary Clinton strategy all over again.”

Biden has welcomed these efforts with open arms, and speaking over the weekend, stressed his ability to extend an olive branch across the aisle.

“It’s how our government was designed to work,” Biden told the National Education Association, the nation’s largest teachers union. “I’ve done it my whole life. No one’s ever doubted my word, and I’ve been able to bring Democrats and Republicans together in the United States Congress to pass big things, to deal with big issues.”

Progressives say they may bolt the party, though, if Biden keeps up efforts to woo Republicans, stressing that partisan rancor is at an all-time high and Republicans are likely to oppose Biden policy efforts once he takes office.

Progressive Biden Supporters Pledge Revolt If Dem Nominee Leans Too Moderate, Courts Republicans
 
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LouderVol said:
But he picks up the incumbent angle. And pending Covid if you see a couple more months with at least a million job adds and sneak under 8% unemployment that's going to be in his favor too.

People also dont like change during a crisis either. Go to any war or disease outbreak and you dont see the incumbent often lose, even if things are bad.

Better the devil you know.
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Both Korea, Vietnam and Iraq wars say otherwise. In all 3 cases the party that held the White House lost. Incumbent or not. And Trump has shown himself to be extremely incompetent in a time of crisis.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Progressive Biden Supporters Pledge Revolt If Dem Nominee Leans Too Moderate, Courts Republicans

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) may be in line with the Democratic Party when it comes to the 2020 contender, but his progressive supporters may not be, according to a Wednesday report in The Hill.

Although the Biden campaign has made every effort to court and win progressive support — including a push to put progressive and Democratic Socialist superstars like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) on its policy teams — the relationship between the Biden campaign and certain far-left elements of the party is still tenuous and after a week of campaign announcements focusing largely on Republican (and former Republican) support for the former Veep, progressives are speaking out.

“Biden is transparently taking a bet to win over a group of anti-Trump Republicans but at the expense of what? Potentially losing some of the largest movements in history?” progressive activist and Sanders supporter Nomi Kurst told The Hill. “His excitement is extremely low and that should always be alarming for candidates. It’s the Hillary Clinton strategy all over again.”

Biden has welcomed these efforts with open arms, and speaking over the weekend, stressed his ability to extend an olive branch across the aisle.

“It’s how our government was designed to work,” Biden told the National Education Association, the nation’s largest teachers union. “I’ve done it my whole life. No one’s ever doubted my word, and I’ve been able to bring Democrats and Republicans together in the United States Congress to pass big things, to deal with big issues.”

Progressives say they may bolt the party, though, if Biden keeps up efforts to woo Republicans, stressing that partisan rancor is at an all-time high and Republicans are likely to oppose Biden policy efforts once he takes office.

Progressive Biden Supporters Pledge Revolt If Dem Nominee Leans Too Moderate, Courts Republicans
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carlos86 said:
Both Korea, Vietnam and Iraq wars say otherwise. In all 3 cases the party that held the White House lost. Incumbent or not. And Trump has shown himself to be extremely incompetent in a time of crisis.
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Ah Bush 1. I was thinking 2 only. You got me there.

Truman served out all his time for Korea. Not wrong there.

Vietnam was a mess with Kennedy getting assinated. Johnson served part of two terms, I dont know if technically he could have run again. He wasnt the nomination at least. And then Nixon getting impeached. So I wasnt wrong there either.

The party losing is completely different than incumbent losing. I think there it is pretty common for a flip after an incumbents second term. But that's not the case here.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
There’s not gonna be an anybody but Joe crowd because we don’t know who the POTUS will be. The fact that he’s kowtowing to his progressive constituents by playing identity politics with his nominee scares the hell out of me. I keep hearing “He needs to nominate a woman of color”. Why is that? 🤔 This bull$hit right here is everything wrong with your party and this country. He needs to nominate the best person available to be POTUS because I believe there is no way he completes his first term. If the best person available is a woman of color then so be it, but I’m not aware of one I’d trust running the country right now. How does anybody have any confidence in Biden completing a term or even half a term?
From a campaign standpoint it’s idiotic when you narrow the field so the opposition can already have loaded ammo ready to go for months . At this point it’s just a ploy to lockdown future votes of women and minorities anyway, so Democrats can say we’re the party that got the first woman and black guy POTUS.
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Bro. Feelings>Logic. That IS the democrat way.
 
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LouderVol said:
Ah Bush 1. I was thinking 2 only. You got me there.

Truman served out all his time for Korea. Not wrong there.

Vietnam was a mess with Kennedy getting assinated. Johnson served part of two terms, I dont know if technically he could have run again. He wasnt the nomination at least. And then Nixon getting impeached. So I wasnt wrong there either.

The party losing is completely different than incumbent losing. I think there it is pretty common for a flip after an incumbents second term. But that's not the case here.
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Johnson chose not to run 1968. Made the announcement in March.
 
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