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#826
#826
Testing has gotten so bad that it seems most any test coming back is positive. Which means you have thousands and thoiusands asymnptomatic, which is the bogeyman required to scare everybody. More cases less deaths, you figure out what's happening.
 
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#827
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Remy said:
Testing has gotten so bad that it seems most any test coming back is positive. Which means you have thousands and thoiusands asymnptomatic, which is the bogeyman required to scare everybody. More cases less deaths, you figure out what's happening.
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Well, no. The positive rate is between 5 and 10 percent in the states currently having issues. And some of those positive cases are indeed asymptomatic.
 
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#828
I know of a couple people that had 0 symptoms but tested positive. Fishy thing is that after they tested positive they were ordered to go to a different facility and get tested again to “verify” the positive test. They did so and of course were positive. What do you want to bet that those 2 separate facilities each counted the same person as a positive for COVID? I was telling this to my brother in law who lives in GA and he said the same thing was going on there as well. So I feel we can basically cut these reported numbers in half.
 
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#829
imavolfan said:
I know of a couple people that had 0 symptoms but tested positive. Fishy thing is that after they tested positive they were ordered to go to a different facility and get tested again to “verify” the positive test. They did so and of course were positive. What do you want to bet that those 2 separate facilities each counted the same person as a positive for COVID? I was telling this to my brother in law who lives in GA and he said the same thing was going on there as well. So I feel we can basically cut these reported numbers in half.
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I've heard of way more suspected false negatives than anything from being around a bunch of RNs. Cases where the doctors were certain it was covid but could not get a test to light up positive.
 
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imavolfan said:
I know of a couple people that had 0 symptoms but tested positive. Fishy thing is that after they tested positive they were ordered to go to a different facility and get tested again to “verify” the positive test. They did so and of course were positive. What do you want to bet that those 2 separate facilities each counted the same person as a positive for COVID? I was telling this to my brother in law who lives in GA and he said the same thing was going on there as well. So I feel we can basically cut these reported numbers in half.
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also they test the same patients in hospitals everyday so likely that same person is being counted over and over
 
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#831
Well look at this way. If College football doesn’t happen it might be a blessing for whoever makes it to the SEC championship game in Atlanta and their fans.The crime report just hit for the past two months and Atlanta isn’t a safe place to visit. It never was safe but it’s much worst now. It appears the city leaders and the mayor has lost total control. Anyone here want to dispute this, look and investigate the data. Sad
 
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sona said:
I've heard of way more suspected false negatives than anything from being around a bunch of RNs. Cases where the doctors were certain it was covid but could not get a test to light up positive.
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A great example is my wife who runs an urgent care had a family of 5 come in with symptoms. Mom, dad, and the three kids had the exact same symptoms. She had
them tested and 4 came back positive but dad came back negative. Of course, she treated him the same because it was obvious he had it as well.
 
#835
#835
imavolfan said:
I know of a couple people that had 0 symptoms but tested positive. Fishy thing is that after they tested positive they were ordered to go to a different facility and get tested again to “verify” the positive test. They did so and of course were positive. What do you want to bet that those 2 separate facilities each counted the same person as a positive for COVID? I was telling this to my brother in law who lives in GA and he said the same thing was going on there as well. So I feel we can basically cut these reported numbers in half.
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I can't speak to other states, but Tennessee is assigning each new person an identifier in their database and adding any subsequent tests to that identifier. So they aren't double counting the same individuals.
 
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GoVolunteers said:
I do admit that the conspiracy theories are very entertaining. It seems to be the same 4 or 5 stories but you always see a twist.
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I now have confirmed information from inside a hospital system (from Florida) that there is more than a little "fishiness" going on. Individuals are definitely getting counted more than once, hospital numbers are artificially inflated due to increased compensation for a diagnosis of CV19, and obvious alternative causes of death are being labeled "COVID deaths" if they test positive. What's most aggravating is that we have no way to even guesstimate how off the numbers are. From what I've heard, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the actual death toll from confirmed CV19 was less than 50% of what's being reported.
 
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#839
kiddiedoc said:
I now have confirmed information from inside a hospital system (from Florida) that there is more than a little "fishiness" going on. Individuals are definitely getting counted more than once, hospital numbers are artificially inflated due to increased compensation for a diagnosis of CV19, and obvious alternative causes of death are being labeled "COVID deaths" if they test positive. What's most aggravating is that we have no way to even guesstimate how off the numbers are. From what I've heard, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the actual death toll from confirmed CV19 was less than 50% of what's being reported.
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So, what's the end purpose behind so grossly inflating the numbers?
 
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#842
ohhbother said:
In SC, we're running about a 20 percent positive rate daily. The numbers reported by DHEC are unique positives - not duplicates, not antibody tests. I work in health care, and the conspiracy theories are just mind-boggling. The health system where I work has 36 C19+ patients today. Two weeks ago, we had three. How can people refuse to see what's happening right in front of them?
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Fear and selfishness knows no bounds.
 
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#844
I'm a physician and although I don't deal with COVID patients directly know a bit abut what's going on here. The double counting referenced above doesn't happen...at least not here. As for undercounting or over counting I'm convinced there are more COVID related deaths than official records indicate.

My female friend/housemate is an RN working exclusively with COVID patients. The first COVID patient in our hospitaI was admitted in late March and for several weeks there were between 14-19 patients at any one tome. That number went up gradually but has increased dramatically recently. Last night there were 91 including 9 in ICU.
 
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#845
#845
MurphyVol said:
Our local health dept said they can test you in a week if you set up an appointment now and then the results will be back 7-10 days later. Geez, you could be recovered or setting up a tombstone by then.
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Got tested on Monday. I was told I would get results in 2-3 days. I haven’t heard anything yet .
 
#846
#846
The Ivy League schools will cancel their season and when that happens, the trickle-around effect will be overwhelming.
 
#847
#847
Dumbledorange said:
The Ivy League schools will cancel their season and when that happens, the trickle-around effect will be overwhelming.
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The Ivy League has already stated that they’re considering two scenarios, a conference-only slate in the fall or playing football in the spring (which, incidentally, could also be conference-only).

The SEC will not be following the lead of the Ivy League. The most profitable conferences and programs in the sport aren’t going to have their seasons dictated by eight FCS schools that operate in a radically different fashion.
 
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#848
bamawriter said:
So, what's the end purpose behind so grossly inflating the numbers?
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Do you really need to ask this? There are clearly political motivations behind the reactions, the media reporting on this, etc.
The other day “experts” said large gatherings and “protests” across the country showed “no evidence” of being a risk of spreading COVID. The same news source has an article from “experts” predicting that trumps mt Rushmore 4th of July celebration is, get this, “a threat to spread COVID” and it’s grossly irresponsible 😂 the same was said for the protests by protesters of these freedom trampling restrictions in Michigan. I guess COVID only spreads at certain gatherings? Science is weird 😂
 
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#849
TrumpedUpVol said:
The SEC will not be following the lead of the Ivy League. The most profitable conferences and programs in the sport aren’t going to have their seasons dictated by eight FCS schools that operate in a radically different fashion.
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They're not even FCS, brother. FCS is like Army or Memphis, or Boise State.

The Ivy League is Division 1-AA, the same level as the Southern Conference, teams like UT-Chattanooga, East Tennessee State, that tier.

I agree with you, Nothing they do has any bearing on what the SEC and other Power 5 conferences decide.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They're not even FCS, brother. FCS is like Army or Memphis, or Boise State.

The Ivy League is Division 1-AA, the same level as the Southern Conference, teams like UT-Chattanooga, East Tennessee State, that tier.

I agree with you, Nothing they do has any bearing on what the SEC and other Power 5 conferences decide.
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Memphis and Boise are not fcs, they’re fbs.
 
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