2020 Presidential Race

[volfanjustin]

Impossible to quantify. Looks to me that more people became favorable to him after the election. He has a cult-like following now. I believe but cannot prove there was a strong anti-Hillary vote in '16.

Then you are simply ignoring his rallies while he was running and how he went straight to the top when he got in the race

 

[Orangeburst]

I’d say a rather large number of people voted for Trump as an anti-hilliary vote.

If anything it was anti establishment.

 

[volfanjustin]

You understand that anti Trump excitement can be just as powerful as pro Biden excitement, right?

Simply being anti someone usually doesn't result in success. People were not excited about Kerry, McCain, Romney. I believe in order to win the candidate has to generate excitement.

 

[McDad]

Trump had a 30K rally early and packed arenas throughout the campaign. Anti-Hills don't show up to rallies.

That's a fair take. More people voted than attended rallies, though.

 

[Orangeburst]

Then you are simply ignoring his rallies while he was running and how he went straight to the top when he got in the race

He knocked out what, at least 12 challengers. That took Trump support.

 

[volfanjustin]

I’m voting for Biden so Donald Trump won’t be president anymore. Not sure why this is difficult for you, or what you think you’re proving.

I'm proving exactly what I already knew, the radical far left base can't name any policy O'Biden stands for also that the increasing radical base doesn't love the though of an O'Biden presidency

 

[LouderVol]

He was in PA the other day, nobody covered it. Not too mention the millions of dollars he has raised from his "bunker". Honestly, why leave the bunker when Trump and his supporters are shooting themselves in the foot and burning everything down around them?

Leadership? You know that thing you hate on Trump for not having, but are now cheering that Biden doesnt have either.

Hypocrisy thy name is Republi.....errr Democrats.

Looks like its flip the arguments season as we wonder why we are stuck with bad candidates.

 

[volfanjustin]

He knocked out what, at least 12 challengers. That took Trump support.

He had a ton of support. I have family that never cared 1 second about politics but couldn't wait to go vote for Trump. I went on vacation and I saw hundreds of guys in their 20s wearing MAGA hats, you think those guys would have supported Bush, McCain or Romney? Hell no

 

[tvolsfan]

I'm proving exactly what I already knew, the radical far left base can't name any policy O'Biden stands for also that the increasing radical base doesn't love the though of an O'Biden presidency

I really enjoyed reading this post.

 

[Rifleman]

Remember how passionate you were about, "anybody but Hillary". Same thing today except the shoe is on the other foot.

Unusually high rates of negative voting in 2016, for sure.

 

[Orangeburst]

NM. I misread.

 

[McDad]

Leadership? You know that thing you hate on Trump for not having, but are now cheering that Biden doesnt have either.

Hypocrisy thy name is Republi.....errr Democrats.

Looks like its flip the arguments season as we wonder why we are stuck with bad candidates.

Look at our candidates the last 30 years:
Dole
Clinton

Bush 2
Gore

Bush 2
Kerry

McCain
Obama

Romney
Obama

Trump
Hillary

Trump
Biden

There is SO MUCH suck on that list. Arguably only Obama and Trump have "excited" people.

 

[volfanjustin]

Look at our candidates the last 30 years:
Dole
Clinton

Bush 2
Gore

Bush 2
Kerry

McCain
Obama

Romney
Obama

Trump
Hillary

Trump
Biden

There is SO MUCH suck on that list. Arguably only Obama and Trump have "excited" people.

I was very young during Clinton but it felt as if there was excitement around him.

 

[McDad]

I was very young during Clinton but it felt as if there was excitement around him.

There was for his first election. I don't remember how much there was for his second. I was a staunch Repub back then. So, I remember being completely disheartened by Dole.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I really don’t think the Dems understand how bad it is out there for them in the average population. The WuFlu hypocrisy, riots and anti-cop sentiments truly aren’t doing them any favors in the general perception of the party.

Pffft.... The fly over states don't count. The silent majority doesn't count. Should have put that in blue.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

There was for his first election. I don't remember how much there was for his second. I was a staunch Repub back then. So, I remember being completely disheartened by Dole.

Dole, Romney and mccain completely uninspiring. Except to go switch the channel.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

The denial some have over Hillary is just as strong as the denial some have over Trump. Both are flawed individuals that have accrued blind supporters.

They are both very flawed. I wish everyone would take a moment to do a truth check with themselves. You can't say behavior on one part isn't as bad when the same behaviors are repeated by the other side. Both equally wrong.

 

[carlos86]

This explains why the Trump campaign is spending so much money in Missouri now.

 

[Rifleman]

Dole, Romney and mccain completely uninspiring. Except to go switch the channel.

Bob Dole and John McCain's service to this country is incredibly inspiring.

 

[carlos86]

There a trend that is starting to show Trump and Republicans losing ground in the suburban congressional districts.

These are all bell-weather districts.

Indiana-05 (suburban Indianapolis)
GA-07 (suburban Atlanta)
TX-22 (DeLay old district in Houston metro)
TX-24 (Dallas/Fort Worth)
NY-02 (Long Island)

 

[Orangeburst]

Unusually high rates of negative voting in 2016, for sure.

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This poll was conducted two months before the election so does not represent actual voters. If these "negative votes" do not vote they are irrelevant.

 

[BreatheUT]

I asked the other day what has O'Biden ever accomplished in his life and of course I got no answers. I want to ask the liberals this, what policy that he has pushed specifically has you so excited?

Crickets again?

 

[BreatheUT]

I think the dem's are trying to steal the election with mail in ballots too. Basically its the "we know you don't want to vote but we are going to send ballots to force you to amd if it's not you, no one will ever know". This is corruption in it's highest order. It's like food poisoning the other team when they eat their team meal because you want to win so badly.

 

[Rifleman]

This poll was conducted two months before the election so does not represent actual voters. If these "negative votes" do not vote they are irrelevant.

Voter polled after election day definitely seemed to be of the same temperament, but I could not find the same question polled yet.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Rotting of the Big Apple: World famous monument of George Washington is defaced as NYC city slides billions into the red, its police face $1bn in cuts and de Blasio is accused of 'surrendering the city to lawlessness'

New York City's famous George Washington Monument was defaced with red paint on Monday as protesters gathered further downtown outside City Hall ahead of a controversial vote that could slash the city's police budget by $1billion - 16 percent of its total - despite escalating crime and chaos.

In the latest symbol of police defiance and unruliness across the city, the vandals tossed red paint at the famous monument on Monday then fled the scene.

President Trump tweeted on Tuesday: 'We are tracking down the two Anarchists who threw paint on the magnificent George Washington Statue in Manhattan. We have them on tape. They will be prosecuted and face 10 years in Prison based on the Monuments and Statues Act. Turn yourselves in now!'

At city hall, protesters who have set up an Occupy City Hall camp clashed with police on Tuesday morning. The protesters have been there now for a week and are refusing to leave until the NYPD budget is cut by at least $1billion - something that is likely to happen on Tuesday.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has reached an agreement with the city council that divests $1 Billion from the NYPD and cancels the hiring of 1,163 cops.

Some Democrats say it is a step in the right direction and that the police force - like others across the country - needs to be stripped of its power and resources to combat systemic racism and excessive use of force.

Washington Sq Park monument defaced as NYPD faces $1bn budget cut | Daily Mail Online