George Floyd Protest/Riots

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Black lives don't matter to Democrats. Black votes matter to the Democrats. They are always pushing racism during election years ...... every 4 years it's the same ole thing they use to rile up the black voters.
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This election must be especially important. If racism buys elections, this year is extravagant.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Black lives don't matter to Democrats. Black votes matter to the Democrats. They are always pushing racism during election years ...... every 4 years it's the same ole thing they use to rile up the black voters.
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And, they fall for it every time along with the perpetually offended social justice warriors.
 
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rjd970 said:
Some fun for the tinfoil hats brigade:

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I just watched the tape from another view in the early moments, before they walked Floyd across the street Where he was later pinned down. 2 of the first 3 cops on scene were wearing masks at that time. One looked like a dark, maybe black bandana, and the other was light blue. The arrest was going smoothly , without any push back at that point. I wonder when it started going bad, maybe when Chauvin came on scene. It was very peaceful and co-operative early on. I had not seen this tape before. They were getting everyone out of the car Floyd was in.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I just watched the tape from another view in the early moments, before they walked Floyd across the street Where he was later pinned down. 2 of the first 3 cops on scene were wearing masks at that time. One looked like a dark, maybe black bandana, and the other was light blue. The arrest was going smoothly , without any push back at that point. I wonder when it started going bad, maybe when Chauvin came on scene. It was very peaceful and co-operative early on. I had not seen this tape before. They were getting everyone out of the car Floyd was in.
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The meme was mostly in jest.

Yeah everything I’ve seen and read about it shows that whole scenario was simply outrageous. This is an easy one for people to point to and say WTF. I can’t understand how anybody can watch the Floyd video, from any angle and any time and not even get a little pissed off.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is correct. I can tell you that any legitimate police trainer or expert is going to say that this use of deadly force was warranted, for exactly the reason you point out.

The fact that he was running away make zero difference because he had turned and was trying to hit the officers.

The prosecutors who are speaking out on this already should be ashamed of themselves.
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I agree with you 100%. I wish all in this thread understood this point
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Black lives don't matter to Democrats. Black votes matter to the Democrats. They are always pushing racism during election years ...... every 4 years it's the same ole thing they use to rile up the black voters.
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You think after 60 years the black communities would realize that they are getting duped again and again and they are still stuck in the same rut.
 
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rjd970 said:
The meme was mostly in jest.

Yeah everything I’ve seen and read about it shows that whole scenario was simply outrageous. This is an easy one for people to point to and say WTF. I can’t understand how anybody can watch the Floyd video, from any angle and any time and not even get a little pissed off.
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I wasn't aware that they walked him across the street before he was pinned down.
 
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LouderVol said:
Yup. And there was a recent case of two other Atlanta cops getting fired for a bunch of stuff. One of the wrongs was pointing a gun. It was a stun gun, but it was excessive. Seems like precedent has been set. And you know these cops knew about that situation.
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Word is those cops were fired at mayor's request, fast forward to the recent shooting, Mayor wanted them fired too, police chief said wait a minute. Mayor wouldn't budge, chief resigned in protest. Mayor condems officers and labeled them as murderers. Mayor will get sued city will pay, mayor will be thrown out on arse.

We've entered bizaro territory.
 
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evillawyer said:
He had been patted down and a taser is a non-lethal weapon. Under Garner, deadly force can be used against a fleeing suspect only if the officer has a good-faith belief that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Tasers don't present a significant threat of death or serious injury.
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What happens once one is tased?

They become defenseless.

Who is to say once the officer was tased and unresponsive that he would have decided to just leave and not stay and finish him off?

I believe he would have fled but this is an assumption.

The officer made a different assumption.

The situation is sad but I could see an officer fearing what would happen after being tased.
 
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NEOCON said:
What happens once one is tased?

They become defenseless.

Who is to say once the officer was tased and unresponsive that he would have decided to just leave and not stay and finish him off?

I believe he would have fled but this is an assumption.

The officer made a different assumption.

The situation is sad but I could see an officer fearing what would happen after being tased.
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Coming from a third party watching this play it in the comfort of his bed there's no telling what this guy would have done. Now imagine you were the officer presented with that split second decision.
 
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NEOCON said:
What happens once one is tased?

They become defenseless.

Who is to say once the officer was tased and unresponsive that he would have decided to just leave and not stay and finish him off?

I believe he would have fled but this is an assumption.

The officer made a different assumption.

The situation is sad but I could see an officer fearing what would happen after being tased.
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I understand the officer’s reaction and it is understandable if (when) they are cleared.

My issue is the situation could have been diffused by not insisting on arresting him and I think that shooting someone while fleeing...not fighting...but fleeing, is wrong. The assumption he would have kept running is just as strong...if not stronger....than the assumption he would have stopped, turned around, and got the officer’s gun and finished him. I just don’t buy that the officer’s life was in any real danger. In the heat of the moment, however, I can understand why they reacted the way they did.

That said, the guy shouldn’t have resisted either. I’m not sure what he thought would happen by grabbing the taser and taking off. It was pretty stupid.

There is culpability on both sides IMO and it is definitely a sad situation.
 
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rjd970 said:
I understand the officer’s reaction and it is understandable if (when) they are cleared.

My issue is the situation could have been diffused by not insisting on arresting him and I think that shooting someone while fleeing...not fighting...but fleeing, is wrong. The assumption he would have kept running is just as strong...if not stronger....than the assumption he would have stopped, turned around, and got the officer’s gun and finished him. I just don’t buy that the officer’s life was in any real danger. In the heat of the moment, however, I can understand why they reacted the way they did.

That said, the guy shouldn’t have resisted either. I’m not sure what he thought would happen by grabbing the taser and taking off. It was pretty stupid.

There is culpability on both sides IMO and it is definitely a sad situation.
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Agree.
 
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rjd970 said:
I understand the officer’s reaction and it is understandable if (when) they are cleared.

My issue is the situation could have been diffused by not insisting on arresting him and I think that shooting someone while fleeing...not fighting...but fleeing, is wrong. The assumption he would have kept running is just as strong...if not stronger....than the assumption he would have stopped, turned around, and got the officer’s gun and finished him. I just don’t buy that the officer’s life was in any real danger. In the heat of the moment, however, I can understand why they reacted the way they did.

That said, the guy shouldn’t have resisted either. I’m not sure what he thought would happen by grabbing the taser and taking off. It was pretty stupid.

There is culpability on both sides IMO and it is definitely a sad situation.
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My father gave me a piece of advice that he followed when I left for the the Army. If you ever have any doubt whether it's you or someone else... it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 
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NashVol11 said:
You've seen "the world is better off without George Floyd," though, which is an odd reaction to his death
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It's not a statement I would make, especially without knowing the man personally, but those who did made it after finding out about his past, where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly, threatening her unborn child, while ransacking her house. If he had been shot and killed during that incident, I would have shed no tears for him.
 
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Weezer said:
It's not a statement I would make, especially without knowing the man personally, but those who did made it after finding out about his past, where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly, threatening her unborn child, while ransacking her house. If he had been shot and killed during that incident, I would have shed no tears for him.
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Sadly, Floyd's brother was testifying last week saying how he admired and looked up to his brother. His idol wasnt MLK or Obama. It was his brother. The brother that had been arrested 13 times and held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. SMH. That's whats wrong with this movement
 
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