Major Travis Yates - Thoughts of a LEO

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clarksvol00 said:
Most teachers just want to go to work, teach their kids, and go home to do the mountains of paperwork they have left over after they get done with the official school day. By the way, the soccer moms and nascar dads are the worst about claiming little Johnny should have got an "A" even though he never did his homework. They really dont have an agenda other than let them do their job and pay them fairly for it.
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Most officers just want to go to work, help others, and go home to do the mountain of paperwork and court prep. By the way trailer park dads and ghetto moms are the worst claiming little Tyrone and Bubba has their “rights violated” by getting arrested for beating their wives and stealing in robberies. They really don’t have an agenda other than enforcing laws and trying to keep criminals off the streets
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hmmm…. now that is an interesting perspective. Can you go into more detail? Because it sounds like there it is a punitive consequence (higher taxes) for having a neighborhood improve. Or am I reading that incorrectly?
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The gist of the story was that Whole Foods was coming into the neighborhood and was going to increase the value of the land and property taxes were going to go up. That was no bueno for the residents. Whole Foods pleaded with them saying the store was going to basically employee all black people and the company who was going to build it was black owned. It was going to be in a new shopping plaza and was, like most Whole Foods stores, have other "nicer" places with it. Citizens petitioned the city to nix it based on the fact property taxes were going to go up. This was a case study when I was in graduate school which basically was saying that sometimes you want nice things but there are consequences to having those nice things (taxes).

I do believe Whole Foods eventually wormed its way into the area though.
 
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k-town_king said:
This crybaby bytch is a real POS

Yates was on KFAQ on Monday, in a weekly segment called "Behind the Blue Line," when he said there's no institutional racism in policing.

“All the research said — including Roland Fryer, an African American Harvard professor, Heather MacDonald and the National Academy of Sciences — all of their research says we’re shooting African Americans about 24 percent less than we probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed," Yates said.

Yates did not specifically cite which studies led him to this conclusion.

A representative for the National Academy of Sciences declined comment on Thursday.
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Not much study is needed; in 2018 for example, black offenders committed about 37% of all violent crime but were just 26% (209) of those killed by police. Non-Hispanic whites account for 34% of violent crime but are 50% (399) of police killings. Hispanics/Latinos commit 25% of violent crime and were 19% (148) of those killed. Table 43 People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

Of offenders who assault police, blacks are 38%, non-Hispanic whites 42%, Hispanic/Latinos 14%. Table 129

Further, white cops are no more likely to kill a black suspect than black or Hispanic cops, or slightly less according to every study on it.

That's a host of myths destroyed pretty easily. Yates makes an argument of logical exercise; cops should either kill fewer whites or more blacks.

If blacks committed the same rate of violent crime as whites, we'd have a rate much more approximate to other Western nations. Violent crime (and all crime) began an exponential increase in the late 1960s and peaked in the mid-90s, and has been in decline across all races and ethnicities since. However, the dramatic differences in black offender rates and all others have remained steady, far outstripping their representation of the population.

Even as the country has become the most diverse, least racist, most opportune country in the world. If black lives really mattered to BLM types, they'd be talking about the 8500 black men and women who'll be killed by other black men this year. And about the incredible dissolution of the black family that was intact in comparable numbers to white, nuclear families into the 1960s. Now, how does it happen that slavery and discrimination - actual "systemic racism" - didn't kill off the black family, but it died a quick death in the period from 1960 onward, the period of *least* racism?
 
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NCFisher said:
Not much study is needed; in 2018 for example, black offenders committed about 37% of all violent crime but were just 26% (209) of those killed by police. Non-Hispanic whites account for 34% of violent crime but are 50% (399) of police killings. Hispanics/Latinos commit 25% of crime and were 19% (148) of those killed. Table 43 People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

Of offenders who assault police, blacks are 38%, non-Hispanic whites 42%, Hispanic/Latinos 14%. Table 129

Further, white cops are no more likely to kill a black suspect than black or Hispanic cops, or slightly less according to every study on it.

That's a host of myths destroyed pretty easily. Yates makes an argument of logical exercise; cops should either kill fewer whites or more blacks.

If blacks committed the same rate of violent crime as whites, we'd have a rate much more approximate to other Western nations. Violent crime (and all crime) began an exponential increase in the late 1960s and peaked in the mid-90s, and has been in decline across all races and ethnicities since. However, the dramatic differences in black offender rates and all others have remained steady, far outstripping their representation of the population.

Even as the country has become the most diverse, least racist, most opportune country in the world. If black lives really mattered to BLM types, they'd be talking about the 8500 black men and women who'll be killed by other black men this year. And about the incredible dissolution of the black family that was intact in comparable numbers to white, nuclear families into the 1960s. Now, how does it happen that slavery and discrimination - actual "systemic racism" - didn't kill off the black family, but it died a quick death in the period from 1960 onward, the period of *least* racism?
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GTFO with the facts. We know better.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
Clay Travis is not thinking very deeply. It is perfectly possible to disband the police and replace it with another law enforcement model and/or organization. Saying you are going to scrap a police department doesn't mean you are going to allow lawlessness.

If this has already been posted, I apologize.

I live and work in Camden, the New Jersey city that disbanded and rebuilt its police force. We've been upheld as a model for cities like Minneapolis, but there's a lot more to the story.

The City that Really Did Abolish the Police
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Clay Travis will NEVER be considered a deep thinker because he's exactly the opposite
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm a conservative, middle class white man, but I'm pretty much to the point that I'll take that trade.

I won't call the cops if they don't exist, and if they don't exist, they can never bust into my house with a no-knock warrant and shoot my wife, kids, or me in the face for sleeping in our own home. If they don't exist, they don't have the authority and arms to make a human shield against potential rescuers as one of their own slowly murders someone over an excruciating nine minute timeline.

I live in the country, on an unpaved rural road, among neighbors that I trust who are as well armed as I am, and pretty much just as self-sufficient (or shall we say, neighborly-sufficient). Each of us own lots of well wooded property where we can bury the interlopers that the police would have had to respond to.

I'm just about fed up with the current state of our entire justice system that I'll accept their exit and give self-governance and the politeness of a well armed society a chance.

Fix this **** or burn it.
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Weighting the scale on the odds of a no-knock warrant against having no police/justice system is a logical contortion.

"One could consider these situations from another perspective. Of the 40 million Americans (16.9 percent) who had a face-to-face encounter with law enforcement in 2008, only 1.4 percent reported having force threatened or used against them. Three years earlier, the number was 1.6 percent, and in 2002 it was 1.5 percent. As a percentage of the population, averaged from 2002 to 2008, blacks (3.7 percent) have been slightly more likely than whites (1.2 percent) and Hispanics (2.2 percent), but the rates for each racial group have remained approximately flat." https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp08.pdf

The Antebellum and Reconstruction South was a polite society; was it just? Did Native Americans share in the polite society? Was NY just when burning 13 black, alleged conspirators at the stake, and 17 hanged? No thanks! to a romantic utopia in which 'justice' reverts back to the democratic mob; it has never existed. Anti-Western, anti-capitalist fascists are driving this meme, grossly distorting the exception as the rule.

Let's all take a breath.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
The gist of the story was that Whole Foods was coming into the neighborhood and was going to increase the value of the land and property taxes were going to go up. That was no bueno for the residents. Whole Foods pleaded with them saying the store was going to basically employee all black people and the company who was going to build it was black owned. It was going to be in a new shopping plaza and was, like most Whole Foods stores, have other "nicer" places with it. Citizens petitioned the city to nix it based on the fact property taxes were going to go up. This was a case study when I was in graduate school which basically was saying that sometimes you want nice things but there are consequences to having those nice things (taxes).

I do believe Whole Foods eventually wormed its way into the area though.
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Maybe there is an opportunity there for property tax reform?
 
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volbeast33 said:
What are the facts? This is whole situation is based on emotions instead of fact..... taking cops completely out of the situation ..... between 2007-2018.... there were 260,000 African-Americans treated for non-fatal gunshot wounds in America compared to only 77,000 for white people.... A lot of our cities have become war zones in certain areas.
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What does that have to do with whether or not judges have stopped believing police, whether police supervisors support officers, or whether the police accept responsibility for any changes in the frequency of these things?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
By reform do you mean not paying it anymore? Im all in. Extra 6K a year in my pocket.
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Yeah... if you are paying $6k for a normal residential property, I would definitely say there is legitimate room for property tax reform. No wonder the people are upset.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Clay Travis will NEVER be considered a deep thinker because he's exactly the opposite
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Clay Travis "thinks" whatever will make him a dollar. He was the most hated liberal in Middle Tennessee sports media before he left 104.5. He actually made a pretty smart business decision when he pivoted from mediocre sports blog to "sports" blog that that is really just a bunch of lukewarm conservative political takes.
 
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Cliff notes of the article: Cops never do anything wrong and everyone else is a coward. Oh and at one point, even shop class kids respected cops, whatever the hell that was supposed to mean.
 
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It’s pretty simple, if you respect a policeman’s authority and politely go along then the chances of it ever getting out of control are almost zero percent. It’s the I am going to be “woke” and act belligerent the entire time that gets most people into trouble. You don’t have to like or agree with someone to respect their authority.
 
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landscapingvol said:
It’s pretty simple, if you respect a policeman’s authority and politely go along then the chances of it ever getting out of control are almost zero percent. It’s the I am going to be “woke” and act belligerent the entire time that gets most people into trouble. You don’t have to like or agree with someone to respect their authority.
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And here we have the mindset of the slave.
 
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landscapingvol said:
It’s pretty simple, if you respect a policeman’s authority and politely go along then the chances of it ever getting out of control are almost zero percent. It’s the I am going to be “woke” and act belligerent the entire time that gets most people into trouble. You don’t have to like or agree with someone to respect their authority.
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You are looking at it all wrong. You are the authority. They work for you. They are there to protect your freedom. Not infringe upon it because you are too woke.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Greatly depends upon the situation. Take George Floyd or Philando Castile for instance.
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It's best to co-operate. ...……….fully, and at all times. They have the power in that situation, no matter if they are your employee like Huff says. It is stupid to do otherwise. It isn't a level playing field.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It's best to co-operate. ...……….fully, and at all times. They have the power in that situation, no matter if they are your employee like Huff says. It is stupid to do otherwise. It isn't a level playing field.
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And if the situation becomes life threatening, just let them kill you?
 
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