George Floyd Protest/Riots

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lacrossepro70 said:
Oh so it's a good thing that Trump is fanning the flames of violence, purposefully or not. It's smart on his part.
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The world can't stand still or be intimidated by people acting out. I'm sure he'll have protection. If people act out that's on them, not him. He's not fanning any flames, people are just choosing to act like ass hats and looking for someone to blame.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Have you noticed that there are tens of thousands of angry protestors in the streets? How do you think they're going to feel after this happens? It's practically a dangerous thing to do and I would NOT be surprised if there was more violence in the streets after this rally. It's stupid. Plain and simple.
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It kind of sounds like you're making the argument that Trump needs some sort of militia to protect him.
 
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Weezer said:
The world can't stand still or be intimidated by people acting out. I'm sure he'll have protection. If people act out that's on them, not him. He's not fanning any flames, people are just choosing to act like ass hats and looking for someone to blame.
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Now that, my friend, is a stretch.
 
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Weezer said:
Since when is the truth a stretch? You don't believe people are responsible for their own actions?
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Whether or not people act on their own discretion, it doesn't change the fact that he probably knows this is going to be a dangerous move on his part. It shows a stunning lack of empathy. Either he doesn't care, and he's plain stupid. Or he does care, and he's a racist trying to fan the flames of violence. Either way, not good.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Was in response to being personally attacked for not knowing my history, not directly in support of the argument itself. That is the only time I would talk about "educated people" vs. "not educated people." I ain't no elitist.
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You stated your opinion as fact (just as ypu did with the *literal *militia mistake) and then tried to defend it with a meaningless ad populum with a twist of an appeal to authority, then retreated altogether from a fact-based argument by inferring that Trump should plan his life by their opinions.

All while demanding not to be treated like a DA.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Whether or not people act on their own discretion, it doesn't change the fact that he probably knows this is going to be a dangerous move on his part. It shows a stunning lack of empathy. Either he doesn't care, and he's plain stupid. Or he does care, and he's a racist trying to fan the flames of violence. Either way, not good.
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Or he's someone running for President having a campaign rally. You're attempting to read more into it than is there.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Whether or not people act on their own discretion, it doesn't change the fact that he probably knows this is going to be a dangerous move on his part. It shows a stunning lack of empathy. Either he doesn't care, and he's plain stupid. Or he does care, and he's a racist trying to fan the flames of violence. Either way, not good.
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That's an excluded middle fallacy, professor.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Every conceivable alternative to your two options is that middle. That's what made your assertion another fallacy.
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"Or he's someone running for President having a campaign rally. You're attempting to read more into it than is there. "

That would fall under category A: Stupid.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
"Or he's someone running for President having a campaign rally. You're attempting to read more into it than is there. "

That would fall under category A: Stupid.
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You're genuinely posting like this, and demanding that we not respond as though you're stupid? You make it hard.

(A) I didn't post that.
(B) he may be running for president, care, and do it anyway.
(C) he may be held at gunpoint by Hillary Clinton, who made him schedule it.
(D) shape-shifting demon spawns will actually hold the rally, and Trump has nothing to do with it.

The thing is that you gave two options as the only possible options, and excluded the infinite number of conceivable options that may disprove your point. That is the very definition of an excluded middle.

If you don't want to be responded to as though you're stupid, you have some responsibility in making that happen.
 
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A thought I just had and thought it very important given the current climate in the US. Why is it not possible to have an intellectual discourse regarding race, racial tensions and the latest events? It always devolves into a debate of emotion and anecdotal evidence. Hopefully in the coming months this can take place but I fear with the presidential election coming up that will be impossible in the short term.
 
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