George Floyd Protest/Riots

[0nelilreb]

Who does this nutty lunatic think she works for ..... the WWE? That's a very good way to have the taste slapped out of her mouth if she was present during that conversation ....... rather than hiding behind a teleconference phone. Instead of acting & being important like a mayor for a major city she likes playing the big bad "thug" character.

I can’t look at her without thinking - if she would just let her hair grown out just a little longer ...

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Have you seen the health director of Pennsylvania? This is not a she:

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[ETV]

The policing system ain't going down easy so people have to show them who's boss. You should be happy that most protesters are just yelling and partying in the streets instead of burning it all down, but if people don't listen to them it could get pretty ugly.

Not the best approach to use when coming to the table for police reform.

As another posted said, this is not the norm or is it a widely accepted practice. What you're describing sounds like anarchy in the beginning.

 

[tennvols77]

Kudos to the alderman for pushing back.

No sympathy or empathy anymore, keep an ignorant electorate and keep getting ignorant politicians.

 

[0nelilreb]

The policing system ain't going down easy so people have to show them who's boss. You should be happy that most protesters are just yelling and partying in the streets instead of burning it all down, but if people don't listen to them it could get pretty ugly.

Then they wouldn’t be protesters . They would be rioting like we’ve already seen from some . One is a right , one is a crime . You should be happy most are not rioting , that’s only tolerated for so long before it’s stopped .

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

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LOL......That's not any kind of benefit improvement for that poor thing. Might have been better off being a dude.

 

[LouderVol]

Meanings of words change over time, and "thug" has absolutely been used with a racial connotation often recently. It's not made up and has nothing to do with statues (which are in no way "perfectly good history")

The people changing the meaning are the ones claiming victimhood, or assigning blame for the use, of the changed word.

The starting definition applies today, and to the current circumstances. So no, it hasnt freaking changed. You are assigning guilt and a racial (im)morality to a word that is by definition generic.

Or if you want to claim its racial you are appropriating it from its base culture.

The statues I am referencing are the 54th Mass. That was destroyed because they fought in the civil war. Because the numbnuts destroying stuff couldnt be bothered to find out it was an all black regiment that fought for the north. But you know they are racist so the monument had to be destroyed.

Point is ignoring the facts and assigning false attributes to subjects is maybe even more regressive than if it was actually negative. Why fight for your freedom if idiots are just going to assume your race anyway? Why use correct or "correct" words if people are just going to condemn it anyway.

If you want real meaningful change you have to start with the truth. And when it comes to these particular histories it's pretty easy to tell. As it is you are assigning guilt and wrong where there is none. That alienates people and weakens your message. It says you dont want to have a real conversation, you want to have your pre determined conversation where everyone else is already wrong.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The meaning of words evolve over time. "Negro" and "colored people" used to be perfectly acceptable (and are still preserved in entity names like "The United Negro College Fund" and "The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People"), but are now, at a minimum, anachronistic, and offensive to some or most (but not N-word territory). I would love to see an analysis of how the prevalence of the use of the term "thug" has gone up to describe young black men as the use of the N-word has declined. I'd hazard a guess they're correlated.

stop with that crap, thug comes from the word thuggee and has nothing to do with race. It's a term to describe violent criminals, of ANY race

 

[lacrossepro70]

Not the best approach to use when coming to the table for police reform.

As another posted said, this is not the norm or is it a widely accepted practice. What you're describing sounds like anarchy in the beginning.

Everyone who is opposed to the protesters is only interested in talking about the looting. That's why there's looting in the first place. Because they're not interested in reforming the system.

 

[NashVol11]

The people changing the meaning are the ones claiming victimhood, or assigning blame for the use, of the changed word.

The starting definition applies today, and to the current circumstances. So no, it hasnt freaking changed. You are assigning guilt and a racial (im)morality to a word that is by definition generic.

Or if you want to claim its racial you are appropriating it from its base culture.

The statues I am referencing are the 54th Mass. That was destroyed because they fought in the civil war. Because the numbnuts destroying stuff couldnt be bothered to find out it was an all black regiment that fought for the north. But you know they are racist so the monument had to be destroyed.

Point is ignoring the facts and assigning false attributes to subjects is maybe even more regressive than if it was actually negative. Why fight for your freedom if idiots are just going to assume your race anyway? Why use correct or "correct" words if people are just going to condemn it anyway.

If you want real meaningful change you have to start with the truth. And when it comes to these particular histories it's pretty easy to tell. As it is you are assigning guilt and wrong where there is none. That alienates people and weakens your message. It says you dont want to have a real conversation, you want to have your pre determined conversation where everyone else is already wrong.

Look, you can rail against it all you want, but meanings of words are still going to change over time and it’s always been that way. A word can have more than one meaning. Beyond that, there are a number of people who hear that it’s a problem and decide to double down and use it even more, which obviously doesn’t help

 

[Rickyvol77]

Everyone who is opposed to the protesters is only interested in talking about the looting. That's why there's looting in the first place. Because they're not interested in reforming the system.

Just because someone peacefully protests (and they have every right too and i support their right to), doesn't mean that everyone HAS to listen and agree with them. Some things are bigger deals than others to most normal Americans. And looting and criminality is the much bigger issue

 

[lacrossepro70]

Just because someone peacefully protests (and they have every right too and i support their right to), doesn't mean that everyone HAS to listen and agree with them. Some things are bigger deals than others to most normal Americans. And looting and criminality is the much bigger issue

By most normal Americans do you mean white Americans? B.c I guarantee you this is at the top of the list for 99% of black and brown people in America

 

[Rickyvol77]

By most normal Americans do you mean white Americans? B.c I guarantee you this is at the top of the list for 99% of black and brown people in America

why is everything about race with you libs? I never said anything about it?

And no, most normal Americans (with families, jobs, etc) aren't going to riot and loot their communities because they aren't criminals OR criminal enablers

 

[0nelilreb]

Everyone who is opposed to the protesters is only interested in talking about the looting. That's why there's looting in the first place. Because they're not interested in reforming the system.

That’s a lie . The reason there’s looting and destruction is because people are greedy , selfish and what more possessions either for themselves or to sell . Stealing Nike’s , Looting Targets , Cellphones , liquor stores , Pawn shops , jewelry stores has nothing what so ever to do with reforming anything . They are just using the protest to cover for being thieves .

 

[lacrossepro70]

why is everything about race with you libs? I never said anything about it?

And no, most normal Americans (with families, jobs, etc) aren't going to riot and loot their communities because they aren't criminals OR criminal enablers

Most protesters are not looters or rioters. And I'm not a "lib". And I'm talking about race b.c this is largely a racial issue? As badly as you don't want it to be

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Most protesters are not looters or rioters. And I'm not a "lib". And I'm talking about race b.c this is largely a racial issue? As badly as you don't want it to be

Any time anyone disagrees with many of this board's right wingers, they're labeled as a "lib". As if it is some sort of slight, most of them don't understand the difference between progressives and liberals

 

[NashVol11]

Watch to the end.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Seattle being Seattle

 

[LouderVol]

Look, you can rail against it all you want, but meanings of words are still going to change over time and it’s always been that way. A word can have more than one meaning. Beyond that, there are a number of people who hear that it’s a problem and decide to double down and use it even more, which obviously doesn’t help

Except the meaning hasnt actually changed. Trump was talking about all the bad actors when he said thug. Which is correct.

People have decided to assign Trump some guilt making the assumption that Trump only meant the black bad actors when he said thug. Or maybe even worse that he just means black people, with no reference to their actions. But to do that they have to completely ignore the context of the situation of him calling out the rioters/looters/vandals (another cultural word whose history is ignored because it doesnt fit a pre built narrative).

It's not like he was shown a picture of an AA church gathering and called them thugs. SJWs just looking to be offended.

 

[Boston Vol]

Moderate Dem/Republican same exact thing.

the reason he was Obama's runningmate was being the old white guy who appeals to moderate Republicans.

his platform is not progressive. some of you are so stupid you think any Dem is progressive. No he will keep the status quo and protect the rich. Just like a Republican minus the white nationalist support

This is complete nonsense. First moderate dem/republican are not the same thing. If you think Joe Biden and Mitt Romney are the same, then I don’t know what to tell you. Secondly, Biden was not selected as Obama’s running mate to appeal to moderate republicans. He was selected because Obama lacked foreign policy credentials and Biden, being the former chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, filled a void in Obama’s resume.

 

[NashVol11]

Except the meaning hasnt actually changed. Trump was talking about all the bad actors when he said thug. Which is correct.

People have decided to assign Trump some guilt making the assumption that Trump only meant the black bad actors when he said thug. Or maybe even worse that he just means black people, with no reference to their actions. But to do that they have to completely ignore the context of the situation of him calling out the rioters/looters/vandals (another cultural word whose history is ignored because it doesnt fit a pre built narrative).

It's not like he was shown a picture of an AA church gathering and called them thugs. SJWs just looking to be offended.

He was well aware that it was a problematic term.

 

[0nelilreb]

He was well aware that it was a problematic term.

You mean he watches what’s being said by the left then corrects it as PC BS? Yes I agree he’s aware of them trying to high jack the word to be racist. I agree with him , it’s bull .

 

[Bigun]

Who does this nutty lunatic think she works for ..... the WWE? That's a very good way to have the taste slapped out of her mouth if she was present during that conversation ....... rather than hiding behind a teleconference phone. Instead of acting & being important like a mayor for a major city she likes playing the big bad "thug" character.

She got mad because she was going to try and ignore the question and the Alderman rightfully stood up to her. Thought it was pretty awesome myself.

 

[golfballs]

Maximum kente

 

[lacrossepro70]

Any time anyone disagrees with many of this board's right wingers, they're labeled as a "lib". As if it is some sort of slight, most of them don't understand the difference between progressives and liberals

My philosophy is don't be "anything" just be informed and think for yourself.