George Floyd Protest/Riots

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utvolpj said:
No actually I defended nothing. I simply asked if her assertion that the crime was racially motivated had merit.
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You asked the question, you did not make assumptions. That same standard should be applied consistently when its the other way around.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
You asked the question, you did not make assumptions. That same standard should be applied consistently when its the other way around.
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Then talk to those who do it and stop making up crap that I've never posted. Good grief you're ridiculous
 
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volfanhill said:
Agreed. And the protestors should be allowed to protest. And the cops should be permitted to arrest those breaking laws.

Side note: One of the things I find funny about this is the very public way government is showing the world how incompetent they are. Not that I am for them, but they set curfews then don’t enforce them, talk about showing how inept you are on a daily basis. If you aren’t going to enforce them then stop putting them out there.
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Those curfews are for law abiding citizens.
 
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VolStrom said:
She didn't say it was. She question why it wasn't considered racially motivated and the George Floyd case is considered racist. She said 3 black men pleaded guilty of killing her and no outrage became of it.
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It's all about what the media wants to push.

The video where a black man was shot and killed inside a hotel while on his knees was worse but crickets about it really. Not trying to diminish anything from the Floyd death but as a society we react when told to.
 
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volfanhill said:
They are protesting cops killing unarmed black people
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Not so fast there partner. You better check your privilege.

After pointing out that 9 unarmed black men were killed last year, 36 for all races, I've been told by reliable sources the protests are in fact not about unarmed black men dying by police, or unarmed people in general dying by police, considering neither are a systemic problem according to real life.

I've been told the real purpose of the protests is revealed to you after you recieve your secret decoder ring from BLM following a $100 donation.
 
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volfanhill said:
Agreed. And the protestors should be allowed to protest. And the cops should be permitted to arrest those breaking laws.

Side note: One of the things I find funny about this is the very public way government is showing the world how incompetent they are. Not that I am for them, but they set curfews then don’t enforce them, talk about showing how inept you are on a daily basis. If you aren’t going to enforce them then stop putting them out there.
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Add in that people are supposed to be in quarantine to begin with. Our government is inept, and it goes beyond Republican/Democrat/partisan politics. We elect idiots because of the letter next to their name when we should be electing leaders.
 
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utvolpj said:
Then talk to those who do it and stop making up crap that I've never posted. Good grief you're ridiculous
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No, im proving a point. You support those who make hate crimes accusations. You may not do it, but those you support make a living on it
 
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Could be fake news, but i just saw a story that says 57 Buffalo PD Emergency Response Team members resigned due to the mistreatment of the officers who pushed the elderly man down.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Could be fake news, but i just saw a story that says 57 Buffalo PD Emergency Response Team members resigned due to the mistreatment of the officers who pushed the elderly man down.
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And this is why people are protesting. They grossly overreacted. Nearly killed a guy. And they want to back their peers who did it.
 
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utvolpj said:
Yes, she's discussing another news story

Her hypothetical is 3 white kids killing a black girl. You're telling me she actually means 4 cops kill a black man?
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Yeah... I understand it's different... That's how comparisons work.

The fact your first instinct was to ask for proof it was racially motivated is her ENTIRE point. A similar request for proof regarding George Floyd is considered frivolous at best and racist at worst.

I mean, even the Twitter comments going after her understand that, at least.
 
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utvolpj said:
Yes, she's discussing another news story

Her hypothetical is 3 white kids killing a black girl. You're telling me she actually means 4 cops kill a black man?
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She has a point. When the perpetrators are white and the victim black, racism is the automatic assumption and people scream hate crime. When the perpetrators are black and the victim white, it doesn't quite reach the same level of societal outrage. It certainly isn't called a hate crime. The system seems to insinuate only white people can hate. How do we know a white victim wasn't chosen because he/she's white? How do we know a black victim was chosen because he/she's black?
 
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ETV said:
Were you born an A-hole or did you have to work at it? You've mastered the craft well.
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Am I supposed to care? He keeps making stupid statements about my beliefs and won't ever back them up. He's always been one of the worst posters around and I should know better
 
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Weezer said:
She has a point. When the perpetrators are white and the victim black, racism is the automatic assumption and people scream hate crime. When the perpetrators are black and the victim white, it doesn't quite reach the same level of societal outrage. It certainly isn't called a hate crime. The system seems to insinuate only white people can hate. How do we know a white victim wasn't chosen because he/she's white? How do we know a black victim was chosen because he/she's black?
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Most have something to back up the racial assertion. She's just throwing this out at a tense time when there are zero facts. It's what she does
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Yeah... I understand it's different... That's how comparisons work.

The fact your first instinct was to ask for proof it was racially motivated is her ENTIRE point. A similar request for proof regarding George Floyd is considered frivolous at best and racist at worst.

I mean, even the Twitter comments going after her understand that, at least.
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She actually made the hypothetical comparison in her tweet. You're trying to make another for her which simply isn't there. If she wanted to tie it to Floyd she would have but instead she used an even more polarizing "three white kids"
 
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volfanhill said:
And this is why people are protesting. They grossly overreacted. Nearly killed a guy. And they want to back their peers who did it.
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I don't think they were intending to hurt the guy. That doesn't excuse their actions completely, but I don't see the video the same that some do. The man approached the police and put hands on. That's a big no-no in and of itself. The officers pushed him back, and to me, it looks like he stumbled. I don't think the intention was to push him violently to the ground. It was an unfortunate consequence. And I'm sure the man's age played a part.

After that, a person who I assume to be a supervisor pushes the other cops forward while speaking into his radio. At that point, I'm assuming he's calling for medics, and by the end of the video, you can see people who I assume to be medics bent over attending to the man.

I could be completely wrong on how I interpret that. After all, I wasn't there. But the elderly man did engage first. He didn't deserve to be near killed for it, but again, I don't think that was the intention of the officers either.

End of the day, cooler heads on both sides need to prevail.
 
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Weezer said:
I don't think they were intending to hurt the guy. That doesn't excuse their actions completely, but I don't see the video the same that some do. The man approached the police and put hands on. That's a big no-no in and of itself. The officers pushed him back, and to me, it looks like he stumbled. I don't think the intention was to push him violently to the ground. It was an unfortunate consequence. And I'm sure the man's age played a part.

After that, a person who I assume to be a supervisor pushes the other cops forward while speaking into his radio. At that point, I'm assuming he's calling for medics, and by the end of the video, you can see people who I assume to be medics bent over attending to the man.

I could be completely wrong on how I interpret that. After all, I wasn't there. But the elderly man did engage first. He didn't deserve to be near killed for it, but again, I don't think that was the intention of the officers either.

End of the day, cooler heads on both sides need to prevail.
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I can agree 100% with this.
 
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utvolpj said:
Most have something to back up the racial assertion. She's just throwing this out at a tense time when there are zero facts. It's what she does
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I disagree with the part where "most have something to back up the racial assertion". I see racism assumed all the time because the perp is white and the victim black.

I don't follow her, so I have no idea "what she does". Honestly, until people mentioned her on here, I'd never heard of her.
 
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Weezer said:
I disagree with the part where "most have something to back up the racial assertion". I see racism assumed all the time because the perp is white and the victim black.

I don't follow her, so I have no idea "what she does". Honestly, until people mentioned her on here, I'd never heard of her.
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Maybe by outsiders but is it charged like she asks? The public opinion court is irrelevant to her question
 
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