Systemic Racism

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Rickyvol77 said:
I have been through many many interviews in several professions, i have sat in on HR conducted interviews as well. I have never once in my life ever seen a candidate for a job dismissed because of his race. How would YOU know if a hiring manager "thinks someone is not a good fit soley due to his race"

The top factors for hiring (depending on the field) usually involves:
- Dependability/Reliability
- Experience
- Education
- Willingness to take Coaching
- Works well with others
- Intelligence/Problem Solving skills
- Communication/Personality
- Other specific skills (bilingual, computer skills, etc)
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That listing is a good one. I’d also add the ability to pass a drug test. I’ve dealt with a lot of companies who say they can’t get enough qualified applicants due to failing a drug test. It’s a huge problem.
 
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k-town_king said:
Going by your racist unmarried stat my kids didn't have a father because I never married their mom. Let's ignore that I was more involved than any married dad could be and one child is in med school and the other will be a computer programmer when he graduates.
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What do you mean by this? Does that statement actually make sense in your head?
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Whether i spell a word wrong doesnt discount the fact you're a race baiting socialist, and an ignorant one at that. You keep blaming others for your despair.
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To be fair that is a pretty simple word. I don't play spelling police but if you don't know it is stealing how much credibility in an intellectual debate do you have? If it was a typo or a tricky word ok. But steeling? Talk about the failings of the education system.

You also don't know what a socialist is apparently.


I don't think anyone here has heard me personally despair about my lot in life. I do pretty well myself. I just feel for others. There were times I made less in a year than what I made in the first 3 months of the year so I understand what it is to struggle.
 
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LouderVol said:
7 cases a year max. Some years only 2....

Yeah that sounds like a national crisis capable of keeping an entire race down.

In a country of +300million we have single digit cases a year.
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and even then, most are HR related snafus, hell in 6 of those cases, the companies got in trouble not because they discriminated against black people, they found out that most of the black candidates had criminal backgrounds and didnt hire them, but forgot to properly keep the paperwork that showed it up to date
 
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Delmar said:
That listing is a good one. I’d also add the ability to pass a drug test. I’ve dealt with a lot of companies who say they can’t get enough qualified applicants due to failing a drug test. It’s a huge problem.
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I can't believe i forgot that off the top of my head. but you are 100% correct
 
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LouderVol said:
7 cases a year max. Some years only 2....

Yeah that sounds like a national crisis capable of keeping an entire race down.

In a country of +300million we have single digit cases a year.
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LOL. You're smarter than this. Of course, those aren't all of them - EEOC cases happen all the time, in every city and every state. There are entire law practices that specialize in that area.

Had you read the byline description you'd have noticed that:

Below is an inexhaustive list of significant EEOC private or federal sector cases from 2003 to present. These cases illustrate some of the common, novel, systemic and emerging issues in the realm of race and color discrimination.
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At any rate, he and many others deny its existence completely - he asked for a list and I gave it to him.
 
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allvol123 said:
You assume I never had doors slammed in my face. I did. So there is no need to imagine it.

Some were slammed because I wasnt in the right clique. Or social group. Or didnt know the right person. Or maybe the other person was more attractive. In the end, I didnt GAF. I kept moving.
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You certainly have kept moving .... You kept moving right down Ingoramus Rd, Every City, Every State USA
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
What do you mean by this? Does that statement actually make sense in your head?
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Ok just as much. Does that make it better for you?

allvol123 said:
Well my grad school was paid in full by UT. So I guess I'm a little better than clown school.

You support an organization that's mission is defined by color, that is literally racist. You can not want to admit it, but it doesnt change the fact.
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Great. Education is a great thing. Good for you buddy.

You are still on the wrong side of history.

jp1 said:
Please answer this question as truthfully as you can. Do you have any racist tendencies?
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No. And being outspoken vs racism is not being "the real racist."
 
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PointGuard said:
You certainly have kept moving .... You kept moving right down Ingoramus Rd, Every City, Every State USA
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See, you cant refute it. You cant refute that I have experienced rejection and moved beyond it. So you just go to insults.
 
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Septic said:
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Delmar said:
That listing is a good one. I’d also add the ability to pass a drug test. I’ve dealt with a lot of companies who say they can’t get enough qualified applicants due to failing a drug test. It’s a huge problem.
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Well then lets not forget most would be cannabis. Cannabis is only illegal and stigmatized to be tested for due to a racist campaign using cannabis against the black and Mexican people.

It all still comes back to racism. Just like everything else in America.
 
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Septic said:
LOL. You're smarter than this. Of course, those aren't all of them - EEOC cases happen all the time, in every city and every state. There are entire law practices that specialize in that area.

Had you read the byline description you'd have noticed that:



At any rate, he and many others deny its existence completely - he asked for a list and I gave it to him.
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willful-ignorance. Noun. (uncountable) (idiomatic, law) A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.

Willful-ignorance dictionary definition | willful-ignorance defined
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k-town_king said:
Ok just as much. Does that make it better for you?



Great. Education is a great thing. Good for you buddy.

You are still on the wrong side of history.


No. And being outspoken vs racism is not being "the real racist."
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BLM is racist. The fact that I can read and comprehend tells me this. History is irrelevant in determining that issue.
 
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allvol123 said:
BLM is racist. The fact that I can read and comprehend tells me this. History is irrelevant in determining that issue.
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Ok man. I'm not going to change your mind. You bias has clouded your supreme intelligence apparently. I, with my limited ability to express myself, could not possibly influence your opinion.
 
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Maxine Waters Classifies Term ‘Rioting’ as ‘Negative Language … Used Against Black People’

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), in an interview published Wednesday, explained why she rejects the term “rioting” in describing violent protests, contending that the word is part of “negative language used far too often in a description of black people by folks who fundamentally don’t see black people the same way they see whites and others.”

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Waters spoke to The Cut about her “longtime fight over the language of insurrection and unrest versus rioting” and told the outlet that the unrest in recent days brought her to reflect on “what was going on back in the day, when I was confronting Daryl Gates, starting when the police shot Eula Love, which brought me in contact with the police commission and brought me to taking a look at what was going on with police community relations” years ago.

Waters Classifies 'Rioting' as 'Negative Language ... Against Black People'
 
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k-town_king said:
Ok man. I'm not going to change your mind. You bias has clouded your supreme intelligence apparently. I, with my limited ability to express myself, could not possibly influence your opinion.
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Their name states it. My biases are irrelevant.
 
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k-town_king said:
Well then lets not forget most would be cannabis. Cannabis is only illegal and stigmatized to be tested for due to a racist campaign using cannabis against the black and Mexican people.

It all still comes back to racism. Just like everything else in America.
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Are you saying minorities have to use and/or associate themselves with drugs?
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Everyone does have the ability to pull themselves up. We have one of the widest social safety nets in the world. Saying anybody has to commit violent crime just to stay alive in this country is a lie.

Let me be perfectly clear: racism in this country leading back to slavery absolutely led to the cause and effect of where we are now. It would be complete denial to say otherwise.

Two things:

1) There are aspects of black communities that have gotten worse since Jim Crow. Single motherhood rate, violent crime rate, and high school drop out rate to name just a few. There is a culture problem in poor communities that isn't the result of some implicit racist edict from the government.

2) It isn't that the government SHOULDN'T fix the problems black people have, it's that it CAN'T. All the government is doing is creating an entire class of people that are completely reliant on the government. That isn't going to cut it.

If we had as much national enthusiasm about people in black communities taking personal responsibility for their lives as we do about fighting imaginary injustice, I'm positive problems could improve rather quickly.
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This is as good a summary as I’ve seen in the discussion. There is certainly racism in all aspects of life and you are naive if you don’t think so. But the black community MUST take some responsibility in fixing itself. As Titan said, it’s a “culture” problem and it is a vicious cycle. Many black guys grow up thinking it’s a badge of honor to impregnate as many women as possible. (Do Shawn Kemp and our very own Travis Henry ring a bell?) And too many black women grow up having children as teenagers and have as many as they can to get more benefits. Too many children being raised by Grandma because Mom and Dad are too stoned, in jail or could care less about their kids. All of this just feeds into the problem in getting others to pay attention and taking the issue seriously. Sure, society has to do better but the black family has to take some responsibility in this and help fix it from the inside out. I heard something one time that I absolutely believe: “I don’t mind helping the helpless. I resent like hell helping the clueless.”
 
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