Systemic Racism

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Rickyvol77 said:
Exactly, people like K-town want to make it all about race every time when it's not.

just because you weren't hired by a hiring manager because he doesnt think you were a good fit, doesn't mean it is racist
just because the police pulled you over for speeding, doesn't mean it is racist
just because a bank denies your loan because you have bad credit, doesn't mean it is racist
just because your white friend's family has money because they saved it, and you and your single mom are struggling, doesn't mean it is racist
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All that stuff isn't necessarily racist.

Your low brow steroetypical comments definitely are.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
what companies do this?
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k-town_king said:
All that stuff isn't necessarily racist.

Your low brow steroetypical comments definitely are.
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You literally JUST stated earlier that it was racist because hiring managers don't hire blacks because they aren't good fits simply because of their race, with absolutely NO evidence
 
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allvol123 said:
That is my favorite, the overt racism by those that claim disdain for it.

BLM is literally a racist organization.
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Nah buddy don't even try it. No one but racists go for that "but you are the real racists" crap. There is a reason most of the country supports blm.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
First off, systemic is the word you're fumbling for.

Second... considering you have spent the past 45 days arguing against literally every single blatant example of its existence, I don't think anyone is going to be particularly motivated to do your homework for you. If you actually sought to understand in lieu of entrenching yourself in the notion that everyone has the exact same opportunity and pathways to success regardless of skin, then you might have a viable thread here. If you actually give two ****s, do your own research and listen instead of constantly running your mouth in denial that you inherently have it easier because your skin is white as rice.

In b4 "so you don't have examples."

There are tons, but it's not on me to show you something so obvious. My suggestion for you is to sit down with a person of color and listen. Stop running your mouth for once, and just ****ing listen.

My 2 cents. Good luck with your echo chamber thread. I'm sure justin will be along shortly to stroke your e-dick.
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Lol, DICKa didnt answer that question. Good deflection from the marxist group.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You literally JUST stated earlier that it was racist because hiring managers don't hire blacks because they aren't good fits simply because of their race, with absolutely NO evidence
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Those weren't my words.

There are many people in those types of positions that don't hire black people.

That does not mean every time someone black is not hired it's due to racism. That is just dumb.
 
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k-town_king said:
75% is a lie. Maybe there is a 75% unmarried rate. Two different things that racist like to use to manipulate the numbers.

Black fathers regardless of marriage status are more involved with their children then white men.

Going by your racist unmarried stat my kids didn't have a father because I never married their mom. Let's ignore that I was more involved than any married dad could be and one child is in med school and the other will be a computer programmer when he graduates. The same with plenty of people I know.

Maybe Hispanics are more religious. Black people are way more Christian and religious than white people . That is a statistical fact.
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I feel like my black friends that I still communicate with and the ones I grew up with for the most part are very religious. I'm not sure if in my experiences i would more, but at the very least equal.

I would love to see some statistics that prove you points you made above though.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
This is a bootstrap crowd. They feel that if one person can pull themselves up that all people have the ability to do so. Never mind the generations of poverty growing up in the projects. You need money, you commit a crime, you go to jail, you get out, can’t get a job, back to needing money. Rinse repeat over and over and over again. So yes, it’s systemic. And no, I don’t know the answer. The government, whether it be republican or Democrat, has **** all over these people and has done nothing to help alleviate the problem.
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So you're blaming the system who gives free education and money for not working, yet they dont teach steeling is wrong. That's pretty weak argument and excuse.
 
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k-town_king said:
Those weren't my words.

There are many people in those types of positions that don't hire black people.

That does not mean every time someone black is not hired it's due to racism. That is just dumb.
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This is what I'm talking about? How do you know this? How many? Who? Which companies? Why? you are just spouting off YOUR illogical beliefs
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Waiting for actual evidence, how about a list
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Yes I'm sure he can go to the list of companies that blatantly break federal law by explicitly stating they don't hire minorities.

It's not like a million companies haven't paid millions of dollars for proven discrimination.
 
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k-town_king said:
Yes I'm sure he can go to the list of companies that blatantly break federal law by explicitly stating they don't hire minorities.

It's not like a million companies haven't paid millions of dollars for proven discrimination.
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So you have nothing except your assumptions. "i just know there are hundreds of companies out there keeping the black people down by absolutely refusing to hire them just because they are black"
 
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k-town_king said:
Nah buddy don't even try it. No one but racists go for that "but you are the real racists" crap. There is a reason most of the country supports blm.[/QUOTE

lol, are you really this stupid? Majority of the country supports blm? Or the majority of the msnbc crowd? Talking sbout ignorant buddy
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Rickyvol77 said:
You literally JUST stated earlier that it was racist because hiring managers don't hire blacks because they aren't good fits simply because of their race, with absolutely NO evidence
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To this specifically. If a hiring manager thinks someone is not a good fit solely due to race it is racist.
 
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rjd970 said:
Whats the point if answering here if you aren’t going to accept it anyway? Even with the Floyd stuff and police brutality the best you can blame the officer, however can’t resist the “but” at the end.

I’ll give you an example, and I fully admit this is anecdotal, but you want examples.

I have a good friend who black. Doesn’t have a criminal record, is a part time teacher, part time tutor, and part time sound mixer for a small hip hop label. He drives a nice Lexus. On average and according to him he gets stopped by the police at least a few times a year, either while driving, or walking down the street with other black friends. A few times he has been searched, but most times it’s just to ask where he is going, what he is doing, etc.

I’m a 40-something white guy and I honestly can’t remember the last time I’ve been pulled over or stopped by the police for anything.

Now, I’m sure you are going to explain it away, and say obviously the police had some sort of reasonable cause to stop him...and maybe that is the case. But it’s odd that those reasonable causes never seem to get noticed with me, or maybe they are overlooked.

I take my anecdotal experience, and think to myself surely I’m not just that really lucky and my friend is just not that really unlucky, plus add in the criminal justice statistics, and sure....I can buy there is a systemic problem.

I’m not even bringing this up as an example of overt racism and I really don’t think it is. But there is something happening here, even if it is innocent. The problem and frustration is most times the ones doing it don’t or can’t notice they are.

Take that for what it’s worth, which is probably nothing with you.
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Interesting points. I’ll give you an example where we live that will support some of what you are saying. Germantown, TN is a notorious speed trap (and vast majority white) and you had better be doing 40 mph through there. If you are driving down Poplar Ave and you see somebody pulled over, 9 times out of 10, it’s a black person. Now I don’t know if they are just prone to speeding or if it’s mere coincidence, but it’s hard for me to believe there isn’t some profiling going on. Again, anecdotal evidence but one might consider that systemic racism.
 
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k-town_king said:
Good thing this was addressed too.

"The African-Americans who do become officers are often steered to specialize in logistics and transportation rather than the marquee combat arms specialties that lead to the top jobs.
Interviews with more than three dozen white, black and Hispanic service members and officers depict an entrenched and clubby system with near cement ceilings for minority groups."

So yes even the railroading into positions without room for advancement are part of the racism.
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36 people, hell of a sample size to base your entire opinion on.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I would like to get your opinion in something that deals with institutional racism. First deals with the United Negro College Fund. Now isn’t that, by its very name the definition of institutional racism? A fund dedicated to a color of people that excludes whites? Correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked there is no such thing as a United Caucasian College Fund. Also best in mind that black people are eligible to get virtually every other form of college aid that whites do.

Next is about employment. Now do you believe it’s easier for an employer to terminate a black or white person? Are there any fears whatsoever of firing either one? I know the answer to this but would love to know what you think.
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Bump for anyone who would like to answer.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Apparently only if you're white
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LOL

Now I will say from what I understand is that the infantry is the most sought out branch in the Army so only the top cadets get those assignments. But I've seen some armor and artillery officers that made me question how in the hell did they even get in.
 
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