JG’s Growth at QB

[preacherwebb]

To be clear, as I've posted before, I don't hate JG, I just don't have confidence that he can make the plays that will help us get to the next level. Simply based on what I've observed, it's his job to lose ... and he will, just like last year. The difference this year, is we may have an improved OL and young QB ready to take off. He may not get the job back this year.

That being said, I hope he starts every game, breaks every single game/season record, wins the Heisman and the National Championship simply because he's wearing the orange and power T.

That's not speaking out of both sides of my mouth, that's just being honest.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I can see that happening. But he seemed to be at his best last year coming off the bench and playing more aggressive by taking chunk routes. If he plays that way all year long he should be well over 3000 yds.

Yes, you're correct. If he can put up the numbers I posted then I would be quite pleased with our qb play.

 

[whodeycin85]

Then why does he have such a high completion percentage and touchdown to interception ratio. Your description is more Randy Sanders like than reality. He shouldn't have stats in the top 300 QBs based on your analysis.

Its not so much that his stats are bad...its the fact that they dont tell the whole story...also the fact that with a better team as a whole. He regressed...lower comp% and a lower td to int ratio....all while being barely playing against Bama,Uga, and FLA...

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

For the same reason he doesnt throw for a lot of yards or tds...because he wont throw the ball unless a wr is wide open.

It's also possible that those numbers are less simply because we are not a pass happy team and his opportunities to pass are less than others. There is a little unknown stat out there called yards per completion.

 

[sjt18]

I know folks like bashing JG on here but if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have won most of those games.

So just to be sure what you're saying... UT would NOT have won those games with Dobbs, Ainge, Bray, or any of hundreds of other names AND would have still lost the first two? No "bashing". Just a realistic, objective look at what he is and is not.

With the upcoming season upon us, do y'all see him making a jump his senior season.

No. He will improve in some marginal things IMO. The team will improve. But I'm convinced after his regression against VU and IU that he has innate inabilities that create a ceiling.

Im praying he finally puts it all together like Dobbs and Crompton did their senior seasons.[

Dobbs was good practically from the moment he stepped on the field and improved steadily. Crompton had shattered confidence. Hard to say what he might have been under different circumstances.

Also hearing JG gained 30 pounds this offseason. I just hope JG’s work ethic translates into wins.

I would love to share that hope but the last 3 years have given me no basis for it.

 

[1vol8]

It's also possible that those numbers are less simply because we are not a pass happy team and his opportunities to pass are less than others. There is a little unknown stat out there called yards per completion.

Not trying to attack you because you’re right. However, an offensive coordinator is just like any other coach. He’s going to call the plays that best suit his personnel for success and the play calling was noticeably different from one qb to the other last year.

 

[sjt18]

It's also possible that those numbers are less simply because we are not a pass happy team and his opportunities to pass are less than others.

If UT could pass the ball more... they would. If Chaney thought he could effectively move the ball passing... he'd pass. If Pruitt thought he could score points and keep the D off the field passing he would. You're attempting an argument from silence. Not surprising... or honest.

There is a little unknown stat out there called yards per completion.

Most here know it. JG's was more than a yard less on average than Maurer's.

 

[sjt18]

Not trying to attack you because you’re right. However, an offensive coordinator is just like any other coach. He’s going to call the plays that best suit his personnel for success and the play calling was noticeably different from one qb to the other last year.

It is undeniable that in the 4 games that both played "competitive" minutes UT threw more and more aggressively. He had significantly more yardage in those games total.

 

[1vol8]

It is undeniable that in the 4 games that both played "competitive" minutes UT threw more and more aggressively. He had significantly more yardage in those games total.

I’m assuming by “he” you mean Maurer over JG? Or JG over Maurer? Idk because I’ve never looked tbh.

My point is simply that Chaney’s play calling with Maurer was much more aggressive and pass heavy as opposed to with JG the play calling was much more grounded. We seen that example all season long. Maurer was unprepared to play vs UF but Chaney still called a pass on 13 plays in only 3 drives for him. It was a balanced attack vs UGA as well as MSU. When JG came in the play calling changed from an aggressive air attack to ground and pound. Vs UK Maurer basically only plays a quarter and 21 pass plays were called to JGs 10 or so in a half. No need to go through all the games but Chaney obviously felt differently about each of them.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Call me crazy but I think he's going to have a good year.

Cray- Cray

 

[Pride85]

Do you really think the people bashing him care about facts?

No. That is why my intent is to read and laugh from now on. The post I replied to was so far out of touch that I had to say something. I am a little cranky between the covid-19 (SAHRS-COVID-2 to be more precise) and the people trying to justify riots or the inexcusable action being used to try and justify it. I just need to relax and trust in the ONLY one that never changes.

 

[Volinnooga]

I'm not gonna debate you, but you're talking about the same guy who inexplicably called his own number at the goal line against Bama, and we all know how that turned out. He's still holding the ball too long, late on reads, and under throwing deep balls, like he always has. What you call growth, I call inconsistency, and flashes of what he could be if he were consistent. I'm sure he's a great guy and beloved in the locker room, and we all know he's tougher than a $2 steak ... I'll give you that. Lastly, I'm not an anonymous poster, my name is on everything I say.

Sure he's inconsistent but maturity isn't something that happens instantaneously. I am concerned as he still has a long way to go. But remember my response was to the question "what growth" and I believe he has unquestionably grown.

 

[LittleVol]

I can see that happening. But he seemed to be at his best last year coming off the bench and playing more aggressive by taking chunk routes. If he plays that way all year long he should be well over 3000 yds.

HAHAHAHAHA

Yeah....you know that's not going to happen.
But points for you trying to be positive about the kid.

 

[preacherwebb]

Sure he's inconsistent but maturity isn't something that happens instantaneously. I am concerned as he still has a long way to go. But remember my response was to the question "what growth" and I believe he has unquestionably grown.

You make my point for me. "He still has a long way to go" and he's a redshirt senior. He may have indeed grown as a person, but not as a QB.

You've stated what you believe. I've stated what I believe. I'm out.

 

[pimo1]

It seems like a waste of time, but here we go.

JG is an average to below average QB. There is a pile of evidence, but the most damning is the record. The eye test shows late reads, late throws, and some poor decision making. The number of 50/50 balls that were caught at Auburn 2 years ago, at Mizzou, and Ky...is astounding and a tribute to Palmer, Calloway, and Jennings. His deep ball is so poor, too many examples of underthrown passes to list.

Guts, he's got em
Desire, in spades
Attitude outside of the Georgia Dome seems to be on point.

But if the is 5% of our fan base left that believes he's the best option, I'd be shocked. That said...he was probably our safest option last year after Brian was injured for the 3rd time. All 3 qbs had terrible completion percentage.

We lost 2 unacceptable games to begin the year squarely on JG (imo)...Florida blew us out...on JG very poor 1st half, Bama goal line disaster on JG when we were competing....Georgia is not on him, but that was 1 quarter of fun and then a massacre.

The idea of putting it all together seems more unlikely than Compton's miracle season...we have the O-line...a vastly improving defense...experience backfield, and potential outside.

I wish JG well, I do not believe based on what I have seen that he will produce victories v the big 4

All of our QB's not named JG had terrible completion percentages.

If you honestly think that fumble is the difference between us winning and losing against Bama last year I want what you're smoking. even if we scored that TD we still get shellacked. Florida is the one game where JG flat out played really bad. Buy, you're calling two games against top 10 teams unacceptable losses on a team that to that point had lost to Ga State and BYU...at least you set a high bar.

Until someone else proves different JG is the best chance we have at winning games. He is an above-average to Good QB on the worst of days. His problem is he plays in the SEC where the margin for error is very slim as far as perception goes. the QB from USC who just transferred to UGA everyone is gushing about has very similar numbers to JG but he's seen as elite and JG a scrub.. kinda nuts.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

I know folks like bashing JG on here but if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have won most of those games. With the upcoming season upon us, do y'all see him making a jump his senior season. Im praying he finally puts it all together like Dobbs and Crompton did their senior seasons. Also hearing JG gained 30 pounds this offseason. I just hope JG’s work ethic translates into wins.

His main weaknesses are likely some that can't be improved. He has no anticipation skill whatsoever...not a bash, it's just one of those skills that is hard to develop. Kind of goes hand-in-hand with not having an ability to throw the receiver open. Can't learn it by practice. He also doesn't feel pressure. Another skill that is mostly instinctive and can't be learned by practice.

It's not bashing. He's a great kid who practices very hard but he's not big time QB material for a power 5 trying to get back into an elite class

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

I know folks like bashing JG on here but if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have won most of those games. With the upcoming season upon us, do y'all see him making a jump his senior season. Im praying he finally puts it all together like Dobbs and Crompton did their senior seasons. Also hearing JG gained 30 pounds this offseason. I just hope JG’s work ethic translates into wins.

Well one thing you can say about JG is that he is totally unpredictable.

He could progress nicely into a top SEC QB or he could regress to the backup spot. Or he could be about the same and get passed by HB or someone else.

I can only hope that we end up with several above averages QBs this season.

 

[photovol]

JG is a psychological experiment and I sure hope it works out...........too much thinking by JG and he gets into trouble

 

[OrangeSquid]

I'm not being mean, but ... what growth?

30 pounds is quite a bit of growth.

At least he should be able to to truck some people!!

He'll be 30 pounds slower though.

If we have to depend on JG, then I'm "Hoping" he goes lights out and is a Heisman candidate. Realistically, there isn't any previous or historical demonstration that my hopes won't be dashed.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

I'm not being mean, but ... what growth?

It's not mean. He regressed last year.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

I know folks like bashing JG on here but if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have won most of those games. With the upcoming season upon us, do y'all see him making a jump his senior season. Im praying he finally puts it all together like Dobbs and Crompton did their senior seasons. Also hearing JG gained 30 pounds this offseason. I just hope JG’s work ethic translates into wins.

Bunch of hot air right here. I think you need to go back and watch some games, starting with Indiana.

 

[BigO95]

30 pounds is quite a bit of growth.
He'll be 30 pounds slower though.

If we have to depend on JG, then I'm "Hoping" he goes lights out and is a Heisman candidate. Realistically, there isn't any previous or historical demonstration that my hopes won't be dashed.

Perhaps the lights come on and possibly another year with Chaney and Weinke? Anyway, I wish nothing but the best for all our quarterbacks. I'm not saying that the lights will come on but I hope they do.
I'm sure the coaches will play the best man to put the program in the best position to win this year and beyond.

 

[lexkyvol]

One thing I know for sure the coaches tried to give the job to BM but kid was to fragile last year. To me if he can stay healthy to me he is the starter especially if he has a good fall camp. Dont get me wrong I like JG, he just has not been able to take his arm talent and translate to his Head. Philippians 4:6-7

bwahahaahahaaaa! his health had NOTHING to do with him throwing the ball to the other team

 

[RAVOL]

bwahahaahahaaaa! his health had NOTHING to do with him throwing the ball to the other team

It was his health. The coaches knew through practice his gunslinger mentality but chose him because of his Moxie even coming back to him in Alabama game.

 

[1vol8]

It was his health. The coaches knew through practice his gunslinger mentality but chose him because of his Moxie even coming back to him in Alabama game.

Don’t waste your time. Lexkyvol is a Maurer hater so he doesn’t do reasonable.