Personal Anecdotes - Political Addition

[Orangeburst]

You know, I've seen van Halen and van hagar. I'll take the early 80's van Halen for the impeachment bash .

I never saw them. They came to Nooga in like 1981 or so and there was an actual organized campaign to stop them. I only ever listened to early stuff and after 1984 never bought another album. I still kick VH1, II and WACF.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I never saw them. They came to Nooga in like 1981 or so and there was an actual organized campaign to stop them. I only ever listened to early stuff and after 1984 never bought another album. I still kick VH1, II and WACF.

Saw them in 84, if memory serves, cause you know the 80's. Really good concert. Was doing some rhodie work for a band that booked local. They were pretty reminiscent of a steroetypical hair band but we had allot of fun!!! Guys from my high school and idiots to boot. I'm convinced I was there to keep them out of jail.
We have a radio station here that plays most of what my playlist would be. I do music during cleaning sometimes, it just makes it less painful
I had to laugh at the fact nooga was trying to stop them from coming but being in the bible belt, I believe it.

 

[midnight orange]

I was a GWB supporting neo-con. My path diverged by reading columns from writers such as Thomas Sowell (whom I don’t think is good on foreign policy) and Walter Williams. I stumbled upon The Americans: The Colonial Experience, The Americans: The National Experience, and The Americans: The Democratic Experience by Daniel J. Boorstin. This book presents a different view of progress in the U.S.A. Progress occurs in spite of the government, not because of the government. It was John Deere, Willis Carrier, Henry Ford, the Wright Bros, IBM, etc who built the country and improved lives and productivity, not Uncle Sam. The last politician I voted for was Ron Paul. Ron Paul was a true Constitutionalist unlike any politician I had ever seen. I saw the self- proclaimed Constitutional conservatives come together in a united front to defeat this man. I took from this that both parties are basically the same tool for the moneyed interests with slightly different marketing strategies. A mind blowing book that took me where I now am is Walter Block’s Defending the Undefendable.

 

[vols40]

Yea, but the impeachment blowout party would be killer with Van Halen.

Free ink pens as party favors?

 

[utvolpj]

John Adams doc on hbo led me down a path of reading biographies of the founding fathers. Those lead you to other writings that are referenced and down the rabbit hole you go. While I do question the motivation of some of the ff's I believe their system would work. We are so far away from the original vision which now drives my political leanings

I need to get back to reading those books again. Wanted to do one of all presidents but kept getting sidetracked. For example, can you study the time period without reading about Franklin?

 

[Orangeburst]

John Adams doc on hbo led me down a path of reading biographies of the founding fathers. Those lead you to other writings that are referenced and down the rabbit hole you go. While I do question the motivation of some of the ff's I believe their system would work. We are so far away from the original vision which now drives my political leanings

I need to get back to reading those books again. Wanted to do one of all presidents but kept getting sidetracked. For example, can you study the time period without reading about Franklin?

Excellent series. Would watch it again but never see it on. Would of thought another network would pick it up.

 

[midnight orange]

John Adams doc on hbo led me down a path of reading biographies of the founding fathers. Those lead you to other writings that are referenced and down the rabbit hole you go. While I do question the motivation of some of the ff's I believe their system would work. We are so far away from the original vision which now drives my political leanings

I need to get back to reading those books again. Wanted to do one of all presidents but kept getting sidetracked. For example, can you study the time period without reading about Franklin?

Have you read Murray Rothbard’s Conceived in Liberty? It is meticulously researched 5 volume series that paints the war as a true revolution based on freedom and natural rights. He also portrays the Constitutional Committee and the Constitution in a more nefarious way than what your average high- school text book teaches. He does not have many kind words for Ben Franklin who seems to have been somewhat of a charlatan.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Wah

I see your "wah" and raise it a *garglegargle*

 

[NorthDallas40]

Saw them in 84, if memory serves, cause you know the 80's. Really good concert. Was doing some rhodie work for a band that booked local. They were pretty reminiscent of a steroetypical hair band but we had allot of fun!!! Guys from my high school and idiots to boot. I'm convinced I was there to keep them out of jail.
We have a radio station here that plays most of what my playlist would be. I do music during cleaning sometimes, it just makes it less painful
I had to laugh at the fact nooga was trying to stop them from coming but being in the bible belt, I believe it.

The Van Halen of our youth is gone forever. Roth just doesn’t have it anymore. Sammy was great and I loved their music but I’ve always thought of them as a totally separate act with their own sound. They sound like Sammy Hagar with a really good backing band. Not Van Halen.

 

[utvolpj]

Have you read Murray Rothbard’s Conceived in Liberty? It is meticulously researched 5 volume series that paints the war as a true revolution based on freedom and natural rights. He also portrays the Constitutional Committee and the Constitution in a more nefarious way than what your average high- school text book teaches. He does not have many kind words for Ben Franklin who seems to have been somewhat of a charlatan.

I haven't read that. I do know that the noble reasons for revolution that we were taught were definitely written by the victors.

Charlatan may be a bit harsh. I think he liked interjecting his ideas but never really wanted to get his hands dirty. He also liked the show

 

[midnight orange]

I haven't read that. I do know that the noble reasons for revolution that we were taught were definitely written by the victors.

Charlatan may be a bit harsh. I think he liked interjecting his ideas but never really wanted to get his hands dirty. He also liked the show

I’ll just say that he is the reason the post office is in the Constitution and he had a thriving stamp printing and newspaper business.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

The Van Halen of our youth is gone forever. Roth just doesn’t have it anymore. Sammy was great and I loved their music but I’ve always thought of them as a totally separate act with their own sound. They sound like Sammy Hagar with a really good backing band. Not Van Halen.

Same feeling, saw hagar on his own too, great concert. Agree with being two different bands.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Grew up in rich Republican family. Joined the military. After 9/11 all the Bush haters suddenly became gay or conscientious objectors and tried to get kicked out. Solidified my belief that democrats were useless and hated America.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

My Papaw was a die-hard Democrat. It did not matter who was running as a DEM, that person received his vote. Naturally, my father was raised in the ways of my grandfather and voted DEM but that all changed after the 1992 election. My father for whatever reason was done with the DEM party after voting for Clinton in 1992. During the 1996 election, Dad switched to R and voted for Dole.

My Dad took me over to my Papaw’s home often for dinner & game night. We always had a great time & those were some of my favorite childhood memories. In short, I blurted out that Dad was voting for Dole in the upcoming election one night when we were visiting. I did not really care much about politics at age 12, it was not a big deal to me. The look on Papaw’s face was a look of horror. My Dad stared at me and silently said, “I am in deep sh!t now.” They argued the rest of the evening and did not speak to one another for a few weeks. Luckily, time heals wounds and things returned to normal. I learned that evening that family & friendships are more important than political affiliations. Don’t let politics get in the way of what truly matters.

 

[GVF]

My political views are re-shaping at this very moment.

Life is life so won't go into what has gone on in recent years. But, Tuesday, my brother took my mom to hospital (in her 80's). Wednesday she clinically died twice. Once for over 20 minutes. Still hanging on by a thread. He was not allowed past the entry door to walk our 82 year old feeble mother to the ER. We are not allowed to visit her or set foot in hospital, even though she has legally died twice and keeps reviving. We are relegated to update calls. So, yeah I'm pissed about some things today. This BS constitutionally violated game in politics over this BS virus, and the fearmongering they used to suppress the rights of the general American public is violating our right to be with our mother. Did I mention I'm pissed about some things today? You give me a Rand Paul quality 3rd party in any Federal, State, or Local election I'm qualified to vote in and I'll show you a new 3rd party voter. The easiest way to cut down a big tree is to first saw off all the branches.

 

[LouderVol]

My political views are re-shaping at this very moment.

Life is life so won't go into what has gone on in recent years. But, Tuesday, my brother took my mom to hospital (in her 80's). Wednesday she clinically died twice. Once for over 20 minutes. Still hanging on by a thread. He was not allowed past the entry door to walk our 82 year old feeble mother to the ER. We are not allowed to visit her or set foot in hospital, even though she has legally died twice and keeps reviving. We are relegated to update calls. So, yeah I'm pissed about some things today. This BS constitutionally violated game in politics over this BS virus, and the fearmongering they used to suppress the rights of the general American public is violating our right to be with our mother. Did I mention I'm pissed about some things today? You give me a Rand Paul quality 3rd party in any Federal, State, or Local election I'm qualified to vote in and I'll show you a new 3rd party voter. The easiest way to cut down a big tree is to first saw off all the branches.

Not to devolve this thread but you got Amash.

 

[McDad]

Not to devolve this thread but you got Amash.

You think I can convince his team to make use of the venerable Halloween song, Monster Mash, as part of his campaign branding?

"MonstAmash" logo with the song playing at rallies is a gift wrapped opportunity.

 

[LouderVol]

You think I can convince his team to make use of the venerable Halloween song, Monster Mash, as part of his campaign branding?

"MonstAmash" logo with the song playing at rallies is a gift wrapped opportunity.

you bring it up to his TN team, and I will do the same with the GA team. when they get together and powwow they will have no choice.

 

[zeppelin128]

My earliest political memory was my Dad being hard core about Ross Perrot. I was also at a car show in West Tennessee when I was a kid and Bill did his bus tour. I remember seeing all the buses go by and waving at them, I thought it was cool cause it was the President.

 

[KB5252]

I was a GWB supporting neo-con. My path diverged by reading columns from writers such as Thomas Sowell (whom I don’t think is good on foreign policy) and Walter Williams. I stumbled upon The Americans: The Colonial Experience, The Americans: The National Experience, and The Americans: The Democratic Experience by Daniel J. Boorstin. This book presents a different view of progress in the U.S.A. Progress occurs in spite of the government, not because of the government. It was John Deere, Willis Carrier, Henry Ford, the Wright Bros, IBM, etc who built the country and improved lives and productivity, not Uncle Sam. The last politician I voted for was Ron Paul. Ron Paul was a true Constitutionalist unlike any politician I had ever seen. I saw the self- proclaimed Constitutional conservatives come together in a united front to defeat this man. I took from this that both parties are basically the same tool for the moneyed interests with slightly different marketing strategies. A mind blowing book that took me where I now am is Walter Block’s Defending the Undefendable.

I've felt this way about both parties since Bush 2. I realized that nether party is really any different from the other in actions, only rhetoric and that's so predictable even old faithful is embarrassed.

 

[zeppelin128]

When I first started to care about politics, I followed my Dad. He was a former Democrat, pissed off enough to vote for Perot twice. I actually voted for Bush in my high school mock election. But when I started to listen and pay attention, I understood. Conservatives want to control. They like to talk about freedom and whatever. But that isn't what they care about. They only want to control.

 

[vol66]

I don’t participate in this forum often, because I don’t wanna fight.

That said, this is an interesting thread so thanks to the OP.

I tend to believe that both major parties are/have fallen flat.

I voted for Ross Perot, but it was just a protest really, I was young. Since then, I have been an independent, but have voted for both dems and reps.

This time around I voted for Warren in the primary, I would have voted for Bernie and I guess if Biden and Trump are the choices, I guess I will go Biden.

Over the years, having buried most of my family, I came to the conclusion that, simply put, we don’t, as a country, need to cash in on people’s misery.

At a time like this, that is especially true, and transparency is important. I will vote accordingly both nationally and locally.

 

[LouderVol]

Another event that weighed heavily on my current political leanings was Obama's 2008 campaign. It was the first one I could have voted in.

I was in our high schools political debate club as a senior in the spring, and having gone thru several of these debates I was kinda feeling like I knew what was going on.

I was on the conservative side and had some friends on the democrats side. The debates were pretty formulaic in nature. A couple foreign policy questions to start, a couple national issues, and then on to general or local issues. I dont think Obama had been selected yet as we were talking about all the front runners.

Every previous debate had been actual debates, with points, facts, newspaper clippings (no smart phones). There was always some sniping or snide comments but nothing bad, the teachers kept a pretty tight reign.

The first question was about foreign policy and we explained our issues about Hilarys foreign policy and why she shouldnt be president, and finished with something like "Obama has stated similar beliefs to Hilary, so we also think this is a reason he shouldn't be president".

And the rebuttal was essentially that we were racists. Most of the rest of the debate went that way. Here is Hilarys stance we dont like, here is Obama's stance we dont like. Racist. This was my first experience with SJWs. The only real debate was about healthcare.

That soured me a good bit, but then the debate carried into the rest of the school year, our little group of political friends broke apart. And I was really shocked when the conservatives in the group eventually did boil down to being racist. The reasoning was essentially "If they are going to call me racist I might as well be racist". Like it was some type of justification.

I found it to be ridiculous. But sadly it seemed to reflect what I saw in real life. People who had never once mentioned Obama's skin color became focused on it after a couple months of being called racist for not voting for him simply because he was black.

I dont think either sides ideology is racist, i dont even think the people who represent either party or the majority of either party are racist. But that election was the first i saw of it becoming an issue. Outside of my anecdote i dont know who fired the first shot, if it was baseless Dems like my debate, or a response to actual racist. Chicken or egg i didnt care it was equally disgusting by both sides.

That's what got me thinking the two party system was just different sides of the coin. I saw the same message come out from both sides.

 

[GVF]

When I first started to care about politics, I followed my Dad. He was a former Democrat, pissed off enough to vote for Perot twice. I actually voted for Bush in my high school mock election. But when I started to listen and pay attention, I understood. Conservatives want to control. They like to talk about freedom and whatever. But that isn't what they care about. They only want to control.

I have found that to very 100% true of Democrats as well.

 

[hog88]

Growing up I was a far left wing Dem, then sometime in 2016 I saw some facebook memes and my whole world changed.