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Coach Jumper said:
same thing happened here,,,and then they realize it is still about coaches
we had to figure that out too
But I think we got one now
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Holly provided continuity. They already knew her. It's not like she just appeared all of a sudden. Ivey has been busy with the NBA for the last year, so she was out of the picture for most of the player courting.
 
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Amb3096 said:
Holly provided continuity. They already knew her. It's not like she just appeared all of a sudden. Ivey has been busy with the NBA for the last year, so she was out of the picture for most of the player courting.
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Can‘t discount the current success (excluding this past season) as a factor for the most recent verbals.
 
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Nortre Dame is still "a big name" in women's college ball....Their brand was all the talk just the year before last....Ivey is feasting off their recent sterling reputation, just as she should...

Sonia is from New York and her favorite player is Candace....But, that does not mean she wants to go play where Candace played.

Under Holly's watch, the LV brand lost a lot of national luster, just the way it is guys...Hopefully, Kellie can bring back some shine to the Lady Vol brand.
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Amb3096 said:
Right, but then there was a coaching change. Ivey wasn't involved in the recruiting, so her getting them to commit to ND so soon after is pretty impressive.
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Ivey was only gone for a year so I am pretty sure she was in on recruiting her during her freshman/sophomore years. It is impressive no doubt but unless Ivey just starting recruiting her this week. Then I would think Ivey was in on her earlier w/ ND.
 
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GameTime said:
Nortre Dame is still "a big name" in women's college ball....Their brand was all the talk just the year before last....Ivey is feasting off their recent sterling reputation, just as she should...

Sonia is from New York and her favorite player is Candace....But, that does not mean she wants to go play where Candace played.

Under Holly's watch, the LV brand lost a lot of national luster, just the way it is guys...Hopefully, Kellie can bring back some shine to the Lady Vol brand.
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How was Holly able to reel in Top 2 ranked players such as Horston, Russell and Westbrook and Top 10 players such as Reynolds, Cooper, Hayes, and Davis? Wasn't recruiting one of Kellie's flaws when she was the coach at NC State?
 
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GameTime said:
Nortre Dame is still "a big name" in women's college ball....Their brand was all the talk just the year before last....Ivey is feasting off their recent sterling reputation, just as she should...

Sonia is from New York and her favorite player is Candace....But, that does not mean she wants to go play where Candace played.

Under Holly's watch, the LV brand lost a lot of national luster, just the way it is guys...Hopefully, Kellie can bring back some shine to the Lady Vol brand.
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Holly could recruit, that wasn’t her problem. She sold the Lady Vol program well. Y’all can say what you want about Holly, but she routinely landed big time recruits. As for Kellie, I’m not convinced we will ever land any big time recruits under her. I hope I’m wrong, but she NEVER has and until she does, my mind won’t be changed.🤷🏾‍♀️
 
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Terrells Bay88 said:
How was Holly able to reel in Top 2 ranked players such as Horston, Russell and Westbrook and Top 10 players such as Reynolds, Cooper, Hayes, and Davis? Wasn't recruiting one of Kellie's flaws when she was the coach at NC State?
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Literally just said the same thing. Holly and staff were great recruiters. Saw it first hand with the recruitment of my cousin Sug. They were relentless and very personable. I’ve never seen Kellie land any big time recruit.
 
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superfly said:
Since this is a "non" lady vol posting place...I was unaware that we (South Carolina) had 7 first round draft picks in the last 5 years...while the entire rest of the SEC ladies had only 5...total....That is some eye opening stats to take to recruits.....
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Thats so crazy I looked it up and I guess I would of thought you guys were in the lead for the past 5 years but UConn leads that category with 9 in the last five drafts. Still impressive though and looks really good to recruits.
 
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Amb3096 said:
It's amazing how quick she's getting it done on the recruiting trail. Vic, I understand. He's probably been in these players' ears all year, but Ivey was out of the college game for a year and has picked right back up as if she never left. Impressive!
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This young lady can ball
 
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gule said:
geno still the best, again! lol
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You only had one thing and that got blown out of the water this year...lol. Dawn has proven to be a great coach in every respect but your cognitive dissonance mind set (or just plain jealousy) just keeps you floating in the Sea of Delusion. Must be awful hard for you to be you.....or anyone to be with you.
 
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stlvolsfan said:
Literally just said the same thing. Holly and staff were great recruiters. Saw it first hand with the recruitment of my cousin Sug. They were relentless and very personable. I’ve never seen Kellie land any big time recruit.
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Holly, at first, was considered an extension of Pat, who was the REAL star of Tennessee recruiting -- even after she'd passed. But Holly's problem was -- and recruits didn't know it until it was too late -- that she wasn't head coach material. Only after they'd each heard the phrase "I don't know" 20 times did they finally start to realize that, well, she actually DIDN'T. It was plain to see reality set in for each of those highly-ranked players as, one by one, the excitement of playing at Tennessee drained right out of them.

I'll always believe that recruits deeply wanted to believe that playing for Holly would be the next-best-thing to playing for Pat, everyone's actual reason at that time for wanting to come to Tennessee -- to breathe that air that, for a while, still was in the program. But over time they were each disillusioned enough to check out nearly altogether toward the ends of their careers. It was the saddest thing to watch, over and over again, that I've ever seen sports-wise.

But now we have Kellie, and I sure would like to see everyone give her a chance to build confidence with recruits. Holly inherited a program that was hurting and struggling to get back to Final Fours, but Kellie inherited a program that was struggling to reach the NCAA Tournament, period.

It's apples to oranges, and so Kellie deserves way more time to prove her mettle before giving up on her. I fully believe she has it in her.
 
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gule said:
hook line and sinker! too easy....
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No it's not.....you keep saying that so......you either don't mean what you say and you know that Dawn has proven to be a great coach...or you are just trying to dodge the return remarks. I don't have to live with you and your silly ways....lol...I told you I felt sorry for your wife and mother-in-law for having to be stuck in a confined space with you....but you saw it as you were the unlucky one...trust me...theirs was the burden....
 
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lvocd said:
Holly, at first, was considered an extension of Pat, who was the REAL star of Tennessee recruiting -- even after she'd passed. But Holly's problem was -- and recruits didn't know it until it was too late -- that she wasn't head coach material. Only after they'd each heard the phrase "I don't know" 20 times did they finally start to realize that, well, she actually DIDN'T. It was plain to see reality set in for each of those highly-ranked players as, one by one, the excitement of playing at Tennessee drained right out of them.

I'll always believe that recruits deeply wanted to believe that playing for Holly would be the next-best-thing to playing for Pat, everyone's actual reason at that time for wanting to come to Tennessee -- to breathe that air that, for a while, still was in the program. But over time they were each disillusioned enough to check out nearly altogether toward the ends of their careers. It was the saddest thing to watch, over and over again, that I've ever seen sports-wise.

But now we have Kellie, and I sure would like to see everyone give her a chance to build confidence with recruits. Holly inherited a program that was hurting and struggling to get back to Final Fours, but Kellie inherited a program that was struggling to reach the NCAA Tournament, period.

It's apples to oranges, and so Kellie deserves way more time to prove her mettle before giving up on her. I fully believe she has it in her.
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I was dismayed by CHW from the gitgo, even posting my ititial post to fire her,,,but on year five, when she had all HER own recruits and chosen staff, did I begin to give her the benefit if the doubt again... Members here accused me of flipping. . . But my feeling was if she was going to succeed it would have to be by year 5 bc with that year, all influences of Pat Summitt would be gone. And all excuses were used up in years 1-4.

For Coach K it won't be that many years for me to make up my mind.
She inherited a fine nucleus.
She cleaned out the prior staff from day one, so no residual staff uncertainties
She was following a much weaker coaching staff and HC than did Holly so instead of players measuring her by Pat,, they measure her by Holly.

I give Coach K four years to bring this university back to top 5 status
It is what I would give myself given the above influences and it is fair to give her the same
To give her less than four is unfair unless the program goes into immediate backwards slide and I see no indication of this right now

The things I expect to see bettered this year,,,are not as much win-loss stats as much as growth in areas in which I saw no growth with CHW's tenure
namely:
  • Better progression of the players individual skills and play, both, in and off season
  • Advancement in game calling (timeouts, subbing with purpose and not just to give everybody PT,, stagnation of offense in movement and scoring,, accountability, but not punishment for correctable situations on the floor,,,things like unforced turnovers and aloof play)
  • More focus on "can't miss" recruits (not every recruit with a galaxy of stars behind their name are desired...but certain known recruits are without question players we need to get no matter what the need is).
To give a finality grade to Coach K now is to be incomplete in assessment. She has her own perception of needs that she is filling right now and I agree with the players taken (Salary is an athletic guard of the Jordan mold, Tess is a shooter, Keyen is a banger, Marta is a good in-the-arc ballhandler who can stretch the defense...three of these can help with the ballhandling on bringdowns)...I do see a need for a grad-transfer backup PG but if we are scouting and recruiting to fill this need next year with the likes of a Brooklynn Miles type I am ok with going into the season as we are so Jordan can have the same chance Jaz had to bloom.
 
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superfly said:
No it's not.....you keep saying that so......you either don't mean what you say and you know that Dawn has proven to be a great coach...or you are just trying to dodge the return remarks. I don't have to live with you and your silly ways....lol...I told you I felt sorry for your wife and mother-in-law for having to be stuck in a confined space with you....but you saw it as you were the unlucky one...trust me...theirs was the burden....
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He's aggravating you and you're falling for it
it's juust "gule being gule"
Like "Manny being Manny"
 
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superfly said:
No it's not.....you keep saying that so......you either don't mean what you say and you know that Dawn has proven to be a great coach...or you are just trying to dodge the return remarks. I don't have to live with you and your silly ways....lol...I told you I felt sorry for your wife and mother-in-law for having to be stuck in a confined space with you....but you saw it as you were the unlucky one...trust me...theirs was the burden....
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LOL you know a response is all he wants😂

Do you REALLY think he doesn’t see Dawn as a successful coach? Lol... he just knows he can get your goat by saying those things.
 
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