Coronavirus (No politics)

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#3,901
VolnJC said:
I know they are low population but the 7 states that didn't lock down fared better than the ones that did
South Dakota Has “Flattened the Curve” Without Shutting Down
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I think this begins to be the difference between mandated social distancing and elective social distancing. South Dakota may not have a mandate, but they got to almost the same levels of mobility as locked down states and did so roughly at the same time. Also, as you note because of their lower population, that leaves them with one of the lowest relative "encounter densities" in the country.

Mandates aren't necessary if everyone social distances anyway. However, I would argue that only a certain degree of social distancing will happen organically. Depending on your population density, you might need policies to drive it deeper in an attempt to stop the spread.

You can see it here (both mobility and encounter density, by state).

Covid-19 Social Distancing Scoreboard — Unacast
 
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Tennessee COVID update
More testing another 10k tests today with 96% of those being negative. The majority of cases (46%) are from Davidson and Shelby, with the Bledsoe prison and out of state cases totaling another 10%. East Tennessee still looking good for reopening under 100 active cases for the 12 central valley counties.
141,206 completed tests (94% negative)
9,189 total cases (56% are in Davidson, Bledsoe, and Shelby counties)
4,467 recovered 49%
4,544 active
178 deaths 1.9%
East Tennessee active cases (90)
Knox County 24
Roane County 0
Loudon County 6
Anderson County 7
Blount County 9
Campbell County 0
Sevier County 17
Jefferson County 4
Grainger County 0
Cocke County 2
Hamblen County 7
Greene County 14
That's a total of only 90 active cases for the 12 Central valley counties.
 
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So much for social distancing in Georgia now. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware & Walmart packed worse than black Friday shopping with no waiting outside the stores. Get ready for the next shutdown which will be longer and more drastic.
 
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Zues1 said:
So if buying a gun they allow you into the store. Got anymore details?
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***RoadVol*** said:
So much for social distancing in Georgia now. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware & Walmart packed worse than black Friday shopping with no waiting outside the stores. Get ready for the next shutdown which will be longer and more drastic.
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Yep it’s going to spike dramatically here in May
 
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#3,907
***RoadVol*** said:
So much for social distancing in Georgia now. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware & Walmart packed worse than black Friday shopping with no waiting outside the stores. Get ready for the next shutdown which will be longer and more drastic.
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Fingers crossed if there are new cases, they will be manageable.
 
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headhunter15 said:
Fingers crossed if there are new cases, they will be manageable.
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One thing I'm noticing in TN more general testing and of course more cases but they seem to be minor..which makes sense with the asymptomatic free drive by tests...so that's a good thing and hopefully they will continue testing throughout the spring until the antibody tests are more readily available
 
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VolnJC said:
One thing I'm noticing in TN more general testing and of course more cases but they seem to be minor..which makes sense with the asymptomatic free drive by tests...so that's a good thing and hopefully they will continue testing throughout the spring until the antibody tests are more readily available
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The problem is going to be sick people not self qauranting unless they are made to. They will still go out in public and spread it.
 
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***RoadVol*** said:
So much for social distancing in Georgia now. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware & Walmart packed worse than black Friday shopping with no waiting outside the stores. Get ready for the next shutdown which will be longer and more drastic.
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Get ready for the next empty warning from know-nothings, which will be louder and more dramatic.
 
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***RoadVol*** said:
The problem is going to be sick people not self qauranting unless they are made to. They will still go out in public and spread it.
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Sounds like you should self-quarantine and let other people get on with their lives. We flattened the curve, built resources, and prevented hospital overflow. Time to get on with life while being socially responsible.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm for sure real worried about a disease with what's proving to be a sub-1% mortality rate.
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Not only that, it is trending towards .001% as new data emerges. The lunacy of leadership in this country at all levels, and the gullibility of those that follow mindlessly, is becoming more dumbfounding by the minute.
 
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I'm eagerly awaiting the evidence of financial donations, food donations, volunteering, delivery of food, or other help provided to those out of work or with shut down livelihoods from those bleating for continued economic shutdowns.

Put up or shut up, please.
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
Not only that, it is trending towards .001% as new data emerges. The lunacy of leadership in this country at all levels, and the gullibility of those that follow mindlessly, is becoming more dumbfounding by the minute.
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Which data are suggesting a trend towards .001%? The lancet paper that established 0.66% came out a month ago. And we are still right around that range (New York antibody testing right on top of it, California suggesting more like 2-3 times lower).
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm eagerly awaiting the evidence of financial donations, food donations, volunteering, delivery of food, or other help provided to those out of work or with shut down livelihoods from those bleating for continued economic shutdowns.

Put up or shut up, please.
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It doesn't seem to me that saying sick people will likely be out and about is rooting for continued economic shutdown. Opinions on what will transpire can be fully separated from hopes about what would transpire. Wanting folks to return to work while recognizing that a second wave is likely is more logical (and making an ethical judgement of risk vs. reward) than convincing yourself that sick people will stay at home just because one wants the economy reopened.
 
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TennTradition said:
Which data are suggesting a trend towards .001%? The lancet paper that established 0.66% came out a month ago. And we are still right around that range (New York antibody testing right on top of it, California suggesting more like 2-3 times lower).
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My bad. I did not distinguish between the numerical representation of .0014 and 0.14%. Isn't that what the USC study derived and stated, between 0.14% and 0.28% estimate?
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Yep it’s going to spike dramatically here in May
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We can't stay shut down forever because we're afraid people will get it. The goal of shutting down was to flatten the curve, not to bring infections to zero. Flattening the curve simply implies not overwhelming the healthcare system with too many infections at once.

In most parts of the state, it seems we have succeeded in that given that most hospitals are complete ghost towns. It's something that will be monitored closely each and every day. Testing is getting better and better every single day. If the time comes where a shut down is needed state wide, then it'll be done. Until then, there's no reason to keep every county on lockdown when most don't have very many cases.
 
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TennTradition said:
Which data are suggesting a trend towards .001%? The lancet paper that established 0.66% came out a month ago. And we are still right around that range (New York antibody testing right on top of it, California suggesting more like 2-3 times lower).
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I assume he is referring to a rate for younger people such as under 60. Given the death rate using actual positive tests and extrapolating out for people that do not bother getting tested because they are generally asymptomatic (or close enough not to bother getting tested), I think it is pretty clear that it is a very, very low death rate for younger people.

I know you have been studying the numbers carefully so interested in your thoughts if people older than 60 are discounted. Would you agree that the death rate appears to be basically like the flu for people under 60 based on recent data?
 
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TennTradition said:
It doesn't seem to me that saying sick people will likely be out and about is rooting for continued economic shutdown. Opinions on what will transpire can be fully separated from hopes about what would transpire. Wanting folks to return to work while recognizing that a second wave is likely is more logical (and making an ethical judgement of risk vs. reward) than convincing yourself that sick people will stay at home just because one wants the economy reopened.
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What are you reading, then?

You've got people in the posts just above yours complaining that we're going to see some big second wave and people all over social media everywhere demanding that people stay at home still. Whether they're rooting for economic shutdown or not is totally irrelevant- continuing on our current course is an economic shutdown, and there's no argument that can be made otherwise.

I'm not even sure why you responded to my post. I fully believe people that want a continued shutdown and stay at home orders must be financially stable, so they should be able to donate and support those in need because of our slowed economic state.
 
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ButchPlz said:
What are you reading, then?

You've got people in the posts just above yours complaining that we're going to see some big second wave and people all over social media everywhere demanding that people stay at home still. Whether they're rooting for economic shutdown or not is totally irrelevant- continuing on our current course is an economic shutdown, and there's no argument that can be made otherwise.

I'm not even sure why you responded to my post. I fully believe people that want a continued shutdown and stay at home orders must be financially stable, so they should be able to donate and support those in need because of our slowed economic state.
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or incentivized to stay home by the government...
 
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