'19 CA QB JT Daniels (Georgia commit)

[PlanetVolunteer]

Do you understand the difference between a prediction and a past event?

FWIW, to give JG a great deal of credit for those 8 wins... is a massive stretch. Had the D and OL not improved significantly over the year, Vandy and IU would have been losses. JG threw as poorly in those two games as he did early in the season and maybe even worse.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt because it was raining, but lord almighty that Indiana game. I thought he had finally turned the corner because he had three good games in a row. How he, after playing well in three games in a row struggled that hard against an INDIANA defense that was really nothing special after a month to prepare is beyond all reason.

 

[sjt18]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt because it was raining, but lord almighty that Indiana game. I thought he had finally turned the corner because he had three good games in a row. How he, after playing well in three games in a row struggled that hard against an INDIANA defense that was really nothing special after a month to prepare is beyond all reason.

The announcer nailed it when he said JG had to "see it" before throwing it. Some DC's have not gameplanned as effectively as others but you can be certain that they KNOW JG processes reads too slow and is not good at anticipating throws.

But when you consider he has never led a UT O to 30 points in a game against an FBS opponent... most teams have found ways to limit UT's O with him at QB.

 

[1974Vol]

Here's JG in a nutshell. Start watching at the 13:00 minute mark. Misses Callaway for the TD on a high and behind the receiver throw and then on 4th down has Wood-Anderson wide open early and per usual is late with the throw and doesn't leave the TE enough room in the back of the end zone to go get the ball. Then at the 1:26:30 mark is the Pick Six. Watch until the 1:29:30 mark when the commentator explains what happens. Late throw behind the receiver. If JG throws a nano-second earlier and leads Jennings to the sideline it’s a big play. Particularly so as the underneath coverage has broken on the ball and Jennings would have been one on one with the corner in open field. The thing that is killing us with JG IMHO just can't be fixed. He knows where to go with the ball he just doesn't have the innate instinct to throw the ball on time and where the receiver is going not where he is. That can’t be fixed by watching film, running routes on air, or anything else I know of. But JG still gets the starts because he has stayed relatively healthy and can at least get us in and out of the huddle and Bama gaffe aside usually gets us in the right play – he just can’t consistently execute it.

 

[UTSuave’]

The announcer nailed it when he said JG had to "see it" before throwing it. Some DC's have not gameplanned as effectively as others but you can be certain that they KNOW JG processes reads too slow and is not good at anticipating throws.

But when you consider he has never led a UT O to 30 points in a game against an FBS opponent... most teams have found ways to limit UT's O with him at QB.

It doesn’t help when the SOB doesn’t throw past the sticks either and when he does it’s in the damn dirt or behind them.hes way too inconsistent

 

[butchna]

It doesn’t help when the SOB doesn’t throw past the sticks either and when he does it’s in the damn dirt or behind them.hes way too inconsistent

Why “SOB” tho?

 

[UTSuave’]

Here's JG in a nutshell. Start watching at the 13:00 minute mark. Misses Callaway for the TD on a high and behind the receiver throw and then on 4th down has Wood-Anderson wide open early and per usual is late with the throw and doesn't leave the TE enough room in the back of the end zone to go get the ball. Then at the 1:26:30 mark is the Pick Six. Watch until the 1:29:30 mark when the commentator explains what happens. Late throw behind the receiver. If JG throws a nano-second earlier and leads Jennings to the sideline it’s a big play. Particularly so as the underneath coverage has broken on the ball and Jennings would have been one on one with the corner in open field. The thing that is killing us with JG IMHO just can't be fixed. He knows where to go with the ball he just doesn't have the innate instinct to throw the ball on time and where the receiver is going not where he is. That can’t be fixed by watching film, running routes on air, or anything else I know of. But JG still gets the starts because he has stayed relatively healthy and can at least get us in and out of the huddle and Bama gaffe aside usually gets us in the right play – he just can’t consistently execute it.

Dude all I seen was “has Wood-Anderson wide open early and per usual” and instantly reminded me of the game against Florida when Wood-Anderson was across mid field with no one around him.i stopped reading after that because I started getting mad angry all over again I’m logging off..

 

[UTSuave’]

Why “SOB” tho?

Because I despise JG if you can’t tell..flame me but I do.i have never seen a worse QB in my life and I’ve seen some bad ones.i despise Alabama too so you can link the two together factoring in what he did @ Bama when we have a fair chance of winning that game after 10 years of getting our a$$ kicked..I just want to be relevant again in football and it won’t happen as long as under center.

 

[butchna]

Because I despise JG if you can’t tell..flame me but I do.i have never seen a worse QB in my life and I’ve seen some bad ones.i despise Alabama too so you can link the two together factoring in what he did @ Bama when we a fair chance of winning that game after 10 years of getting our a$$ kicked..I just want to be relevant again in football and it won’t happen as long as under center.

So he’s guilty of not playing good enough so eff him and his mom’s a female dog? Reasonable enough...carry on.

 

[cncchris33]

Here's JG in a nutshell. Start watching at the 13:00 minute mark. Misses Callaway for the TD on a high and behind the receiver throw and then on 4th down has Wood-Anderson wide open early and per usual is late with the throw and doesn't leave the TE enough room in the back of the end zone to go get the ball. Then at the 1:26:30 mark is the Pick Six. Watch until the 1:29:30 mark when the commentator explains what happens. Late throw behind the receiver. If JG throws a nano-second earlier and leads Jennings to the sideline it’s a big play. Particularly so as the underneath coverage has broken on the ball and Jennings would have been one on one with the corner in open field. The thing that is killing us with JG IMHO just can't be fixed. He knows where to go with the ball he just doesn't have the innate instinct to throw the ball on time and where the receiver is going not where he is. That can’t be fixed by watching film, running routes on air, or anything else I know of. But JG still gets the starts because he has stayed relatively healthy and can at least get us in and out of the huddle and Bama gaffe aside usually gets us in the right play – he just can’t consistently execute it.

And that was his 34th college game against an average, at best, Indiana defense. The issues he has are all about confidence and anticipation. That stuff isn't getting fixed between his junior and senior year. At that point, you either have it or you don't.

 

[volinbama256]

What happens first? A transfer out or landing JTD?
Who transfers?

If we land JTD, we lose Shrout and/or Maurer... HB will stay and push for the starting job every game, every year... JG is too blind to think he still isn't good enough and will ride the bench handing out gatorade his final year.

 

[GojiraVol17]

And that was his 34th college game against an average, at best, Indiana defense. The issues he has are all about confidence and anticipation. That stuff isn't getting fixed between his junior and senior year. At that point, you either have it or you don't.

I’m more inclined to agree with you here. I really loved JG when we first signed him and thought the kid would be solid. But, he’s been anything but that. Inconsistent with delivery of easy passes that I probably could’ve made at his age, doesn’t recognize what the defense is trying to do at times unless it’s directly at the line of scrimmage. I WILL give him that he’s one tough coconut though and he’s got some heart & would probably make a solid support staffer here, no lie. I respect him as a person seeing as he’s a pretty good dude with thick skin, but as a QB, I’d trust myself in his shoes more than I would him and I never played a full game at QB.

 

[Devo182]

Sure, plenty of blame to go around but a good QB wins that game.

So does a good defense (or one that can even line up). Why would we need 40+ to beat Ga St?!

It's equal blame and if either side had played even half decent, then we're never talking about that game again.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

It doesn’t help when the SOB doesn’t throw past the sticks either and when he does it’s in the damn dirt or behind them.hes way too inconsistent

Listen, you don't have to be a fan of Guarantano, that's reasonable. But this is college football. As much as I LOVE sports (and I do), it's unnerving when I see a bunch of keyboard warriors insulting some kid because he isn't good enough at a sport. If Guarantano did something worthy of being an SOB, like sexual assault, armed robbery, murder, or really any felony at all then fine, but let's not result to kicking a kid while he's down because he isn't as good at sports as you'd like him to be.

 

[Ron Swanson]

So does a good defense (or one that can even line up). Why would we need 40+ to beat Ga St?!

It's equal blame and if either side had played even half decent, then we're never talking about that game again.

True. As I said, plenty of blame to go around.

I’ve blocked that game out of my memory but I’m guessing our defense was put in some bad spots after the 3 turnovers on offense considering GA State only had 130 yards passing and 200 yards rushing but put up 38 points. JG had a whopping 38.6 QBR. Yikes.

 

[UTSuave’]

So he’s guilty of not playing good enough so eff him and his mom’s a female dog? Reasonable enough...carry on.

It’s one thing to not be good and still try to do everything in your power to win I’m ok with that (Nathan Peterman and Justin Worley) just name a few,but it’s even worse when you’re not good and selfish all at the same time...and he’s both..he’s just not a winner and one could argue that he’s just as much as a quitter to go along with that..I don’t care how humble he sounds like on camera post game..I’m going by what I see on camera during the game with him on the sidelines after a botched possession.thats just me All of us and former players have often criticized him for all these things not just me but I’ll gladly take it all.

 

[Devo182]

True. As I said, plenty of blame to go around.

I’ve blocked that game out of my memory but I’m guessing our defense was put in some bad spots after the 3 turnovers on offense considering GA State only had 130 yards passing and 200 yards rushing but put up 38 points. JG had a whopping 38.6 QBR. Yikes.

Ugh. Terrible memory. It started like App St all over again but we never contained them like we did App. That first turnover by Ty...I'm sitting there going "meh easy stop here to a fg at worst" and they rammed it down our throats. Just the worst possible start to a season.

But you're right, field position played a big part. They only averaged 4.57 ypp. Nothing great. I just expected a ton more from our RZ defense. 4/5 rz attempts being TDs is pretty embarrassing.

 

[UTSuave’]

Listen, you don't have to be a fan of Guarantano, that's reasonable. But this is college football. As much as I LOVE sports (and I do), it's unnerving when I see a bunch of keyboard warriors insulting some kid because he isn't good enough at a sport. If Guarantano did something worthy of being an SOB, like sexual assault, armed robbery, murder, or really any felony at all then fine, but let's not result to kicking a kid while he's down because he isn't as good at sports as you'd like him to be.

I gave you a like because you stated I was a “keyboard warrior” which I am not and found it super funny..just because that is your definition of a “sob” doesn’t mean those things apply to my reference so speak for yourself.the things I’ve brought to frustration are things we have all said about him and some going even further than me..we all must have forgotten that though because it isn’t football season and that’s fine but it isn’t just me

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt because it was raining, but lord almighty that Indiana game. I thought he had finally turned the corner because he had three good games in a row. How he, after playing well in three games in a row struggled that hard against an INDIANA defense that was really nothing special after a month to prepare is beyond all reason.

He can not play well as a starter..that is how.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Ugh. Terrible memory. It started like App St all over again but we never contained them like we did App. That first turnover by Ty...I'm sitting there going "meh easy stop here to a fg at worst" and they rammed it down our throats. Just the worst possible start to a season.

But you're right, field position played a big part. They only averaged 4.57 ypp. Nothing great. I just expected a ton more from our RZ defense. 4/5 rz attempts being TDs is pretty embarrassing.

We would have shut that team out at the end of the season.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I am pessimistic about JG but not completely. I remember what Chaney did with Crompton. I think QB is a lot about comfort and feel. Surely a second year under one of the best QB coaching OCs in the country would help with that. Still, like Beyonce, I'm hoping for an upgrade.

 

[butchna]

It’s one thing to not be good and still try to do everything in your power to win I’m ok with that (Nathan Peterman and Justin Worley) just name a few,but it’s even worse when you’re not good and selfish all at the same time...and he’s both..he’s just not a winner and one could argue that he’s just as much as a quitter to go along with that..I don’t care how humble he sounds like on camera post game..I’m going by what I see on camera during the game with him the sidelines after a botched possession.thats just me All of us and former players have often criticized him for all these things not just me but I’ll gladly take it all.

Criticize away...get in line. Hate seems like an extreme reaction. I’ll leave it there.

 

[sjt18]

I am pessimistic about JG but not completely. I remember what Chaney did with Crompton. I think QB is a lot about comfort and feel. Surely a second year under one of the best QB coaching OCs in the country would help with that. Still, like Beyonce, I'm hoping for an upgrade.

That was a one year turn around with a guy who was an absolute emotional basket case. JG to his tremendous credit has never seemed to buckle under the criticism. He apparently got threats too... which is so insane I struggle to believe anyone is that stupid.

Crompton's problems were the turmoil in the program and his own collapse the previous year. They weren't related to a physical/mental talent needed to play the position.

JG's issue seems to be an innate inability to process reads quickly and anticipate plays. It has been a problem his whole college career but has manifested itself in different ways. Previously the sacks and beatings he took were because he couldn't pull the trigger. His habit of giving up on plays and checking down related to him seeing things too late.

Chaney DID push him. That's why the INT's went up... and the TD's. But he really seems to have hit his ceiling.

 

[VolForLife83]

Ehh, it didn't help. As much as any one single play in the middle of a game can have an effect on the outcome, that one really stands out as a strong candidate. We're talking the difference in being down 28-20 versus being down 35-13 on the road against the #1 team in the country. It is impossible to say it definitively cost us the game, but we went from having a good shot at winning to having no shot in a matter of 15 seconds.

This. Refs kept us down just enough to cost us the game to. Really pissed/pisses me off, but loved seeing the fight in the team that game and pushing their defense back at will on some great drives

 

[Evil King Snake]

JG for heisman trophy 2020!!!!!

 

[1974Vol]

Dude all I seen was “has Wood-Anderson wide open early and per usual” and instantly reminded me of the game against Florida when Wood-Anderson was across mid field with no one around him.i stopped reading after that because I started getting mad angry all over again I’m logging off..

Sorry I triggered you brah lol