2020 Presidential Race

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Acuna_Matata said:
How so?
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Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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She gained over $600k in the process. And no it’s not apples and oranges. Neither woman had or has any evidence whatsoever to back up their claims. Dr. Ford changed her story on multiple occasions after details she provided were proven to be false.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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Received nothing? How about all of those GoFundMe accounts that were set up for her? Supposedly for her lawyers, but they volunteered pro bono. Not to mention she was a known Democrat supporter, coming out against a conservative nominee to the SCOTUS.

And all that aside, what is Biden's accuser getting? Other than ignored by the media and scorned by Democrats?
 
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Boston Vol said:
She gained over $600k in the process. And no it’s not apples and oranges. Neither woman had or has any evidence whatsoever to back up their claims. Dr. Ford changed her story on multiple occasions after details she provided were proven to be false.
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Testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury is evidence, so if Dr. Ford lied under oath, then she is subject to being charged criminally. Evidence is not just DNA and fingerprints. Was Dr. Ford ever charged with perjury? Every case is different and should be judged on its own merits (or lack thereof).
 
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Weezer said:
The problem arises in that when a Republican is accused, Democrats say "believe all women". When a Democrat is accused, all of a sudden they no longer believe in that mantra. I'm not sure how anyone can honestly deny the obvious double standard being applied.
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I don't do that. If the Biden accuser testifies under oath where her credibility can be judged, then that could certainly change things. However, motive is a always a key component as most are looking to gain financially (i.e. book deal, TV interviews, etc.), but Dr. Ford did not to my knowledge.
 
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Weezer said:
Received nothing? How about all of those GoFundMe accounts that were set up for her? Supposedly for her lawyers, but they volunteered pro bono. Not to mention she was a known Democrat supporter, coming out against a conservative nominee to the SCOTUS.

And all that aside, what is Biden's accuser getting? Other than ignored by the media and scorned by Democrats?
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So you believe that Dr. Ford waited all these years for Kavanaugh to possibly be nominated for the Supreme Ct and then sprung into action with these accusations and put her reputation and career on the line because she is a Democratic operative? Surely, you don't even believe that one.
 
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Back on topic...Joe Biden sexual assault allegation


So Reade waited all of these years because she's some Republican operative? Surely, you don't even believe that one.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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I think she was FOS
 
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bnhunt said:
So you believe that Dr. Ford waited all these years for Kavanaugh to possibly be nominated for the Supreme Ct and then sprung into action with these accusations and put her reputation and career on the line because she is a Democratic operative? Surely, you don't even believe that one.
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I know there were GoFundMe accounts that raised quite a bit of money for her. I find it odd she waited until he was nominated for the SCOTUS to come forward. I found her inability to remember certain things questionable. And the whole "afraid of flying" thing when it was documented she flew semi-frequently made me suspicious. End of the day, I have no idea if she was lying or not, but no credible evidence, IMO, showed that Kavanaugh was guilty. He said/she said, with no supporting evidence. And I'm sure the Biden case will run a similar course. None of us know if these women are being truthful. If they are, I have the deepest sympathy for them. But sometimes women lie, and without actual physical evidence, how are we supposed to know who to believe?
 
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bnhunt said:
I don't. Again, what did she gain from it.
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What does Biden's accuser have to gain? In the case of Dr. Ford, she was a known Democrat, so how do we know she didn't have political motives? And I've already mentioned the GoFundMe accounts. And much has been made of Trump "stacking the court". Or maybe she just wanted the attention? There are plenty of possible motives that you choose to overlook.

And in the case of Biden's accuser, she worked for him.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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She didn't have to worry about perjury. She stated nothing as facts.
 
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bnhunt said:
So you believe that Dr. Ford waited all these years for Kavanaugh to possibly be nominated for the Supreme Ct and then sprung into action with these accusations and put her reputation and career on the line because she is a Democratic operative? Surely, you don't even believe that one.
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For starters, Ford still can’t recall basic details of what she says was the most traumatic event in her life. Not where the “assault” took place — she’s not sure whose house it was, or even what street it was on. Nor when — she’s not even sure of the year, let alone the day and month. Ford’s not certain how old she was or what grade she was in. Ford concedes she told no one what happened to her at the time, not even her best friend or mother. Worse, the four other people she identified as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.” The other two potential witnesses — Mark Judge and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth — also deny any recollection of attending such a party. The committee took their sworn statements “under penalty of perjury.” “These witnesses directly contradict Professor Ford’s allegations against Judge Kavanaugh,” Ford contends that notes her therapist took in 2012 corroborate her account. But they don’t mention Kavanaugh.

More here: https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/

Well, if you can believe that she needed caffeine before she could go on about, “Indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter,” if you can believe her recollections from over 20 years ago, about an incident that no one can corroborate, about an incident where she can't remember whose house she was at, her need for two doors to enter her home, which conveniently was partially leased to a tenant, and that her second property in Santa Cruz has no such two door entry, that she is an Anti-Trump woman's marcher, Democrat voter, upset at his 2016 election, etc., etc, etc.

And the fact that she has profited from her "testimony", over $700,000 from Go Fund Me and more has not been reported, and that she now is "famous" and in her neck of the woods, her reputation has grown exponentially from a little known geek.

Oh, and there is this:
Katz’s attorneys performed their work for free, they said. More than $850,000 was raised by activists to support Ford, and an endowment is being set up to honor her for making the claims against Kavanaugh.

The political Ford scrubbed her social media accounts prior to coming forward with her allegations, although friends reported that she was extremely critical of President Trump on Facebook.

Now her own attorney has admitted support for abortion motivated Ford’s role, and her own, in the use of unsupported allegations of rape against Kavanaugh. Blasey Ford Attorney Admits Abortion 'Motivated' Kavanaugh Accusations
 
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bnhunt said:
Testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury is evidence, so if Dr. Ford lied under oath, then she is subject to being charged criminally. Evidence is not just DNA and fingerprints. Was Dr. Ford ever charged with perjury? Every case is different and should be judged on its own merits (or lack thereof).
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Uhhh it was an event that alledgely happened 30/40 years ago that no one else, including her friends who were alledgely there, could remember. Yeah probably lots of evidence lying around that would prove her wrong....

And can you imagine the blowback if they did go after her? Kavanaugh was judged guilty the moment she made the claim and in the eyes of many he still is.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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She is a mental case.
 
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bnhunt said:
Dr. Ford provided testimony under oath with the penalty of perjury where lying is subject to criminal prosecution and to my knowledge she gained absolutely NOTHING from her accusation or testimony. This last part always seems to be overlooked by the Right. She was not just some person out looking for a payday. She was already a successful person and all she received from this was ridicule and ugly attacks from the Right. Her treatment by the Right was disgusting IMO.
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Both men were accused of some sort of sexual assault. CNN published over 700 articles about Ms Ford and Kavanaugh in the few weeks after the allegations became public. It has taken over three weeks for the MSM to mention the allegations against Biden. Explain why that is
 
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Acuna_Matata said:
Both men were accused of some sort of sexual assault. CNN published over 700 articles about Ms Ford and Kavanaugh in the few weeks after the allegations became public. It has taken over three weeks for the MSM to mention the allegations against Biden. Explain why that is
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Simple answer, Trump is flipping the Supreme Court. RBG on the clock
 
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