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butchna said:
Then it goes the other way with yuckleheads like Ubben tweeting that after one game being defended by Pat Beverley, that Pete Maravich would have quit basketball...and every other ridiculous Hank Take. Fans watching basketball since 2000 refuse to believe that it existed beforehand. Phenomenal athletes with proclivity for basketball greatness date back to the creation of the game. There’s been nobody in a superior stratus than Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell and Elgin Baylor amongst others. Most likely others never even attempted basketball and the AAU type programs and modern 24/7/365 focus on development of skills would have netted more than a significant number from the smaller world population. Maybe it’s a failed attempt at humor, but it doesn’t win you any arguments when you emphatically state otherwise. I personally don’t dig what I view as a glorified 3 point fest which is the present game, but I stand in awe of a Devin Booker or a Luka Doncic when they ply their craft. And I have hope when an 80’s type center Nikola Jocik shows that position isn’t completely dead. Not speaking for anybody else when I place my vote for Michael Jordan over Lebron...just don’t want another generation speaking for me.
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that was the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. If he would’ve said like Kwahi Leonard i would’ve at least heard the argument but Beverly is a scrub lol.
Jokic is so good. He’s the most underrated player in the nba right now imo.
 
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Being a Type 1 juvenile onset diabetic( was diagnosed at 16, now 60), many of you discussing sugar is a bit weird. Yes, there is waaaay too much sugar in our foods. But to a diabetic and people in general, the foods containing high starches which turn to sugars in the blood, are as bad, if not more so than normal sugar in a cola or little debbie. When the body stops producing any insulin at all as mine did as a teenager, it wasn't because of the sweet tea or occasional cola I drank. Type 1 diabetes especially, is genetic. Type 2(adult onset) in most cases results from a very poor diet and lack of proper daily exercise.
 
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For the record my top 5 is:

Lebron
Jordan


Shaq
Kobe
Bird


*** i don’t really know how to rank wilt and Kareem. Obviously they were amazing but some of their stat lines are so ridiculous it makes me question if they were just so much taller and more athletic than their competitors.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Where did I say no difference? I didn’t. They’re both bad for you. But most things are fine in moderation. Meth isn’t one of those but I don’t think we should tell adults what they can and can’t put into their own bodies. If they want to do drugs, fine with me as long as they don’t hurt other people. If they do there are consequences. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand for some. “Taking care” of humans cradle to grave isn’t doing them any favors. Educate, listen, learn and make good choices.
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That’s the thing. How do you prevent the “hurtin other people part”? Hasn’t been perfected for alcohol and cigarettes have enforced no smoking areas but you can’t prevent it at home. You never hear the term “she just had a little too much meth.” because there’s not a safe amount you can hit and then go to the store. Meth is just the worst possible example to plead for recreational use and there are multiple others equally ridiculous. One solution doesn’t fit all. Wanna preach legal marijuana? Practically already here. Cocaine? I’d say no because “coked out gunman” is in our lexicon...but I’d entertain the argument. Just nothing works when you say EVERYTHING.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
So I’ve accepted a position working in media for basketball and football recruiting coverage.

Not going to plug it here, don’t want to rub Freak the wrong way, but I’m wondering what you guys value most in recruiting coverage: interviews with prospects, film breakdown, insider rumors, or something else?
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Hard pass on film breakdown, Jesse.
 
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HankHill said:
For the record my top 5 is:

Lebron
Jordan


Shaq
Kobe
Bird


*** i don’t really know how to rank wilt and Kareem. Obviously they were amazing but some of their stat lines are so ridiculous it makes me question if they were just so much taller and more athletic than their competitors.
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Because of the swath of 7 footers today sitting on the bench while 6’9 stretch fives are in during crunch time?
 
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HankHill said:
that was the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. If he would’ve said like Kwahi Leonard i would’ve at least heard the argument but Beverly is a scrub lol.
Jokic is so good. He’s the most underrated player in the nba right now imo.
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Having a conversation...like this Hank.
 
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butchna said:
That’s the thing. How do you prevent the “hurtin other people part”? Hasn’t been perfected for alcohol and cigarettes have enforced no smoking areas but you can’t prevent it at home. You never hear the term “she just had a little too much meth.” because there’s not a safe amount you can hit and then go to the store. Meth is just the worst possible example to plead for recreational use and there are multiple others equally ridiculous. One solution doesn’t fit all. Wanna preach legal marijuana? Practically already here. Cocaine? I’d say no because “coked out gunman” is in our lexicon...but I’d entertain the argument. Just nothing works when you say EVERYTHING.
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Fair point. Okay fine, no meth.
 
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butchna said:
Then it goes the other way with yuckleheads like Ubben tweeting that after one game being defended by Pat Beverley, that Pete Maravich would have quit basketball...and every other ridiculous Hank Take. Fans watching basketball since 2000 refuse to believe that it existed beforehand. Phenomenal athletes with proclivity for basketball greatness date back to the creation of the game. There’s been nobody in a superior stratus than Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell and Elgin Baylor amongst others. Most likely others never even attempted basketball and the AAU type programs and modern 24/7/365 focus on development of skills would have netted more than a significant number from the smaller world population. Maybe it’s a failed attempt at humor, but it doesn’t win you any arguments when you emphatically state otherwise. I personally don’t dig what I view as a glorified 3 point fest which is the present game, but I stand in awe of a Devin Booker or a Luka Doncic when they ply their craft. And I have hope when an 80’s type center Nikola Jocik shows that position isn’t completely dead. Not speaking for anybody else when I place my vote for Michael Jordan over Lebron...just don’t want another generation speaking for me.
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Dominant in any era. I hated the celtics way back when, but in truth loved and respected the way they played the game. Fundamentals and teamwork were on full display. A joy to watch.
 
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This crap..right here...is what is infuriating me about the MSM...look at Newsweek there...freaking scumbag fear mongers 😡

That is a total garbage headline. The only reason Kentuckys confirmed case numbers shot up...is because they have tested a bunch more people recently. They have the same number of deaths as Tennessee. They have only tested about half as many as Tennessee.Screenshot_20200420-124748_Chrome.jpg
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Let me ask you a question. If meth were legal would you do it? Exactly. That’s the point. Doesn’t matter if it’s legal or not. Some people are going to do drugs, drink alcohol, drink 15 sugar filled sodas a day, or shoot heroin whether it’s legal or not. And others won’t. Can’t stop supply and demand.
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We have Soldiers during WWII meth.
 
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butchna said:
Because of the swath of 7 footers today sitting on the bench while 6’9 stretch fives are in during crunch time?
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It depends. If you're trying to hit a three or defend against the three and your 7 footer has the typical difficulties that fellas that size have hitting free throws... then that particular gentleman is occupying a large spot on the bench during crunch time.
 
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HankHill said:
For the record my top 5 is:

Lebron
Jordan


Shaq
Kobe
Bird


*** i don’t really know how to rank wilt and Kareem. Obviously they were amazing but some of their stat lines are so ridiculous it makes me question if they were just so much taller and more athletic than their competitors.
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Other than the sill top 2 you have, which is completely foolish by I digress... I don't think big men should be in the discussion on a list of greatest of all time. Big men are specialists. I compare them to pitchers in baseball. When you talk about who the greatest baseball player ever, no one should say Nolan Ryan. Nolan Ryan might be the greatest pitcher ever, but he isn't the greatest baseball player ever. He's a specialist.

The same is true with big men. Shaq was phenomenal as were Kareem and Wilt. But they were limited. They were specialists. Big men have a specific role that they play. They are rebounders, shot blockers, and they are tasked with controlling the paint. Men like Shaq don't take shots outside of 10 feet. While they are of course extremely important and they are great players, they are so limited that you shouldn't be comparing them to MJ. They should be in a class of their own imo.

Guards and forwards shoot the three, they drive the lane, they shoot jump shots, they dunk, layup, they block shots, rebound, play defense, they do it all. Shaq isn't shooting threes or jump shots. Heck, the dude couldn't even make free throws. Whereas Magic could play all 5 positions at an elite level, could you imagine Shaq trying to run the point? It should be a different discussion for them imo.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
So I’ve accepted a position working in media for basketball and football recruiting coverage.

Not going to plug it here, don’t want to rub Freak the wrong way, but I’m wondering what you guys value most in recruiting coverage: interviews with prospects, film breakdown, insider rumors, or something else?
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Drugs and LeBron
 
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Kingston Vol said:
So I’ve accepted a position working in media for basketball and football recruiting coverage.

Not going to plug it here, don’t want to rub Freak the wrong way, but I’m wondering what you guys value most in recruiting coverage: interviews with prospects, film breakdown, insider rumors, or something else?
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NegaVols247.com?

But seriously, grumors sell more than sex.
 
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