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Do you know how many people die in automobile accidents, and alchohol related deaths every year? Are you for banning driving and prohibition?

I have to ask then are you in favor of legalizing all drugs (I am but I think they should be subject to taxes the revenue from which would be put into drug education and treatment programs. Prohibition ain't working.) and abortion on demand? Both are individual choices. Isn't the logic the same, i.e. very libertarian?
 
Not having spring practice is really going to make the LB position interesting this fall. That’s definitely the position I’m most worried about going into the season.

I would think that the NCAA will have to allow a longer Fall camp with more practice days available. Or have Spring practice mid to early Summer...of course, there is absolutely no telling what the NCAA may allow.
 
I would think that the NCAA will have to allow a longer Fall camp with more practice days available. Or have Spring practice mid to early Summer...of course, there is absolutely no telling what the NCAA may allow.
they need to do away with spring practice anyway. It makes no sense. All of your team isn’t even there and you have 15 practices then take a 4 month break. Move it to summer so the newbies can enroll in summer and participate.
 
MJ was better but you are unfairly harsh on Bron. He has had some monumental tasks against opponents that completely outmatched his teams.
The Bulls with Jordan didn't make it to the finals when they were completely outmatched and were the better team when they won their NBA finals.

Jordan is the GOAT but LeBron will be on the Mt. Rushmore and has been the best player in the league for 2 decades.

Acting like he is anywhere outside the top 5 gives you zero credibility and shows a huge personal bias. He has taken some pretty bad teams on great runs against some of the best all around teams in the history of the game.

This. No problem with anyone calling Jordan or lebron the best. But some of the Jordan people act like Lebron and other fantastic NBA players today couldn’t even start on a semi pro team in the 90s lol. Like I’m surely lebron, Kwahi, etc could get buckets on Jeff hornaceck and Craig Ehlo
 
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MJ was better but you are unfairly harsh on Bron. He has had some monumental tasks against opponents that completely outmatched his teams.
The Bulls with Jordan didn't make it to the finals when they were completely outmatched and were the better team when they won their NBA finals.

Jordan is the GOAT but LeBron will be on the Mt. Rushmore and has been the best player in the league for 2 decades.

Acting like he is anywhere outside the top 5 gives you zero credibility and shows a huge personal bias. He has taken some pretty bad teams on great runs against some of the best all around teams in the history of the game.
Would 100% take Kobe and Magic over Lebron all day
 
I have to ask then are you in favor of legalizing all drugs (I am but I think they should be subject to taxes the revenue from which would be put into drug education and treatment programs. Prohibition ain't working.) and abortion on demand? Both are individual choices. Isn't the logic the same, i.e. very libertarian?
When you say legalizing all drugs, are you including meth, heroin, lsd, etc, etc?
And, as far as abortion on demand, which you clearly seem to have no problem with, immediately ends the life of human beings who have no say and no choice. What do you think of their rights? And do you think those of us who are totally against this should have our tax dollars funding it?
 
MJ was better but you are unfairly harsh on Bron. He has had some monumental tasks against opponents that completely outmatched his teams.
The Bulls with Jordan didn't make it to the finals when they were completely outmatched and were the better team when they won their NBA finals.

Jordan is the GOAT but LeBron will be on the Mt. Rushmore and has been the best player in the league for 2 decades.

Acting like he is anywhere outside the top 5 gives you zero credibility and shows a huge personal bias. He has taken some pretty bad teams on great runs against some of the best all around teams in the history of the game.
As an older fart, I agree. I think Jordan is the goat but LeBron is right behind him. Jordan just had that "it" factor.
 
When you say legalizing all drugs, are you including meth, heroin, lsd, etc, etc?
And, as far as abortion on demand, which you clearly seem to have no problem with, immediately ends the life of human beings who have no say and no choice. What do you think of their rights? And do you think those of us who are totally against this should have our tax dollars funding it?

Legalize all drugs. Prescription drugs are legal and are worse than anything that is outlawed. Abortion should never be funded by tax dollars. In fact the only thing our tax dollars should fund is the military and our infrastructure and a very limited federal oversight to protect its citizens. Empower state governments. Localize tax dollars.
 
Disagree..come see the mining museum here in Harlan county, or about a million other examples of abuse. I never said I agree with 15 anyway.

I know I'm way behind but don't care. But I will hide as not to disrupt whatever the current discussion.

You're right and it's not just Harlan. The number of industries paying in that same range, ones requiring skills and high safety concerns, offering $10 -11 an hour, is a joke.

"burger flipping" is a strawman and 'go to' every time in these discussions, for obvious reasons.
It's just used to paint low pay as only affecting a bunch of hs kids or the lazy and unmotivated. Also simply untrue, easily dispelled by looking at national income levels.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe minimum wage hikes, fix anything. Inflation just matches the increase and some businesses truly can't afford across the board hikes.
It's a greed issue and you simply can't legislate morals.

But I will not pretend it's not a real or hide it behind "burger flipping" examples.
Only 50% hitting the $25,000 mark in a country with our cost of living is ridiculous.
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And NO, half of the nation isn't working at a fast food joint or too lazy to want better. Adjust for part time, later advancement, whatever excuse they want. There's still not enough employment paying livable wages for the answer to simply be "lazy", "grab dem bootstraps" and so on.

It's just easier when there's political undertones or we simply would rather not acknowledge the more complicated, reality.

I'll admit, it feels better convincing ourselves that we're part of that 'rare breed' that works hard and that's the real reason for the discrepancy.
Sounds better than explaining why some poor jackass is counting minutes till his break, when he has his 1st opportunity to stop grinding and take more Tylenol.
Yeah, he must be lazy... I'm just working harder. (adjusts chair before making our 20th post on a sports message board). No other explanation. No support, circumstances, opportunities or breaks ever involved obviously, just my boot straps. Yeah, that sounds good.
 
Legalize all drugs. Prescription drugs are legal and are worse than anything that is outlawed. Abortion should never be funded by tax dollars. In fact the only thing our tax dollars should fund is the military and our infrastructure and a very limited federal oversight to protect its citizens. Empower state governments. Localize tax dollars.
Now we are talking. You get your badge back.
 
I know I'm way behind but don't care. But I will hide as not to disrupt whatever the current discussion.

You're right and it's not just Harlan. The number of industries paying in that same range, ones requiring skills and high safety concerns, offering $10 -11 an hour, is a joke.

"burger flipping" is a strawman and 'go to' every time in these discussions, for obvious reasons.
It's just used to paint low pay as only affecting a bunch of hs kids or the lazy and unmotivated. Also simply untrue, easily dispelled by looking at national income levels.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe minimum wage hikes, fix anything. Inflation just matches the increase and some businesses truly can't afford across the board hikes.
It's a greed issue and you simply can't legislate morals.

But I will not pretend it's not a real or hide it behind "burger flipping" examples.
Only 50% hitting the $25,000 mark in a country with our cost of living is ridiculous.
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And NO, half of the nation isn't working at a fast food joint or too lazy to want better. Adjust for part time, later advancement, whatever excuse they want. There's still not enough employment paying livable wages for the answer to simply be "lazy", "grab dem bootstraps" and so on.

It's just easier when there's political undertones or we simply would rather not acknowledge the more complicated, reality.

I'll admit, it feels better convincing ourselves that we're part of that 'rare breed' that works hard and that's the real reason for the discrepancy.
Sounds better than explaining why some poor jackass is counting minutes till his break, when he has his 1st opportunity to stop grinding and take more Tylenol.
Yeah, he must be lazy... I'm just working harder. (adjusts chair before making our 20th post on a sports message board). No other explanation. No support, circumstances, opportunities or breaks ever involved obviously, just my boot straps. Yeah, that sounds good.
I don't know where all these skilled labor folks are that will work for minimum wage or even close. It cost me a minimum of $18 to get folks to talk to me. I pay a guy $12 to sweep the floor. You can hire those lower $10/hr guy but they show up half the time, if they do show up they're always late, and many are stoned when they arrive. To get people that actually will work, I have to pay at least $12 for a little to no skill person. $18 for the average skilled trade, and over $20 for highly skilled trade.
 
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