Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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InVOLuntary said:
So you think stoned people don't drive? You think they don't operate heavy equipment? What about semi trucks on the road? Sometimes you don't need stats when you apply logic.
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I think stoned drivers are safer than sober ones, I've experienced that first hand. Also there is a level of responsibility just at a much lower level than owning a gun. You should enjoy mj in moderation and be responsible, that goes without saying. Equating mj to guns is apples oranges.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I know that's what you said but you've mentioned you're conflicted about whether more gun laws might be tool to use to prevent mass shootings.
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I mentioned being conflicted about being able to prevent mass shootings I think that is a normal feeling.
 
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bignewt said:
I think stoned drivers are safer than sober ones, I've experienced that first hand. Also there is a level of responsibility just at a much lower level than owning a gun. You should enjoy mj in moderation and be responsible, that goes without saying. Equating mj to guns is apples oranges.
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This sounds like anecdata. Driving stoned is very much inadvisable.
 
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bignewt said:
I think stoned drivers are safer than sober ones, I've experienced that first hand. Also there is a level of responsibility just at a much lower level than owning a gun. You should enjoy mj in moderation and be responsible, that goes without saying. Equating mj to guns is apples oranges.
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As long as they stay off freeways. Vehicles doing 20 mph on I-40 are a danger to everyone else doing 70+. Can testify.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
I’m sorry that reading comprehension is hard. Hank said that 37,000 deaths from this virus deserves a call for help. I’m merely saying that 620,000 deaths every year deserves a call for help. Why are lives being lost due to this virus more important than lives being lost due to abortion, yet there is no upheaval in this country about the 620,000 babies who are killed every year with NO CHOICE in the matter?! Whether or not people decide to leave their home and possibly expose themselves to this virus is their choice… The babies have no choice. Just trying to find out why lives being lost due to a virus that we are trying to control is more important than lives being lost due to abortion, in which there could be full control preventing that. Plenty of capable parents would love to adopt those precious souls.
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Ok make it personal.
 
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bignewt said:
I think stoned drivers are safer than sober ones, I've experienced that first hand. Also there is a level of responsibility just at a much lower level than owning a gun. You should enjoy mj in moderation and be responsible, that goes without saying. Equating mj to guns is apples oranges.
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Lol. It's exactly the same. Each should be enjoyed with a level of responsibility. You car about MJ, you care very little about firearms. As stated earlier, people are ok with rights of others being infringed upon as long as it isn't a right they care about.
 
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bignewt said:
Agnostic. I may very well have one!
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Have you ever seen the South Park episode where Kenny and his siblings get put in a strict agnostic household?

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bignewt said:
I mentioned being conflicted about being able to prevent mass shootings I think that is a normal feeling.
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Yes but you are being conflicted about whether to infringe on other's rights to achieve prevention of mass shootings. I'm not conflicted at all. I hate mass shootings but I'm not prepared to take innocent's liberties away.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
I think people look at it now like they looked at drunk driving before the 80s -- as a kind of joke. But it clearly is dangerous to operate that kind of machinery under the influence, and this is commonly acknowledged even by those who support legalization of marijuana.
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Be responsible. I'll say that again.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Yes but you are being conflicted about whether to infringe on other's rights to achieve prevention of mass shootings. I'm not conflicted at all. I hate mass shootings but I'm not prepared to take innocent's liberties away.
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So screw it then? It's just gonna happen.
 
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HankHill said:
Idk your background or upbringing but i am from a very low income high crime area so i am very familiar with people who are born that had virtually no choice or chance at a life of enjoyment. I think Society and some people view an unborn child as pure and what they want to imagine them to become. But then when that person is born into a bad situation its more likely they become a sad story or enter into a life of crime or poverty. then some of the same people banging the table for them to be born in the first place are complaining about them Being on government assistance Or the crimes that they will probably one day commit.

There’s also a big difference in people who aren’t ready for a child vs ones who just do not want them.
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Facts. Terrible thing to bring a child into a world where they won’t experience love. Perpetuates a nasty cycle of hate.

I also don’t get why religious people are against it. It’s admitting that they don’t believe that we have souls.
 
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Not to try and take everyone down a rabbit hole but why has it always had to be either or, I've always kinda felt myself that evolution and creation can both be true, why can't evolution be apart of the creation process. It takes a miraculous set of circumstances and timing for everything to align too create life especially at the Cellular level. We aren't the same people we where 100 years ago circumstances and exposure changes us we are constantly evolving with technology, science, psychological studies we are constantly finding out new things about the human race we didn't know before. So if the ability to evolve and change and adapt to our circumstances now as God's creation why can't it be apart of who we where at the beginning of our time?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Lol. It's exactly the same. Each should be enjoyed with a level of responsibility. You car about MJ, you care very little about firearms. As stated earlier, people are ok with rights of others being infringed upon as long as it isn't a right they care about.
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Crucify me for saying I'm conflicted. I would still never support any infringement if your right to strap it up.
 
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@bignewt

Legalized marijuana linked to a sharp rise in car crashes

Most of the stuff I found were studies that were comparing MJ related car crashes to before and after legalization. Mixed reviews on that but there are significant car crashes from mj impaired drivers. Like I've stated, I stand for your right to partake. Even though I have no desire to myself. I'm sure you are responsible with your use, but just as some firearms owners are not responsible with their firearms, I don't think it's right to infringe on those who are.
 
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bignewt said:
So screw it then? It's just gonna happen.
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I think it's the kind of problem that really really really doesn't have an easy answer.

If you could wave a magic wand and make the guns disappear you could have a discussion. But bans are not going to work with so many in circulation. There are countries with more guns per capita than the US that have far fewer mass shootings than we do, so clearly something else is going on.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Facts. Terrible thing to bring a child into a world where they won’t experience love. Perpetuates a nasty cycle of hate.

I also don’t get why religious people are against it. It’s admitting that they don’t believe that we have souls.
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What?? It’s murder, that’s why religious people are against it. Do I know all of those little babies will have their places in heaven one day?? ABSOLUTELY!! Does it make it right to take away their chance at life? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Don’t want a child? Then practice abstinence until you are married and ready for children.
 
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