Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I can’t read this thread with all the oddly named flu with 98% survivability rate talk, so this may have already been discussed.... but the VQ podcast said they could see another commitment in the next week or so and the RTI podcast said they expected one in the next day or so.

Hope it's Nixon or Colson. Please be a blue chipper whoever it is. We need a big boom

 

[SSVol]

What do you take daily?

10k winter, 5k summer. Taking 10k now. Anyone over 50 should be. Your goal is to be over 50 ng/ml. As you get older, it is next to impossible to be at that level without supplementation. North of Atlanta it is impossible to get enough sun in the winter to do that, no matter how much time you spend outdoors. If you don’t eat much meat, might want to look at zinc too.

You may still get C-19 while having high D, but it is likely to be far milder.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Golf may be the sport that technology effected the most... have you seen drivers from even just 20 years ago? Guys were hitting with legit clubs made from wood and scoring low. Golf is unlike any sport, you could look like Bartolo Colon and win a major. It’s probably the one sport that the generations past could walk in with today’s equipment and be on equal footing. 50 years ago offensive lineman in football were like 230 they ain’t making it today.

Absolutely. Same with baseball and basically any other sport. The level of athleticism is on a different level today than anytime in history. But golf, heck, there's been many out of shape guys win major tourneys. That's why the average man like myself loves to play.

 

[OrangenSC]

Good man...I am going to try to visit all the NPs in the lower 48 before I die. If we are lucky, maybe one of the kids will take us to see the Hawaii and Alaska NPs.

Ken Burns National Park doc is what inspired me. The National Parks are our greatest treasures.

Been to Hawaii's and 2 in AK. Hopefully, will hit AK again in a couple of years.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Here's a what if? The 7 Deep South states - SC, FL, GA, AL, MS, LA, and TX - secede when Lincoln is elected. In this scenario the North decides to let them go their ow way, which means Lincoln doesn't call for 75000 troops to put down what he considered a rebellion, which further means TN, AR, VA, and NC don't secede. What then? What does the immediate future look like for North America, and by 'immediate future', let's say the remainder of the 19th century.

..... what if in the first battle of the civil war the confederate army hadn’t allowed the North to retreat and would of marched straight to the Capitol instead of celebrating...... (The North didn’t really have any more forces prepared at that time)

 

[gainesvol82]

You and I are in the same county. I'm off 210.

I work on US1 near Northrop Grumman and live off of 207.

I love it here. St Augustine is a cool town, better beaches than other parts of the north half of the Atlantic side of the state, not too touristy and within a couple hour drive of all kinds of fun stuff.

 

[SweetasSoda]

That is true...I wish that that great evil had never been allowed on these shores. But it was, and it wasn't invented by southerners.

I wonder what great things could have been accomplished without all that chaos and destruction in the middle of the century, just as the world was entering the industrial revolution.

However I once read an interesting paper once about it that posited that the Civil War was a perfect example of "creative destruction"...and that it led to the exponential growth in the west...in other words, it was the reason that we have become who we are.

I have always thought that. Along with the fact that as a country we paid for allowing slavery into it. The South had more slaves and longer, and they paid with more lives and for a longer time economically. And as a side note, my two ancestors that fought for the Confederacy fought for states rights because their ancestors were Scotch-Irish that fought the British for centuries in the old world and the new and had taught them that keeping states in control was key to not being controlled as they had been in the old world. They did not own slaves. But even if they did I refuse to feel guilty about what someone else did. Just as I do not take credit for what they did. I'm sure practically every person alive has an ancestor that owned a slave of someone somewhere in time. Let's learn from our mistakes not wallow in them.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Found out yesterday that my job is going to backpay me for every hour missed due to Covid-19. Excellent news and hope others are as fortunate.

Awesome! My husband's company in Murfreesboro is also.

 

[gainesvol82]

Pete is a cheat too. The thing about it is that most of these guys didn't need to do it. Bonds still was great without the juice. McGwire, Sosa, all those guys didn't need to do it. Pete didn't need to gamble, either.

I agree but Bonds, McGuire, Sosa and Clemens get unfairly crucified for being the poster children of the steroid era.

They cheated but I understand the pressure to do so when nearly everyone else was as well. Cheat and maintain or increase greatness or don't cheat and fall behind the pack? I can't honestly say what I would do in their position.

But relative to their competition Barry Bonds is the best batter of all time and I think we could still say that if he hadn't cheated....maybe he wouldn't have the HR record though.

Griffey Jr might have challenged that if not for injury.

 

[RikidyBones]

I work on US1 near Northrop Grumman and live off of 207.

I love it here. St Augustine is a cool town, better beaches than other parts of the north half of the Atlantic side of the state, not too touristy and within a couple hour drive of all kinds of fun stuff.

It is a cool town. I hope it survives this. Alot of that economy is tourism. So you're in south St. Augustine. We need to find a joint to watch these Vol games that @Catbone wont chicken out from.

 

[GiggerVol]

I have always thought that. Along with the fact that as a country we paid for allowing slavery into it. The South had more slaves and longer, and they paid with more lives and for a longer time economically. And as a side note, my two ancestors that fought for the Confederacy fought for states rights because their ancestors were Scotch-Irish that fought the British for centuries in the old world and the new and had taught them that keeping states in control was key to not being controlled as they had been in the old world. They did not own slaves. But even if they did I refuse to feel guilty about what someone else did. Just as I do not take credit for what they did. I'm sure practically every person alive has an ancestor that owned a slave of someone somewhere in time. Let's learn from our mistakes not wallow in them.

1000 likes. Among the stories my great grandfather used to share was that, like most other fellas he knew from the mid. Tn area fought for the confederacy simply to "whip a bunch of damn yankees". They felt threatened that the "yankees were coming to take their rights etc and they were gonna whip em and send them back where they belonged. He stated, early on, most of them had no idea what was about to transpire what with the deaths, maiming, destruction etc.

 

[Wadetime]

LOL well done Wanya. This is my favorite one

 

[gainesvol82]

It is a cool town. I hope it survives this. Alot of that economy is tourism. So you're in south St. Augustine. We need to find a joint to watch these Vol games that @Catbone wont chicken out from.

 

[GiggerVol]

I agree but Bonds, McGuire, Sosa and Clemens get unfairly crucified for being the poster children of the steroid era.

They cheated but I understand the pressure to do so when nearly everyone else was as well. Cheat and maintain or increase greatness or don't cheat and fall behind the pack? I can't honestly say what I would do in their position.

But relative to their competition Barry Bonds is the best batter of all time and I think we could still say that if he hadn't cheated....maybe he wouldn't have the HR record though.

Griffey Jr might have challenged that if not for injury.

BB the greatest batter of all time? Geez, either you are fairly young or haven't studied baseball history and players deeply enough. All you have to do is look at Bond's time with the Pirates when he was young, trim and fast. Was he a great player? Yes, but best batter of all time, no, IMO. And as far as the homerun record that , IMO is Hank's, I wonder how many the great Lou Gerhig would have hit if not beset with his dreadful disease at such an early age. And how many would that great Gibson guy had hit had he not spent his career in the Negro Leagues? And don't leave out Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Clemente, who was trajically killed at a young age among others. IMO, Bonds would have been lucky to reach 400 hrs had he stayed clean his whole career.

 

[GiggerVol]

1000 likes. Among the stories my great grandfather used to share was that, like most other fellas he knew from the mid. Tn area fought for the confederacy simply to "whip a bunch of damn yankees". They felt threatened that the "yankees were coming to take their rights etc and they were gonna whip em and send them back where they belonged. He stated, early on, most of them had no idea what was about to transpire what with the deaths, maiming, destruction etc.

Of course, since I'm a blood relative of President James Buchanon, I guess their could have been a few slaves owned by some of my ancestors, but I don't know.

 

[drvenner]

I agree but Bonds, McGuire, Sosa and Clemens get unfairly crucified for being the poster children of the steroid era.

They cheated but I understand the pressure to do so when nearly everyone else was as well. Cheat and maintain or increase greatness or don't cheat and fall behind the pack? I can't honestly say what I would do in their position.

But relative to their competition Barry Bonds is the best batter of all time and I think we could still say that if he hadn't cheated....maybe he wouldn't have the HR record though.

Griffey Jr might have challenged that if not for injury.

Bonds is not the best hitter of all time. He is one of the best home run hitters. He is tied for 231st in career batting average at .298. There are numerous power hitters way ahead of him in BA including Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Williams. Mays and Aaron have higher career BA also.

 

[gainesvol82]

BB the greatest batter of all time? Geez, either you are fairly young or haven't studied baseball history and players deeply enough. All you have to do is look at Bond's time with the Pirates when he was young, trim and fast. Was he a great player? Yes, but best batter of all time, no, IMO. And as far as the homerun record that , IMO is Hank's, I wonder how many the great Lou Gerhig would have hit if not beset with his dreadful disease at such an early age. And how many would that great Gibson guy had hit had he not spent his career in the Negro Leagues? And don't leave out Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Clemente, who was trajically killed at a young age among others. IMO, Bonds would have been lucky to reach 400 hrs had he stayed clean his whole career.

How would Bonds of done in any of the eras you mentioned? He would dominated.

Even if his career proceeded at a similar trajectory as his Pittsburgh years he would still have been an all-time great and would have gotten to 500 or so HRs.

He also was great at every other aspect of offense during the first half of his career.

 

[drvenner]

Before I start this, I’m not a Tiger hater. In real life, I’m usually having to defend Tiger against the “Lol, 18 > 15, bro!” crowd. Like I said to Bass, Tiger may end up being the GOAT before it’s all said and done.

I think the era from 2010-present is the strongest golf has ever been top to bottom, by a significant margin.

2000-2009? I think golf was kind of in a rebuilding phase. There was a glut of mid-level talent that didn’t really ever develop to its full potential, and younger players that would come into their own in the next decade. 2005-09 was particularly weak, when Els and Vijay kind of fell off, and the younger stars of the 10s weren’t quite there yet. If you want to know what I mean, take a look at the 2008 US Open final leaderboard. Or better yet, consider that Tom Watson was one bad tee shot away from winning the 2009 British Open, at age 59!

There were also weak eras in Jack’s day too. And admittedly, golf was more “top-heavy” in those days, but it’s not by as much as people want to believe. I think a lot of it comes from how much easier it is to remember the “also-rans” from recent times than older eras. For example, people remember guys like Anthony Kim and think “Yeah, that guy was pretty good. I remember a few years when people thought he might be the next big thing.” Whereas his 70s-80s counterparts, guys like JC Snead, Isao Aoki, Hubert Green, Andy North, etc. have somewhat been lost to golf’s collective memory, even though all the guys I mentioned probably had more success than Kim ended up having.

Feel free to disagree. Been loving the golf talk for the past day.

You left out Tom Weiskopf. He was my favorite golfer when I was a kid.

 

[Jimmy Football]

You left out Tom Weiskopf. He was my favorite golfer when I was a kid.

I don’t consider him an “also-ran.” He was a standout player of his era.

 

[drvenner]

I just ate 40 M&M’s

Bags?!!

 

[Geaux_Vols]

Absolutely. Same with baseball and basically any other sport. The level of athleticism is on a different level today than anytime in history. But golf, heck, there's been many out of shape guys win major tourneys. That's why the average man like myself loves to play.

God bless John Daly.

 

[drvenner]

I don’t consider him an “also-ran.” He was a standout player of his era.

Sorry. Thought you were listing some decent players.

 

[gainesvol82]

Bonds is not the best hitter of all time. He is one of the best home run hitters. He is tied for 231st in career batting average at .298. There are numerous power hitters way ahead of him in BA including Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Williams. Mays and Aaron have higher career BA also.

Pitching competition factors into that. Between the shift and constantly being walked nobody has intimidated defenses the way he did.

 

[Ryno14]

Finally finished my banana cream protein powder. What should I get next? See a lot of you on here talk about cookies and cream from Whey

 

[Jimmy Football]

Sorry. Thought you were listing some decent players.

Actually I just looked it up, and all those people I listed had more success than I remembered. That’s kind of what I was getting at though: I’ve forgotten so many of the “good, not great” players from that time. A bit of a shame, really.