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Listening to Trump's presser. He is talking about phase 4 of stimulus. He wants the Democrats' demand for more money to hospitals and state governments, an infrastructure bill, and a payroll tax freeze all included in phase 4 stimulus. Fire up the printers boys.
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Hopefully we will see things start to decline drastically in a few weeks

I think it's going to be a lot longer for NYC to get back at full throttle than other parts of the country. Rush hour subways are just going to be an evergreen generator for this thing.
 
I think it's going to be a lot longer for NYC to get back at full throttle than other parts of the country. Rush hour subways are just going to be an evergreen generator for this thing.
Well yeah it will be a while before NY gets back going but hopefully here in Virginia shortly after memorial day we can get going again
 
I think it's going to be a lot longer for NYC to get back at full throttle than other parts of the country. Rush hour subways are just going to be an evergreen generator for this thing.

We have talked about just condemning it as a blight for the rest of the country and shutting it all down , we just don’t want you people to spread out . We like having you in one place so we can point at laugh at you when you tell us your ideas . 😊
 
I'm sure you guys would have loved it if Obama referred to southern grandparents as mamaws and papaws.

That’s what I called mine so no I wouldn’t have been offended . Might have made me forget he was from Chicago / DC for once .
 
That’s what I called mine so no I wouldn’t have been offended . Might have made me forget he was from Chicago / DC for once .

Yeah, I'm sure the Harvard-educated black Yankee referring to southern grandparents as "papaws" and "mamaws" would have gone over swimmingly with the FoxNews crowd.
 
Yeah, I'm sure the Harvard-educated black Yankee referring to southern grandparents as "papaws" and "mamaws" would have gone over swimmingly with the FoxNews crowd.

There’s more to life then being highly educated , I know it’s hard for you to accept that , but most people aren’t anymore concerned with your education , than they are with your ability to make Origami art.
 
There’s more to life then being highly educated , I know it’s hard for you to accept that , but most people aren’t anymore concerned with your education , than they are with your ability to make Origami art.
BS. God how many time have I heard you and the rest of the Redhats complain about Lawyers and Liberal indoctrination in college? Education is bad.
 
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I'm sure you guys would have loved it if Obama referred to southern grandparents as mamaws and papaws.

Those are great grandparents.
Anything other than granny and grandaddy is fightin words in exchange for grandparents.

Absolutely.
Hell, fahr, and brimstone
 
Trump knows how to pick 'em



From NPR and Washington Examiner....

Some actual context, but definitely longer than a twitter feed rant

-"The chronic burden of medical ills is likely to make people of color, especially, less resilient to the ravages of COVID-19. And it is possibly, in fact, likely that the burden of social ills is likely contributing,"

- Adams said that there is no scientific basis to believe that people of color are "biologically or genetically predisposed to get COVID-19," but that they are "socially predisposed to coronavirus exposure, and have a higher incidence of the very diseases that put you at risk for severe complications of coronavirus."

-"I need you to know you are not helpless, and it’s even more important that in communities of color, we adhere to the task force guidelines to slow the spread," Surgeon General Jerome Adams said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing on Friday. "Stay at home if possible. If you must go out, maintain 6 feet of distance between you and everyone else, and wear a mask if you’re going to be within 6 feet of others. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs."

-The surgeon general, who stressed this is "even more important" in communities of color, also said people should "check in on your mother" along with friends and family. "She wants to hear from you," he said.

-"Speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. Do it for your granddaddy, do it for your Big Mama, do it for your pop-pop," he said

-Later in the briefing, Adams said, "All Americans need to avoid these substances at all times," referring to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs.
 
I was sure about the limitations of smart meters right now... meaning that they are only capable of only controling the main feed at best. Again, you even stated that they do exist in a small number of applications. I was making a general statement, not saying that ALL smart meters have control points.






My apologies, Ras. When you said...
Just wait until they put that SMART meter on your home. They will turn off your HVAC unit in the summertime for you to prevent you from using too much energy.
I thought you meant, "Just wait until they put that SMART meter on your home. They will turn off your HVAC unit in the summertime for you to prevent you from using too much energy."
Now that you clarified...
I was making a general statement, not saying that ALL smart meters have control points.
I agree that a very low percentage of meters are capable of remotely connecting or disconnecting. That function does not make the meter a smart meter. It makes it a RCDC meter. Smart meter refers to the ability to report usage and power quality remotely. That is all. RCDC meters are used in a very select application. Namely, locations where frequent connect and reconnect functions are required (high turnover apartments and customers with multiple occurrences of being cut for non-payment). If you maintain your account in relatively good standing, the power company does not want a RCDC meter on your location. They are more expensive, and they fail open. This causes lost revenue and an extra trip for a technician when the meter finally fails to close in remotely.
Also, when you said this...

Soon (if not already here).

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off.
Followed by a bunch of tin foil hat stuff,
I interpreted that as, "Soon (if not already here)." Followed by a bunch of tin foil hat stuff. Now that you clarified...
Your second paragraph assumes that I was suggesting it would be an overnight process to modify every home. I never made that claim. I am simy saying that the ability to control residential breakers is well within reach. As I clearly stated earlier, it could be phased in with changes in the electrical codes that made provisions to include these new devices. Obviously, that would take time to trickle it's way to every home. I'm fully aware of that.
I agree that some arbitrary time in the future, the technology may exist. My example of three years to change nearly all meters to smart meters (read smart meter and not RCDC meter) after the extensive PSC rate case prep and approval was to show this type of effort doesn't happen soon, and it comes at a tremendous cost. To now propose changing to RCDC meters across the board would be detrimental to reliability (they fail open and frequently lose communication), they are expensive, and the PSC would catch hell trying to approve the cost if the power company were dumb enough to request them. There are many other smart grid initiatives that have a net positive impact to try to get the PSC to approve something that neither customers nor the utility wants.
And finally...
The technology is already here. Just because your smart meter has certain limitations, that doesn't mean what I am saying can't be done or isn't practical.

Smart Circuit Breakers: The Next Frontier of the Grid Edge?
It isn't practical for reasons listed above. I work in power delivery for one of the companies referenced in the article you linked about a 12 month study from 2017. It reads as one of many pet science projects, but the article itself references acquiring data over the course of the study to determine the viability of large scale role out. Ask me how many customer breakers our company can remotely operate after this study concluded two years ago. The only application I could see any business case for would be EV charging stations where we already have some creative billing structures for customers. Aside from that, we don't like RCDC meters for the reasons noted above, controlling customer breakers would be even less appealing. You do look sexy as hell in that tin foil hat though.
 
From NPR and Washington Examiner....

Some actual context, but definitely longer than a twitter feed rant

-"The chronic burden of medical ills is likely to make people of color, especially, less resilient to the ravages of COVID-19. And it is possibly, in fact, likely that the burden of social ills is likely contributing,"

- Adams said that there is no scientific basis to believe that people of color are "biologically or genetically predisposed to get COVID-19," but that they are "socially predisposed to coronavirus exposure, and have a higher incidence of the very diseases that put you at risk for severe complications of coronavirus."

-"I need you to know you are not helpless, and it’s even more important that in communities of color, we adhere to the task force guidelines to slow the spread," Surgeon General Jerome Adams said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing on Friday. "Stay at home if possible. If you must go out, maintain 6 feet of distance between you and everyone else, and wear a mask if you’re going to be within 6 feet of others. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs."

-The surgeon general, who stressed this is "even more important" in communities of color, also said people should "check in on your mother" along with friends and family. "She wants to hear from you," he said.

-"Speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. Do it for your granddaddy, do it for your Big Mama, do it for your pop-pop," he said

-Later in the briefing, Adams said, "All Americans need to avoid these substances at all times," referring to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs.

So not only is the Coronavirus racist so is our black surgeon general?
 
Can anyone explain this? Yet, California, with the Bay Area seems to have far less?

I’m not sure on case counts but on deaths it takes likely over 3 weeks for the average person to die of CV after infection. 5 days of incubation and then about 17 days post onset. So the deaths have continued rising from cases that were contracted prior to heavier social distancing.

San Francisco acted faster than than NY as I recall and BART is no NY Subway system.
 
From NPR and Washington Examiner....

Some actual context, but definitely longer than a twitter feed rant

-"The chronic burden of medical ills is likely to make people of color, especially, less resilient to the ravages of COVID-19. And it is possibly, in fact, likely that the burden of social ills is likely contributing,"

- Adams said that there is no scientific basis to believe that people of color are "biologically or genetically predisposed to get COVID-19," but that they are "socially predisposed to coronavirus exposure, and have a higher incidence of the very diseases that put you at risk for severe complications of coronavirus."

-"I need you to know you are not helpless, and it’s even more important that in communities of color, we adhere to the task force guidelines to slow the spread," Surgeon General Jerome Adams said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing on Friday. "Stay at home if possible. If you must go out, maintain 6 feet of distance between you and everyone else, and wear a mask if you’re going to be within 6 feet of others. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs."

-The surgeon general, who stressed this is "even more important" in communities of color, also said people should "check in on your mother" along with friends and family. "She wants to hear from you," he said.

-"Speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. Do it for your granddaddy, do it for your Big Mama, do it for your pop-pop," he said

-Later in the briefing, Adams said, "All Americans need to avoid these substances at all times," referring to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs.
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