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BaldBiker said:
Amen.

I can't even imagine me living in a Confederate States of America. Don't want to. But...knowing history...the real history...I know that what is being fed to young people today, and the truth, are not the same. Slavery was not as large of an issue for anyone, North or South, as States rights. The industrialized north wanted more federal rule. The Southern states didn't. Slavery...outside of the fanatics like John Brown...weren't even an issue in the North until 1863.

Annnnd...after the Civil War...most Northerners wanted freed slaves to stay in the South. Slavery was only an issue for most Northerners, if it won the war.
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Wanted them to stay in a south that wasn't exactly ideal post war. Countless thousands without a source of income, food or a place to live.
The picturesque world painted in history books of a completely welcoming north and only stories of freed slaves becoming landowners and entrepreneurs, is insane.

Don't misunderstand, of course you choose struggles over slavery. My point is the need to appear as the ultimate heroes and accept no flaws, has created terrible historical inaccuracies not only during the war but long after.

Well, technically prewar also. A lot of discoveries of rivers etc., were rewritten to award the honors to someone from the Union, afterwards.
I know "to the victor goes the spoils" but there's such a thing as taking it too far. Especially when corrupting historical accounts.
 
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drvenner said:
I've been scrolling past all the Covid posts and am enjoying the hell out of the Civil War comments. Thanks, Fellas!
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Hey! 2 (of my) posts ago I replied to a covid post but turned it into a Franklin quote, historical accuracy post.

You sir, have dishonored my contribution with your willy nilly scrolling.
 
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GiggerVol said:
Stay tuned, take your quiz, do your homework and then we'll move on to WW1 and beyond. Maybe we can all earn honorary history degrees or at least a certificate when we complete the course.
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Sounds good to me. All for a conversation about the lead up to WWI and national leaders ignoring how much the world around them had changed. And then following the war, there are all sorts of cautionary tales re the perils of folks confusing nations and states and playing games with maps.
 
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