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Mick said:
I know one person will try and I know other people that will pat him on the back and say something like "winning".
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How about reality. Every level from city to county to state to federal ( i use swype and federal comes up as rectal... Go figure) Is in a total learning curve with this virus. No one has gotten it all correct and no one has gotten it all wrong.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Well Lincoln, FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Nixon were the big ones who popped into my mind. All either publicly contradicted their own "experts" or simply fired those who disagreed with them
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Link or at least examples so I can look it up myself? For one of the more recent ones, if possible.
 
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05_never_again said:
1) Trump's the one who ultimately made the shutdown decision. Actually, state governors around the country have made that decision. Fauci is there to give a medical opinion, and that's what he's been doing. He isn't supposed to be taking economic considerations into his analysis - that's for others, the decision-makers, to decide. Fauci is a voice that should be in the room, not the ultimate decision maker.
2) It is more deadly than the flu, particularly for old people. That's just false. Hospitals don't get overrun by seasonal flu.
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Governors and Trump listened to him way too much. He likes being relevant so he uses worse case scenarios. Listen to him fine, but Trump should have said "thanks for your thoughts but we aren't shutting the country down over this." Governors enjoy the power of being able to tell the people what they can/can't do.
We don't shut the country down over the flu, death numbers will end up being about the same maybe even less with CV-19. Hospitals don't get overrun because we don't have the media and politicians pushing false numbers and causing havoc and panic among the people
 
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Of countries with greater than 1000 deaths, excluding China, only Germany has a better deaths per million than us. Obviously our number is not done, but neither is theirs.
 
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VolnJC said:
Wow what a tough choice
1) Admit they were wrong
2) Give Trump credit
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The really scary thing is that if it had been more than that 'one person from China" who made it through, Trump might not have had it under control.

Other than that, Clay should stick to his satire, If this isn't what he's doing here.
 
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volfanjustin said:
1) Fauci likes to use worst case scenarios, he's partially responsible for collapsing the economy. I don't trust him at all
2) It's not more deadly than the flu, it will end up having about exactly the same death rate, maybe less
3) Agree with first part but I would bet younger/healthy people survive this at a better rate than the flu.
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1) He considers worst case scenarios because he is a doctor, not a cheerleader after all. In any way blaming him for "collapsing the economy" is hyperbole at best and just plain dumb at worst. More than anything else, it appears you are bitter because Dr. Fauci has contradicted Trump on some statements and he has refused to paint a rosy picture for recovery. That is silly.

2) That is really hard to say, because COVID-19 is so new. There is a certainty involved with a seasonal flu. We know a lot about them and what to expect each season. By contrast, very little is known about the new coronavirus, so it is still something of a wild card.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I never said CNN and it’s reporters are unAmerican ... I just say they are ignorant and running a business model that’s is and has been failing . If they can’t figure out what is causing it , they don’t deserve to make it as a business.
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Wrong on both counts.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Governors and Trump listened to him way too much. He likes being relevant so he uses worse case scenarios. Listen to him fine, but Trump should have said "thanks for your thoughts but we aren't shutting the country down over this." Governors enjoy the power of being able to tell the people what they can/can't do.
We don't shut the country down over the flu, death numbers will end up being about the same maybe even less with CV-19. Hospitals don't get overrun because we don't have the media and politicians pushing false numbers and causing havoc and panic among the people
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Of course he looks at worst case scenarios. He's also talked about best case and base case scenarios. He's essentially functioning as a risk adviser in this situation and is laying out all the potential scenarios to the people in charge. If you want to pass blame for the economy shutting down, blame Trump and the state governors who you think listened too much to him, since they ultimately are the trigger people.

You think the hospitals are overrun purely because of media panic? Meaning what...you think there's a ton of people in them who shouldn't be there?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
1) He considers worst case scenarios because he is a doctor, not a cheerleader after all. In any way blaming him for "collapsing the economy" is hyperbole at best and just plain dumb at worst. More than anything else, it appears you are bitter because Dr. Fauci has contradicted Trump on some statements and he has refused to paint a rosy picture for recovery. That is silly.
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Point 1 is not accurate. He has major skin in the game. His job is to relay to his superior confidence levels of where we would hit doing this versus that. To have 30 plus years in, he appears to have blown chunks.
 
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lawgator1 said:
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Move out of Florida
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Just got laid off from work. Would like to thank the media for blowing this out of proportion and making everyone believe the world is ending. Appreciate it
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Sorry....hope it's not for long...it's not much but make sure you sign up for unemployment soon as possible. Heard lots of ppl are having problems...also I read the stimulus checks may be going out next week if you qualify
 
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allvol123 said:
Point 1 is not accurate. He has major skin in the game. His job is to relay to his superior confidence levels of where we would hit doing this versus that. To have 30 plus years in, he appears to have blown chunks.
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His job is not to blow smoke and tell people only what they want to hear, rather than what is a professional opinion. "Major skin in the game" = further illustration that so many posters here are applying Trump's gambit of assigning everyone who disagrees with him, a political agenda.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
How about reality. Every level from city to county to state to federal ( i use swype and federal comes up as rectal... Go figure) Is in a total learning curve with this virus. No one has gotten it all correct and no one has gotten it all wrong.
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I get that, but the reality is Trump will toot his own horn like clockwork and his minions will be lemmiwinks.
 
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05_never_again said:
Of course he looks at worst case scenarios. He's also talked about best case and base case scenarios. He's essentially functioning as a risk adviser in this situation and is laying out all the potential scenarios to the people in charge. If you want to pass blame for the economy shutting down, blame Trump and the state governors who you think listened too much to him, since they ultimately are the trigger people.

You think the hospitals are overrun purely because of media panic? Meaning what...you think there's a ton of people in them who shouldn't be there?
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I am all about blaming everyone: Trump, Governors, media, social-media and these "experts"
I think a lot of people are running to get tested who don't need it. Very few hospitals are overrun, that's the exception and not the rule
 
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WHO Director hits back at Trump Threat to Defund agency

The head of the World Health Organization took aim at President Trump’s criticism of the agency on Wednesday, telling him and other world leaders not to politicize the coronavirus crisis “if you don’t want many more body bags.”

“If you don’t want many more body bags you refrain from politicizing it – please quarantine politicizing COVID,” WHO Director Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters in a lengthy answer when asked about Trump’s criticism of the agency. A day earlier, the U.S. president had threatened to cut off funding.

WHO director hits back at Trump threat to defund agency
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
His job is not to blow smoke and tell people only what they want to hear, rather than what is a professional opinion. "Major skin in the game" = further illustration that so many posters here are applying Trump's gambit of assigning everyone who disagrees with him, a political agenda.
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I never stated anything you just insinuated. Not sure why you're talking to the wall and quoting me. His professional opinions blew chunks.

To believe he is not deeply involved in what happened here takes a leap worthy of a Grand Canyon jump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
1) He considers worst case scenarios because he is a doctor, not a cheerleader after all. In any way blaming him for "collapsing the economy" is hyperbole at best and just plain dumb at worst. More than anything else, it appears you are bitter because Dr. Fauci has contradicted Trump on some statements and he has refused to paint a rosy picture for recovery. That is silly.

2) That is really hard to say, because COVID-19 is so new. There is a certainty involved with a seasonal flu. We know a lot about them and what to expect each season. By contrast, very little is known about the new coronavirus, so it is still something of a wild card.
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I don't care if they disagree or agree, he should be one opinion at that's all, nothing more. He shouldn't be the last word and for some reason for some he is the only voice some of you trust. Personally I think he's a little weasel.

Numbers will be flu-like. Nothing more.

As I said from the start this was pushed to crash the economy because your side has been begging for a recession.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
WHO Director hits back at Trump Threat to Defund agency

The head of the World Health Organization took aim at President Trump’s criticism of the agency on Wednesday, telling him and other world leaders not to politicize the coronavirus crisis “if you don’t want many more body bags.”

“If you don’t want many more body bags you refrain from politicizing it – please quarantine politicizing COVID,” WHO Director Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters in a lengthy answer when asked about Trump’s criticism of the agency. A day earlier, the U.S. president had threatened to cut off funding.

WHO director hits back at Trump threat to defund agency
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Not a smart move on his part.
 
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