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NCFisher said:
I'd want to see a link to that claim. I understood liver and renal failure to be evident in animal testing at far higher doses than humans would be prescribed. here was also talk of vision impairment but that is only a potential in continual use for a decade or more and even then can be managed.

Frankly, at the paltry $20 or so to treat a patient with it and possibly avoid a hospital stay costing $10s/1000s, and known to be uniformly well tolerated, I think anyone not trying it is a dumb a**. I think we're beyond the dismissive characterization of 'anecdotal'. Real fooking doctors are seeing real results, helping real patients.
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Well, you just give your pet mouse a whole bottle full, and see what happens. Killed my little Mickey.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have to say that there is some hypocrisy in this line of thinking. Trump certainly won't admit that he was wrong in minimizing the threat of the coronavirus to the American people in February. In fact, he will now deny that he even did minimize it, in spite of the video evidence to the contrary. My question is, why would you hold the media to a higher standard than you hold him? Does Trump make it a practice of admitting when he was wrong and his critics were right?
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No president does. Heck I cant think of any politician that does. This virus or anything else.
 
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McDad said:
I appreciate what FP brings. Long articles...admittedly with a right leaning bias. But he typical posts and dips. Don't think he sticks around for much debate.
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You're right. He drops in quickly, then goes back home to the wrong side of history
 
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Ashevolle said:
He was not the smartest businessman in the private sector. However, becoming president will make him Putin level rich. He just got unfettered access to $2 trillion dollars with zero oversight. Add that to the fact that he has zero problem with diverting that towards his selfish interests and the sky is the limit.
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Trump Removes Watchdog Overseeing Rollout of $2 Trillion Coronavirus Bill
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President Trump on Monday replaced the Pentagon's acting inspector general Glenn Fine, who had been selected to chair the panel overseeing the rollout of the $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill passed last month, Politico first reported.


Why it matters: A group of independent federal watchdogs selected Fine to lead the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee, but Fine's removal from his Pentagon job prevents him from being able to serve in that position — since the law only allows sitting inspectors general to fill the role.
(Axios.com)
 
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So this is fun. My business has picked up and I have asked my teams to reach out to furloughed employees and have them come back to work. Several said no bc they prefer to get the unemployment. Now I am going to call them tomorrow and say if you don’t come back in 24 hours I will notify the state that they are no longer furloughed but terminated for not reporting to work.
 
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volfanhill said:
So this is fun. My business has picked up and I have asked my teams to reach out to furloughed employees and have them come back to work. Several said no bc they prefer to get the unemployment. Now I am going to call them tomorrow and say if you don’t come back in 24 hours I will notify the state that they are no longer furloughed but terminated for not reporting to work.
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Go back to work or get nothing and like it
 
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Ashevolle said:
He was not the smartest businessman in the private sector. However, becoming president will make him Putin level rich. He just got unfettered access to $2 trillion dollars with zero oversight. Add that to the fact that he has zero problem with diverting that towards his selfish interests and the sky is the limit.
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Space force so he can get off this infected rock.
 
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volfanhill said:
So this is fun. My business has picked up and I have asked my teams to reach out to furloughed employees and have them come back to work. Several said no bc they prefer to get the unemployment. Now I am going to call them tomorrow and say if you don’t come back in 24 hours I will notify the state that they are no longer furloughed but terminated for not reporting to work.
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Lot of dynamics in play. To avoid penalty on the PPP you have to maintain head count and wages, here you have head count choosing not to come back in order to stay on the cheese.
 
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Ashevolle said:
He was not the smartest businessman in the private sector. However, becoming president will make him Putin level rich. He just got unfettered access to $2 trillion dollars with zero oversight. Add that to the fact that he has zero problem with diverting that towards his selfish interests and the sky is the limit.
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lmao I hope they have you on meds cause you're crazy.
 
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allvol123 said:
Lot of dynamics in play. To avoid penalty on the PPP you have to maintain head count and wages, here you have head count choosing not to come back in order to stay on the cheese.
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I don’t believe our ceo is planning on needing/wanting the money. He secured another bank loan of $260 million yesterday. Gives us over a billion in cash and we have reduced our burn rate to a little over $20 million a week. He is not pleased at all with the terms the government wants for a loan.
 
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volfanhill said:
I don’t believe our ceo is planning on needing/wanting the money. He secured another bank loan of $260 million yesterday. Gives us over a billion in cash and we have reduced our burn rate to a little over $20 million a week. He is not pleased at all with the terms the government wants for a loan.
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What kind of business are you in? Just curious since you said business has increased.
 
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allvol123 said:
What kind of business are you in? Just curious since you said business has increased.
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We are way down from where we typically are. Restaurants. I furloughed around 700 people. We probably furloughed close to 130,000 company wide across all brands. But business went from 90% down to now 65% down. And it looks to be increasing by about 10% this week. Our President says he thinks we might get back to 50% of where we were prior to this.
 
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Weezer said:
lmao I hope they have you on meds cause you're crazy.
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You think Trump is above directing some of this stimulus to his own hotels? He awarded the G-7 Summit to his Doral resort in Miami... but later caved to public pressure. If we have learned anything about Trump, it is that he is willing to test the limits of self-enrichment.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Ahh.. what would you consider this, satire? Just bad advisors?
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If I were trying to hang Trump by his shorts, I'd call it the worst argument I could have chosen.

Jan 11/12 - U.S. gets the virus genome sequencing and CDC begins developing test protocol​
Jan 14 - The WHO states there was no evidence of human-human transmission​
Jan 20 - Human transmission is confirmed.​
Jan 21 - There are 555 worldwide cases. On this day the first U.S. case is found, using the CDC new test protocol.​
Jan 21 - A. Fauci: "Obviously we need to take it seriously and do the kinds of things that the CDC and DHS are doing, but this is not a major threat for the people in United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about” ​

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Jan 22 - On a scale of 1-10, how worried should Trump be the following day?​
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Jan 26 - "The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable. "It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about." ​
Feb 17 - Fauci "I don't think people should be frightened, the risk right now, today currently is really relatively low for the American public. But that could change with China and other countries, this could evolve into a global pandemic, which would have significant implications for us. We don't want people to worry so be more worried about influenza which is going through a second peak." Risk of coronavirus in U.S. is 'minuscule' NIH's Dr. Anthony Fauci says ​
Feb 29 - Restated what he's been saying all month of Feb, things could change but don't worry, no need to change anything you're doing. Dr. Fauci on coronavirus fears: No need to change lifestyle yet​
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Mar 27 - Director Redfield agreed with Dr. Fauci's assessment, saying that at that time in January the information coming out of China suggested "they were pretty certain that this was not transmitted human to human."​
"Obviously that became corrected as they saw in the first three, four weeks in January that human to human spread was not only occurring it's actually, as I said, more infectious and I think that led to the situation that we're in today. I think no one could have predicted how transmissible, how infectious this virus really is," he added.​
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Again, through Jan and Feb, Trump and the task force medical/pandemics are on the same page.​
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It doesn't get better for your argument in March, either.​
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