Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[RockyTop85]

Really? I missed it, dang

Pretty sure she was being serious. She has made other posts critical of universal/mandatory vaccination.

Maybe I’m misreading the whole conversation.

 

[luthervol]

they really werent necessary here either, at least not all over the US

I hope it turns out that they were not necessary.
Bottom line is that theoretically it could be necessary (if not this time, then next) and someone has to make the call.

 

[DynaLo]

Is that legal? I'm not sure how stout that limb is.
But we are straying from the original debate.
What should be done to someone who has tested positive, told to self quarantine, but refuses?[/QUOTE]

Well, it’s an iffy situation, but public health and safety is involved due to how highly contagious this crap is. So....since we can’t board or weld them into their dwellings

If under mandated orders, slap a house arrest ankle bracelet on them with a huge fine attached to each transgression and if unable to pay the fine jail time results.

If just told to keep your rear end home, first time out gets you that court mandated order.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

How about this angle?

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski suspects 'financial tie' has Trump pushing anti-malaria drug

Let's not rule that out. However, if we are going to question Trump's motives, then what are Fauci and Cuomo's motives?

 

[DancingOutlaw]

How about this angle?

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski suspects 'financial tie' has Trump pushing anti-malaria drug

Putin paid back Trump for being his puppet by sending a virus to China knowing that Trump owned stock in the company that makes the drug that stops the virus.

This is so completely obvious I don’t see how he isn’t under arrest already.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

How about this angle?

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski suspects 'financial tie' has Trump pushing anti-malaria drug

Major Producer of Hydroxychloroquine Once Paid Michael Cohen Hefty Sum for Access to Trump

 

[DC_Vol]

Let's not rule that out. However, if we are going to question Trump's motives, then what are Fauci and Cuomo's motives?

I was being facetious. I think his motivation was most likely 1) show potential progress for his admin 2) give some measure of hope

 

[0nelilreb]

I would have issue working alongside someone who tested positive specifically because of the increased risk to my family.

What’s the difference in working along side tested positive people , and people that haven’t been tested at all ?

 

[luthervol]

Good answers.

 

[DC_Vol]

Major Producer of Hydroxychloroquine Once Paid Michael Cohen Hefty Sum for Access to Trump

Trump is paying him off bigly. Wicked genius move to tie this to a potential Wuhan cure.

 

[LouderVol]

How come?

Jmo and not hers, obviously. But dependency, and evolution.

We are in a constant arms race with diseases. While having the flu wont help with Covid, the body being used to doing some fighting on it's own is a good thing. And I am willing to bet as with most things our body will round off it's own ability to fight diseases if it doesnt face as many. Jmo.

Secondly the arms race part of creating super bugs. Create a better vaccine and mother nature will just create a better disease.

I kinda see it similar to my completely non scientific belief on cancer. I believe cancer has always been around. It's just other diseases killed us off before we got to cancer territory. Now that we have removed those other diseases and expanded our window of possible infections we are seeing more cases of stuff we didnt in the past. Ie cancer in this particular case.

Also, again the fairly unscientific belief I have, that some diseases fight or at least limit the spread of others. Remove a lower one and invite a higher one.

 

[LouderVol]

Sorry about that. You responded to my response to Dancingoutlaw.
We deviated so far from the original point of the conversation I got confused.

It happens.

Still curious about why you are concerned about HIPAA? Finally found the one straw too many?

 

[luthervol]

What’s the difference in working along side tested positive people , and people that haven’t been tested at all ?

??????? What? Seriosly??
People that have tested positive have the virus and people who have not tested positive probably do not.

 

[LouderVol]

How would I go about doing that?

Lol. So we are ruining people's lives without any sort of proof that our actions ruining their lives is better than another.

Amazing that even the champions cant defend their stance.

 

[DC_Vol]

Lol. So we are ruining people's lives without any sort of proof that our actions ruining their lives is better than another.

Amazing that even the champions cant defend their stance.

I almost pointed out this very thing but have resigned myself to the fact that people aren’t changing their minds.

 

[0nelilreb]

??????? What? Seriosly??
People that have tested positive have the virus and people who have not tested positive probably do not.

Luther seriously ? Think about that for a second and think about all the people right now that’s still working together that haven’t had the test .

 

[LouderVol]

Let's not rule that out. However, if we are going to question Trump's motives, then what are Fauci and Cuomo's motives?

Or Frances?

 

[LouderVol]

I almost pointed out this very thing but have resigned myself to the fact that people aren’t changing their minds.

There is a world of difference in KNOWING this is the only thing that will work, vs this MIGHT work maybe based on no evidence. And apparently our rights were fair game in the unsubstantiated beliefs.

 

[Matt2496]

 

[DC_Vol]

There is a world of difference in KNOWING this is the only thing that will work, vs this MIGHT work maybe based on no evidence. And apparently our rights were fair game in the unsubstantiated beliefs.

Liberties snatched based on faulty models.

It’s probably the same jackasses that do the climate change modeling.

 

[lawgator1]

And Trump will show how actual results beat the predicted modeling. We won't end up suffering the deaths or hospital bed shortages that were predicted

You mean when we had 15 and he predicted it would be zero soon?

Or any of his other nonsensical ramblings about it being "very much under control?"


Oops.

 

[luthervol]

It happens.

Still curious about why you are concerned about HIPAA? Finally found the one straw too many?

I'm not overly concerned with it.
I don't really care if they put a temporary ban on it and start immediately notifying employers the names of the employees that test positive.
I've consistently supported the concept that some individual rights may have to be scaled back a tad during this time for the sake of society at large.

Sort of like an employer telling a sick employee not to come to work, even if that employee feels willing and able, for the sake of the company as a whole.

 

[Weezer]

I'm sure every boss has made the decision that anyone who has tested positive should stay away, because it only makes since and is in the greater interest.

Now how about Kroger? Would they be within their right to say that anyone who has tested positive can not enter their store until they have gone through the appropriate period of quarantine?

Businesses have the right to refuse service, IMO.

 

[luthervol]

Lol. So we are ruining people's lives without any sort of proof that our actions ruining their lives is better than another.

Amazing that even the champions cant defend their stance.

Or you could say we are saving thousands of lives by paying a temporary financial price.

 

[lawgator1]

It's the natural progression of things, these TV reality stars have to stick together. Next we'll have Boston Rob from Survivor advising the President on economic recovery.

I am sure it is, sadly, on the radar.