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Weezer said:
How many people lose their inheritance? He took his and built on it. That doesn't mean he hasn't had screw ups along the way, but he didn't just sit on his inheritance. He did something with it and increased his wealth. Seems dumb to just poopoo that because you don't like the guy.
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he started with a lot of money and a company and built in it. Good for him but more would go up from there than losing it all. Heath Shuler made money in real estate but I'm never going to want him making life and death decisions for me
 
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vols40 said:
No one said anything about H1N1 until the left threw 💯 of the blame for Covid 19 on President Trump once impeachment was exposed as fraudulent. Remember back when we were forced to close the world during the H1N1 outbreak? Me to those were some of the toughest times in our nation's history
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Brownie Attacks Obama Administration’s Response To Swine Flu: Officials Are Just Crying ‘Chicken Little’

So it really is just the right denies anything that has to do with facts.
 
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utvolpj said:
he started with a lot of money and a company and built in it. Good for him but more would go up from there than losing it all. Heath Shuler made money in real estate but I'm never going to want him making life and death decisions for me
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What life and death decisions have been made for you by a President?
 
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utvolpj said:
he started with a lot of money and a company and built in it. Good for him but more would go up from there than losing it all. Heath Shuler made money in real estate but I'm never going to want him making life and death decisions for me
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don't forget we have checks and balances.
 
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Weezer said:
Then why do other countries and their responses keep getting brought up? If the countries that supposedly had a better response are relevant, then all countries are relevant. Not just the ones that prove your point.
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fair enough.....italy followed the same playbook as the US. They did not shut the country down until it got really bad. By then it was too late.
 
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Weezer said:
Then why do other countries and their responses keep getting brought up? If the countries that supposedly had a better response are relevant, then all countries are relevant. Not just the ones that prove your point.
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True and not all countries are dealing with this under the same conditions as others.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
we're not talking about Italy....we are talking about the US response. Don't throw your back out moving those goalposts.
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They have to move the goalposts in an effort to convince themselves that Trump is doing a good job. Trump has moved the goalposts himself:

Trump: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done"

Then he says this:

Trump: “So if we can hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000, it’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000, so we have between 100 [thousand] and 200,000, we altogether have done a very good job.”

That's not leadership, that's incompetence.
 
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utvolpj said:
he started with a lot of money and a company and built in it. Good for him but more would go up from there than losing it all. Heath Shuler made money in real estate but I'm never going to want him making life and death decisions for me
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Actually most people who inherit wealth don't build on or increase it.
 
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utvolpj said:
he started with a lot of money and a company and built in it. Good for him but more would go up from there than losing it all. Heath Shuler made money in real estate but I'm never going to want him making life and death decisions for me
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Do you want any President making life and death decisions for you? I don't.

And I've heard plenty of stories of people blowing their inheritance, so I'm not sure saying more would go up than down is accurate.

What I do know is Trump inherited $413 million, took it, did his own thing, made his own decisions, and now he's a billionaire. And President to boot. Not too shabby. He's pompous and arrogant, but that doesn't take away from the fact he succeeded. And that's despite the many past failures people bring up to attack him. He found ways to survive and thrive. JMO, but that deserves some kind of respect.
 
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hog88 said:
It's not "ok" to lock-in anyone against their will. Give the people the information and let them decide the best course of action for themselves.
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Since the beginning of this many have said we should have quarantined the elderly that are more likely to die from this and let everyone else go on about their business, I thought that's pretty much what was being said in the comment I quoted.

And right or wrong, letting everyone just decide what the best course of action for themselves wouldn't have turned out well. Yea I know, it hasn't turned out well the way its been done, but obviously it wasn't gonna be good no matter what.

It what is now.
 
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Weezer said:
Do you want any President making life and death decisions for you? I don't.
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of course not but that's the power being given to them by useless party politics. It's what other voters want i guess

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What I do know is Trump inherited $413 million, took it, did his own thing, made his own decisions, and now he's a billionaire.
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could have easily been done through sitting on stock market returns. But hey, he didn't blow hundreds of millions and was on TV.

I think we're seeing what kind of leader he truly is now. At least I hope some are seeing it
 
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Weezer said:
Do you want any President making life and death decisions for you? I don't.

And I've heard plenty of stories of people blowing their inheritance, so I'm not sure saying more would go up than down is accurate.

What I do know is Trump inherited $413 million, took it, did his own thing, made his own decisions, and now he's a billionaire. And President to boot. Not too shabby. He's pompous and arrogant, but that doesn't take away from the fact he succeeded. And that's despite the many past failures people bring up to attack him. He found ways to survive and thrive. JMO, but that deserves some kind of respect.
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When you consider the fact that he started with $413m, he actually isn't a great investor. Passively investing that money in the stock market (I know he wasn't given $413m in cash that he could have immediately put all in the market, but the principle still holds) since the early 80s would have yielded him much more than his current net worth, which supposedly is something like $3 billion. He's made 7-8x his money in about 40 years. The S&P is up almost 22x since 1980.

He certainly knows a hell of a lot more about business and the real world that other politicians, but his own track record on real estate investing is very mixed - he's had some stuff do really well and some stuff fail rather spectacularly, particularly his big miscalculation with his Atlantic City casinos.
 
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TN Ribs said:
They have to move the goalposts in an effort to convince themselves that Trump is doing a good job. Trump has moved the goalposts himself:

Trump: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done"

Then he says this:

Trump: “So if we can hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000, it’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000, so we have between 100 [thousand] and 200,000, we altogether have done a very good job.”

That's not leadership, that's incompetence.
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How would you describe Pelosi's leadership when urging people to come out to Chinatown in mid-February? Also incompetence?
 
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