Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[LouderVol]

It’s still approved for other uses.

Example - My kid is currently taking a prescription anti-histamine, on a half-dose. It’s side effect is increased appetite. His doctor prescribed it to him because she is concerned about his weight. He doesn’t have any allergy problems.

If the doctor wants to prescribe it, then so what. They know what the side effects are, and it is in fact FDA approved for something and not some experimental medicine that nobody really understands.

when I was about 1 I had viral meningitis. I was allergic to the only medicine, one ingredient at least, approved for infants. For one reason or another I ended being given a medicine that had never been approved to treat viral mengitis for young children.

This type of stuff definitely happens in life saving situations.

Cant believe people are arguing against the right to try.

 

[vols40]

Wrong , Right , Wrong , personal choice to be there when you could just move .

First response of less access to healthcare could not be more wrong

 

[RikidyBones]

Meanwhile others are tackling real issues

 

[Weezer]

Pat Robertson has isolated the source of the coronavirus.

He's not a cunning linguist, apparently.

 

[hog88]

I get it , makes sense .. but you can’t fake a handshake .

Nope and hopefully it dies out.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

The Republicans can run commercials of how many lives Trump saved by being the first world leader to block flights from China (on Jan 31st) and then show Joe Biden's criticism of it when he called such a move xenophobic. Advantage: Trump

how many lives did he save? Because as of 9 this morning, there are 9,654 people that have died. The banning international travel was a good move.....what followed was a clusterf**k.

 

[Wireless1]

non sequitur.

And what makes it "non sequitur" I ask a question?

 

[1972 Grad]

Its not so much that the drug is dangerous, its that morons see something that looks like it on a cleaning chemical bottle and figure why not lets give it a shot!

I still think that the woman gave a dose to her husband to kill him, and took just a touch for herself to make it look like an accident.

 

[vols40]

when I was about 1 I had viral meningitis. I was allergic to the only medicine, one ingredient at least, approved for infants. For one reason or another I ended being given a medicine that had never been approved to treat viral mengitis for young children.

This type of stuff definitely happens in life saving situations.

Cant believe people are arguing against the right to try.

Awesome story. Thanks for sharing.

 

[lawgator1]

1. Link
2. You still need a prescription to get it. You're acting like it's the box next to the tylenol

1. He said it just yesterday at the press conference. Do your own research.

2. Then why did he suggest using it up front? Why stockpile 90 million pills of the stuff? Yeah, people only take prescription meds in this country with an actual prescription.

3. What is wrong with you?

 

[allvol123]

So after we told entire families to shelter in place for weeks, and knowing in many of those situations a carrier was in some of these families, why have we not seen thousands of examples of entire families infected with this?

 

[hog88]

Less access to healthcare. Tighter living arrangements. Less economic resources to self-isolate. Need to use public transportation. Prevalence in jobs that are not working remotely.

The poor getting hit the hardest during a pandemic, this must be a new phenomena.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I can’t think of anything worse

The hospitals are used to those with psych issues

 

[hog88]

when I was about 1 I had viral meningitis. I was allergic to the only medicine, one ingredient at least, approved for infants. For one reason or another I ended being given a medicine that had never been approved to treat viral mengitis for young children.

This type of stuff definitely happens in life saving situations.

Cant believe people are arguing against the right to try.

If Hillary were POTUS they would be singing a different tune.

 

[lawgator1]

when I was about 1 I had viral meningitis. I was allergic to the only medicine, one ingredient at least, approved for infants. For one reason or another I ended being given a medicine that had never been approved to treat viral mengitis for young children.

This type of stuff definitely happens in life saving situations.

Cant believe people are arguing against the right to try.

No one is arguing against "right to try." Quit trying to dumb it down to that.

Trump is not touting this as a last ditch effort, right to try. He's way overstating its efficacy and disregarding safety risks.

We all hope it works. That's not the point. The point is, its too early to know if it is helpful, or whether the side effects outweigh the benefits in these cases, as a regular part of the treatment regimen.

 

[0nelilreb]

First response of less access to healthcare could not be more wrong

I always enjoy listening to arguments about black and Latino communities being “ stuck in poverty and or in bad situations, not being able to escape it “ while thousands of Brown people , every single day both legally and illegally come from a whole different country sometimes two countries away into this country to escape poverty and bad situations” .

 

[Weezer]

I can’t think of anything worse

I'm all for gay/trans rights. People should have the right to live their lives as they choose. But worrying about being "mislabeled" in the hospital when you're fighting what can be a fatal disease, that's just ridiculous. Let them save your life, then go back to letting it be a concern when you survive and get out.

 

[hog88]

1. He said it just yesterday at the press conference. Do your own research.

2. Then why did he suggest using it up front? Why stockpile 90 million pills of the stuff? Yeah, people only take prescription meds in this country with an actual prescription.

3. What is wrong with you?

How will people get the drug without a prescription? think the Mexican cartels will go into the chloroquine production business?

 

[1972 Grad]

Pat obviously didn't get around when he was young, maybe there are some older members on the forum that can support or rebut his assertions.

That has to be a joke. It has been around as long as I have . That may be anecdotal.

Edit: Didn't some actor come out and say he got mouth cancer from oral sex with his wife? Who was that? It was a few years ago.

 

[vols40]

how many lives did he save? Because as of 9 this morning, there are 9,654 people that have died. The banning international travel was a good move.....what followed was a clusterf**k.

What followed? Are you talking about on 2/19/20 Dr Fauci saying Americans were not at risk of Covid 19 and should go about their lives? Bill Deblasio on 3/5/20 telling New Yorkers who at the time were unknowingly spreading it at an alarming rate? Nancy Pelosi on 2/24/20 encouraging Californians to come out and join us?

 

[McDad]

Uh yes, I'm quite aware of this. However people are dying daily in NY, this was put on a fast track so some fast track feedback should be expected. The few tests we heard about around the world, no matter how small they were appear to have some positive feedback.
If you're dying and the medical staff says we have this drug we could try, I don't think most people would say. Nah i'm not trying some unproved medication, I'll just call it a life.
NY has an opportunity, they are the test kitchen and we don't have a lot of time for months long testing.

Trump's administration passed a "right to try" law which gave patients the permission to try experimental or untested therapies. The situation with covid 19 and medications could be the first large-scale application of that law.

 

[Wireless1]

Perhaps, after consultation with my physician. If he had more than anecdotal evidence of its efficacy and that his evidence based approach to off label prescribing had a higher likelihood of good effects versus bad.

As most of us would.

 

[vols40]

How will people get the drug without a prescription? think the Mexican cartels will go into the chloroquine production business?

Lower doses of fish tank cleaner?

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

 

[RikidyBones]

1. He said it just yesterday at the press conference. Do your own research.

2. Then why did he suggest using it up front? Why stockpile 90 million pills of the stuff? Yeah, people only take prescription meds in this country with an actual prescription.

3. What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with me? You make a claim of Trump saying something and given your terrible record on comprehension, its necessary for you to link it.

You're honestly arguing that people illegally obtaining prescription drugs is a reason to blame Trump? Are you slow? You're so deep in your anti trump BS that any neuron that was associated with rationale has just turned off.