Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

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volfanjustin said:
All good, I didn’t link what you did so thanks for that. My post was about a guy who had terminal cancer and then caught the virus they listed the virus as the cause of death
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You have no way of knowing where this guy was in his cancer fight. My Dad fought terminal cancer for four years with chemo and radiation. Corona virus would have killed him had he caught it during his struggle with cancer.
 
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NCFisher said:
Here's the study: 'Mitigating the Impact of Pandemic Influenza through Vaccine Innovation' The Council of Economic Advisers September 2019 https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conte...emic-Influenza-through-Vaccine-Innovation.pdf

It's a boilerplate discussion of vaccine production preparedness. Period. There's no imminent or specific warning. The study notes four influenza pandemics have occurred in 100 years and that we should look at ways of decreasing vaccination response times and deviate from egg production. In short, there is no actionable intel regarding COVID-19 or any pandemic, and therefore nothing to 'heed' regarding the U.S. outbreak. No surprise; that is the very nature of pandemics.

But man! - wasn't that a good meme while it lasted!
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As far as the memes that I see, it's much better and far more honestly accurate than most.
Since the study focuses on vaccines, were there actions taken on the bolded recommendations?
After all, it does seem as if the development of a vaccine is the only thing that is going to end this.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Liberals and Conservatives that believe in God are starting to discuss God's pleasure or displeasure with things that are happening in the world. This is a long discussion that cannot be solved in short posts nor do I have the energy to tackle it with my thoughts.

Consider we are at Palm Sunday going into Good Friday and Easter with a worldwide Pandemic. Though it started in China, where it started is not as important as the fact it started. Each year society turns it's back on God more and more with more acceptable immortality. At a personal level, there are numerous things I need to get better at as a person.

Maybe if the discussion progrOfficial Counts Understate the U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll sses then I will get more engaged. I'm not sure if it's being discussed in the Bible thread.
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It figures that you would be ignorant about God, too.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Liberals and Conservatives that believe in God are starting to discuss God's pleasure or displeasure with things that are happening in the world. This is a long discussion that cannot be solved in short posts nor do I have the energy to tackle it with my thoughts.

Consider we are at Palm Sunday going into Good Friday and Easter with a worldwide Pandemic. Though it started in China, where it started is not as important as the fact it started. Each year society turns it's back on God more and more with more acceptable immortality. At a personal level, there are numerous things I need to get better at as a person.

Maybe if the discussion progresses then I will get more engaged. I'm not sure if it's being discussed in the Bible thread.
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I sort of subscribe to Conan the Barbarian's version of mans relations to God(s).
..He dwells on a great mountain. What use to call on him? Little he cares if men live or die. Better to be silent than to call his attention to you; he will send you dooms, not fortune! He is grim and loveless, but at birth he breathes power to strive and slay into a man's soul. What else shall men ask of the gods?

Well, I'm gonna' go slay a bowl of guac and chips, now - hail Crom!
 
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evillawyer said:
Coronavirus deaths are likely being undercounted, not overcounted.

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Even if true, IF True, then we are still counting anybody that dies, regardless of cause, as a COVID-19 death if they test positive.

We do know, for a fact, that underlying causes are the contributor to death and the majority of people that don’t have underlying issues aren’t dying. To just assume there are a lot more deaths to healthy people we don’t know about is dumb.

These daily death numbers are more reflective of problems with COPD, diabetes, respiratory illnesses, and other chronic conditions. There is nothing in the data, NOTHING, that suggests that if those with chronic illnesses were healthy they still would have been killed by corona.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Momentum grows to change medical supply chain from China

Calls are growing for the U.S. to reduce its dependence on China for key medicines and supplies as Americans face widespread shortages in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

While the U.S. supply chain's heavy reliance on China for medical manufacturing has been glaringly apparent for roughly two decades, both lawmakers and administration officials say the virus has exposed just how vulnerable the country is as it leans on Beijing and other nations to help provide the tools necessary to combat the pathogen.

Peter Navarro, President Trump’s economic adviser, pledged this week that the United States would move away from its reliance on other nations and towards building up its own capabilities to produce drugs and medical supplies.

The concern is bipartisan. Three Senate Democrats backed legislation put forward by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) last month that advocates for the U.S. to reprioritize its productive capability in order to achieve less supply-chain dependence on China, particularly as it relates to products used in the federal health care system.

Their concerns followed the 2019 annual report from the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, which warned Congress that U.S. consumers, including the military, are “heavily dependent” on China for drugs and active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs), arguing that this “presents economic and national security risks.”

Altogether, the U.S. imported more than $12.7 billion worth of pharmaceuticals and antibiotics, medical devices and food products from China in 2018, according to Rubio, who wrote a February op-ed warning about the U.S. reliance on China. He noted that these numbers do not reflect APIs. China is believed to supply roughly 80 percent of APIs to the U.S.

Momentum grows to change medical supply chain from China
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If anything, this would be one of the positive consequences of this fiasco. Bring back these jobs to America.
 
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