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[Zues1]

I think they have a piss bag attached that when they go it goes into the bag.....like when you're in the hospital.
I can't imagine racing for 3-4 hrs and not stopping to pee somewhere..

No wonder Danika Patrick was so bad, she was always looking for somewhere to stop and squat.

 

[volbeast33]

Tell her she is appreciated.... Can she ship biscuits and chocolate gravy?

My mother in law makes that every time we are in..... delicious

 

[Coug]

Already posted more than once.

The Captain knew what he was doing and knew full well the consequences. He also knew the consequences of doing less than he did.

Not judging if he was wrong or right, but what he did, did take courage.

The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High" is a good study in difficult command and personal choices.

If the captain had a proactive commander in chief and not a carny handed, mango man only out for himself that ship would have gotten prioritized attention a lot quicker. Further proof that even active duty personnel mean nothing to the idiot in charge.

 

[37L1]

If the captain had a proactive commander in chief and not a carny handed, mango man only out for himself that ship would have gotten prioritized attention a lot quicker. Further proof that even active duty personnel mean nothing to the idiot in charge.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Prove he was involved in any way.

I'll bet you that those above him who reviewed the Captain's requests held their positions in the military long before Trump was President. What they decided to do and not do, did not involve the President.

Did you know that there was an Admiral assigned to this ship and on board at the time of the outbreak? I'm sure the Captain made him well aware of his assessment of the situation and looks like he got nowhere. Where was the Admiral in all of this?

This has to do more with the inherent bureaucracy in the Navy (and all military, government and most businesses) and when a bureaucracy is involved, it usually is slow moving and moribund by the mass of CYA. It is not easy to take a main ship like this off of its mission and removal of all its crew without approval of many layers of command. To my knowledge this has never happened for this reason before, causing another impediment to a swift and probably life saving response.

Once again, the Captain did what he felt compelled to do, despite the personal consequences. That took courage.

Now prove that President Trump was involved in this in any way. Back up your assertions with links, if you would be so kind.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Prove he was involved in any way.

I'll bet you that those above him who reviewed the Captain's requests held their positions in the military long before Trump was President. What they decided to do and not do, did not involve the President.

Did you know that there was an Admiral assigned to this ship and on board at the time of the outbreak? I'm sure the Captain made him well aware of his assessment of the situation and looks like he got nowhere. Where was the Admiral in all of this?

This has to do more with the inherent bureaucracy in the Navy (and all military, government and most businesses) and when a bureaucracy is involved, it usually is slow moving and moribund by the mass of CYA. It is not easy to take a main ship like this off of its mission and removal of all its crew without approval of many layers of command. To my knowledge this has never happened for this reason before, causing another impediment to a swift and probably life saving response.

Once again, the Captain did what he felt compelled to do, despite the personal consequences. That took courage.

Now prove that President Trump was involved in this in any way. Back up your assertions with links, if you would be so kind.

You will defend donald no matter what. The truth is, donald's inaction was on full display for everyone to see. Leadership flows from.the top down. He is the commander in chief, so everything stops at him. Although his supporters cast blame at everyone or anything, which is crazy, because conservatives say they are the party of personal responsibility. I guess that is "me not thee".

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Coronavirus: NBA wants players to take 50 percent pay cut, union counters with 25 percent, per report

 

[Weezer]

If the captain had a proactive commander in chief and not a carny handed, mango man only out for himself that ship would have gotten prioritized attention a lot quicker. Further proof that even active duty personnel mean nothing to the idiot in charge.

This isn't on Trump, as much as some of you would like it to be. This is established protocol for going outside the chain of command. Could Trump step in like he did with the Seal and reinstate the Captain? I suppose, but the decision to relieve him of command wasn't on Trump. Truthfully, I doubt it was solely the SecNav. More than one voice would have went into the decision, but the decision would have been made at a lower level than the President. The military disciplines their own, and this captain violated protocol. You can disagree with the decision, but he's not the first to be punished for going outside the CoC, and it's incorrect to blame Trump.

 

[Mick]

You will defend donald no matter what. The truth is, donald's inaction was on full display for everyone to see. Leadership flows from.the top down. He is the commander in chief, so everything stops at him. Although his supporters cast blame at everyone or anything, which is crazy, because conservatives say they are the party of personal responsibility. I guess that is "me not thee".

I've never seen republicans do anything but try to blame democrats for something, investigate dems for something, push trickle down tax policies, and block the presidential powers to appoint judges when it's a democrat leading the country. The rage they displayed when Obama did his bailouts, and the crickets now sum up their principles.

 

[Septic]

Already posted more than once.

The Captain knew what he was doing and knew full well the consequences. He also knew the consequences of doing less than he did.

Not judging if he was wrong or right, but what he did, did take courage.

The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High" is a good study in difficult command and personal choices.

I agree, good for the Captain to take care of his sailors. But at that level, you're a company man and know how things work - he knew full well that it'd cost him his job. We should all applaud him for having the courage to make the choice. Its a bad situation and an infuriating but oddly understandable outcome.

 

[Weezy]

So I was curious how deaths were being counted. Looks like most numbers are any deaths while the patient had Covid or was judged to be probable that they had Covid. Meanwhile, the models are also off by a factor of 10. So this seems to be an instance of statistics fitting a narrative.
Coronavirus: Why death and mortality rates differ

But the official counts which will have some significant lag will be good to look at. Particularly, how many more people in general are dieing.
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

 

[Weezer]

You will defend donald no matter what. The truth is, donald's inaction was on full display for everyone to see. Leadership flows from.the top down. He is the commander in chief, so everything stops at him. Although his supporters cast blame at everyone or anything, which is crazy, because conservatives say they are the party of personal responsibility. I guess that is "me not thee".

More like you will blame Trump no matter what. If you stub your toe while walking around your house, you probably yell "Damn Trump!". Being the CiC doesn't mean he makes every decision. The military has protocol that goes back to the formation of this country. Ignoring that makes you look like an idiot. And it's funny, not long ago, people were complaining about him interfering with military justice.(which I agreed with and thought was justified) Now they're complaining because he didn't interfere with military justice. You'd seem a lot more credible if you actually assigned blame based on deservedness rather than just blanketing blame on Trump. This was about going against military protocol, and had nothing to do with Trump.

 

[Purple Tiger]

And Trump will not re-open Obamacare enrollment.

 

[Weezer]

I agree, good for the Captain to take care of his sailors. But at that level, you're a company man and know how things work - he knew full well that it'd cost him his job. We should all applaud him for having the courage to make the choice. Its a bad situation and an infuriating but oddly understandable outcome.

I will say this, if Trump had no qualms about interfering with military justice in the case of that Seal, he could easily do the same here. I thought he was wrong in that instance, and still do, but if that was worthy of his attention, I could look past him doing it here. Though I do fully believe President's need to stay out of military justice. This Captain is far more worthy than that Seal was. But what he did was still wrong as defined by protocol. There's a reason the rules and regs exist and are expected to be followed, and it's never a good look when someone in the command structure sets such an example of blatantly disregarding them, even if it was for the welfare of those under his command.

 

[DynaLo]

Did something change that I haven’t seen yet?

I read where the Captain simply got relieved of his command onboard the ship and reassigned.

He didn’t get kicked out of the military or mandatorily retired and there was no rank or pay reduction involved yet there’s all this hysterical squawking about how he got fired.

It’s almost as if folks are deliberately being misled by a certain groups hoping they don’t understand how the military actually works. What could possibly be the reason for that?

 

[37L1]

You will defend donald no matter what. The truth is, donald's inaction was on full display for everyone to see. Leadership flows from.the top down. He is the commander in chief, so everything stops at him. Although his supporters cast blame at everyone or anything, which is crazy, because conservatives say they are the party of personal responsibility. I guess that is "me not thee".

Your TDS is on full display. You'll attack Trump for anything that happens, no matter what.

Prove Trump was involved in any way in this incident. Include all supporting documentation such as links, if you wouldn't mind.

Maybe he first learned about the Roosevelt from "the news" like his predecessor did on many prior incidents during his administration.

I suppose, following your logic, Obama was responsible for the Ft. Hood shooting by Major Hassan? And the classification of "work place violence" instead of "terrorist attack" in review after the fact. Well, maybe, for the last part he was . . . Or Obama was responsible for Benghazi? And blaming it on a viral video on youtube after the fact. Well, maybe, for the last part he was . . .

Wait there's more.

 

[volfanjustin]

 

[37L1]

I've never seen republicans do anything but try to blame democrats for something, investigate dems for something, push trickle down tax policies, and block the presidential powers to appoint judges when it's a democrat leading the country. The rage they displayed when Obama did his bailouts, and the crickets now sum up their principles.

And the Democrats don't blame Trump, Bush, etc.? Do you even want to go into the subject of investigations, really? That's almost, no, it is, ironic. Talk about rage. . . from day one.

 

[Weezer]

Did something change that I haven’t seen yet?

I read where the Captain simply got relieved of his command onboard the ship and reassigned.

He didn’t get kicked out of the military or mandatorily retired and there was no rank or pay reduction involved yet there’s all this hysterical squawking about how he got fired.

It’s almost as if folks are deliberately being misled by a certain groups hoping they don’t understand how the military actually works. What could possibly be the reason for that?

I don't disagree, but he'll still have a mark on his record just for being relieved of command. He did the wrong thing for the right reasons, which makes this a bitter pill to swallow IMO.

 

[0nelilreb]

I've never seen republicans do anything but try to blame democrats for something, investigate dems for something, push trickle down tax policies, and block the presidential powers to appoint judges when it's a democrat leading the country. The rage they displayed when Obama did his bailouts, and the crickets now sum up their principles.

The irony of you specifically saying this is so thick , it’s hard to breath .

 

[Stew Cook]

Did something change that I haven’t seen yet?

I read where the Captain simply got relieved of his command onboard the ship and reassigned.

He didn’t get kicked out of the military or mandatorily retired and there was no rank or pay reduction involved yet there’s all this hysterical squawking about how he got fired.

It’s almost as if folks are deliberately being misled by a certain groups hoping they don’t understand how the military actually works. What could possibly be the reason for that?

Yeah, reassigned is the scuttlebutt. He'll probably end up as a Tugboat captain if he doesn't lose his commission. I have little doubt that Trump perceives the swell of support from the rank and file, that went viral, as a personal assault.

As Trump loses support of the military I wouldn't be surprised he he makes it harder for them to vote in the upcoming election. You know, "can't allow mail in votes, because they'll cheat".

 

[37L1]

Yeah, reassigned is the scuttlebutt. He'll probably end up as a Tugboat captain if he doesn't lose his commission. I have little doubt that Trump perceives the swell of support from the rand and file, that went viral, as a personal assault.

As Trump loses support of the military I wouldn't be surprised he he makes it harder for them to vote in the upcoming election. You know, "can't allow mail in votes, because they'll cheat".

Your suppositions are more like wishful thinking, no?

 

[Stew Cook]

Your suppositions are more like wishful thinking, no?

I'm confident. Do you have a counter view?

 

[Weezer]

Yeah, reassigned is the scuttlebutt. He'll probably end up as a Tugboat captain if he doesn't lose his commission. I have little doubt that Trump perceives the swell of support from the rank and file, that went viral, as a personal assault.

As Trump loses support of the military I wouldn't be surprised he he makes it harder for them to vote in the upcoming election. You know, "can't allow mail in votes, because they'll cheat".

Again, another dumbass feeling the need to make it about Trump when it's not about Trump.

 

[0nelilreb]

Yeah, reassigned is the scuttlebutt. He'll probably end up as a Tugboat captain if he doesn't lose his commission. I have little doubt that Trump perceives the swell of support from the rand and file, that went viral, as a personal assault.

As Trump loses support of the military I wouldn't be surprised he he makes it harder for them to vote in the upcoming election. You know, "can't allow mail in votes, because they'll cheat".

Wtf stew , you went all in on that one didn’t cha ? First as crazy as it may seem , he wouldn’t make it as a tug captain . They are completely different people with different skill sets . I know it seems odd but it’s true . Secondly .. really ? Trump is losing the military so he’s going to just stop them from voting ? What movie did you watch last night and did it involve a lot of drinking on your part ?

 

[MOOOOONEY]

And Trump will not re-open Obamacare enrollment.

I think there’s this thing called COBRA that allows employees that are laid off to pay for and keep their health insurance. I’m sure if an employee loses their job and can’t afford COBRA coverage then they may qualify for Medicaid.

Why would Obamacare enrollment be reopened?