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BeecherVol said:
Interesting.

Then you have this. Today

"Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

2 months ago after Trumps travel ban, you had this.

“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,”

Oh well. Either the light finally went off or somebody close to him just wrote a response and didnt tell him. If he can get through Nov without having to comment on anything his chances of winning will double automatically.
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How Trumpesque of him. What we have here is our Democrat Trump.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I posted this earlier. What do you think about this?

Scientist in 'Germany's Wuhan' says coronavirus not spread as easily as thought
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They have a great tracking response. Monitoring and following the first 1000 positive is an ample study base to draw conclusions from.
Early conclusion from them not finding covid on surfaces would definitely lend to aerosolized viral shedding as the route of transmission. Given that the virus attacks the lungs, my own thoughts are the same. I'll check into the covid envelope and how sturdy it is to survive on surfaces.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Lol!! So you actually thought Trump deserved props for elevating the government’s subject matter experts (or at least the ones that were left after he cleaned house) and not just appointing Eric, Don Jr, and Jared to the pandemic task force?

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Yeah ok I can actually see that, based on his track record.
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You know why you don't see the CDC subject matter experts anymore? Because fair or unfair, their failure to deliver a working test protocol all the way into March, means they've no credibility. I think that is specifically why Birx was brought in and Fauci made more visible.

And no, Trump didn't kill the pandemic team.
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Fmr. NSC official: The WH didn’t ‘dissolve’ pandemic response office, but made it stronger. ‘I was there.’
On Friday in the midst of the global coronavirus crisis, one-time Obama appointee to the National Security Council (NSC) Beth Cameron wrote in a Washington Post op-ed that the Trump administration’s response to COVID-19 had been “slow and inadequate.” She suggested the reason for that was the closure of the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense.

But on Monday, Tim Morrison, former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council responded in the Post in an editorial entitled, “No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.”

“It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness,” wrote Morrison. “Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.”

“It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction,” he continued.

He pointed out that former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who served in the Obama administration, agreed with congressional oversight committees and other members of the Obama administration that the NSC had grown too large and needed a course correction from being too operationally focused. He referenced a 2015 Post article that found between the time of the Clinton administration and the second term of the Obama administration, NSC staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.”

“That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017,” wrote Morrison.

Sweeping away the fog, he told how a reorganization within the NSC actually resulted in a stronger directorate.

“One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate,” said Morrison, “which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.”

He went on to insist that even with a continuing effort underway to trim the NSC fat, “it has left the biodefense staff unaffected — perhaps a recognition of the importance of that mission to the president, who, after all, in 2018 issued a presidential memorandum to finally create real accountability in the federal government’s expansive biodefense system.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/
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This lie has not quite reached the repetitious scale of "neo-Nazis are fine people", but with a little bit of elbow grease by the left, I'm confident they can reach their goals!
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
I didn't know that was Billy Bob until a lot later on in years afterwards.....he can change his appearances.

Just look above at him there in that character ^^^^^^^^ that's amazing.
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Ever seen the movie Dead Man? Johnny Depp western. Billy Bob has a cameo with Iggy Pop.

Weird Movie, but pretty amazing.
 
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NCFisher said:
You know why you don't see the CDC subject matter experts anymore? Because fair or unfair, their failure to deliver a working test protocol all the way into March, means they've no credibility. I think that is specifically why Birx was brought in and Fauci made more visible.

And no, Trump didn't kill the pandemic team.
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Fmr. NSC official: The WH didn’t ‘dissolve’ pandemic response office, but made it stronger. ‘I was there.’
On Friday in the midst of the global coronavirus crisis, one-time Obama appointee to the National Security Council (NSC) Beth Cameron wrote in a Washington Post op-ed that the Trump administration’s response to COVID-19 had been “slow and inadequate.” She suggested the reason for that was the closure of the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense.

But on Monday, Tim Morrison, former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council responded in the Post in an editorial entitled, “No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.”

“It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness,” wrote Morrison. “Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.”

“It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction,” he continued.

He pointed out that former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who served in the Obama administration, agreed with congressional oversight committees and other members of the Obama administration that the NSC had grown too large and needed a course correction from being too operationally focused. He referenced a 2015 Post article that found between the time of the Clinton administration and the second term of the Obama administration, NSC staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.”

“That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017,” wrote Morrison.

Sweeping away the fog, he told how a reorganization within the NSC actually resulted in a stronger directorate.

“One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate,” said Morrison, “which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.”

He went on to insist that even with a continuing effort underway to trim the NSC fat, “it has left the biodefense staff unaffected — perhaps a recognition of the importance of that mission to the president, who, after all, in 2018 issued a presidential memorandum to finally create real accountability in the federal government’s expansive biodefense system.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/
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This lie has not quite reached the repetitious scale of "neo-Nazis are fine people", but with a little bit of elbow grease by the left, I'm confident they can reach their goals!
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Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?
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It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.
 
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