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Hunerwadel said:
The bottom fell out during the campaign in '07. Remember McCaine cancelling campaign stops to rush back to Washington and save the day? Factories were shutting down and laying off workers like crazy in '07 before the election.
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I forgot about him suspending his campaign for a time. It was brutal but this will end up being worse on the economy
 
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Weezer said:
The policies the left pushes are not business friendly and will hinder any recovery. They'll push all the "green" stuff, which will cost businesses even more, probably result in fewer jobs, and probably put some people completely out of business. Of course, that will lead them to increase entitlement programs, which they'll love, resulting in more people reliant upon the government for their livelihood. But that's all JMO.
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1) Biden does not strike me as one to "push" policies which are so difficult that they really have much effect.

2) Don't be so short sighted. A more eco-friendly economy now might have a small effect on economic growth for the moment but pay off huge dividends longer term.

3) There are plenty of opportunities to make money promoting more eco-friendly approaches to business. Just because a car manufacturer who is slow to retrofit to accommodate battery technology suffers in the short term is no reason not to allow a Tesla to prosper.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I'm afraid this thing is going to make 2007 look like a picnic
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Went back and read the situation. That sucks, man. Will they at least get some relief from the $1200, i.e. will they qualify?

We are all going to feel the effects over time. The UE numbers are going to be staggering. Like I said the other day, $2 trillion is not nearly enough. Its going to have to be $10 trillion. And the housing market? We were primed for a cyclical downturn anyway ...
 
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lawgator1 said:
1) Biden does not strike me as one to "push" policies which are so difficult that they really have much effect.

2) Don't be so short sighted. A more eco-friendly economy now might have a small effect on economic growth for the moment but pay off huge dividends longer term.

3) There are plenty of opportunities to make money promoting more eco-friendly approaches to business. Just because a car manufacturer who is slow to retrofit to accommodate battery technology suffers in the short term is no reason not to allow a Tesla to prosper.
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Ever looked at what goes in to producing those batteries and electric cars?

Electric cars 'pose green threat'


Not exactly as eco friendly as you think.

Biden has been pushed left by the Sandersdistas/Warrenistas. Some of his "political promises" in his campaign speeches would not be friendly to an economic recovery.

No, I'm not going to list them. You are capable of doing so yourself, not that it would make any difference in your thinking if you were to do so.
 
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37L1 said:
Ever looked at what goes in to producing those batteries and electric cars?

Electric cars 'pose green threat'


Not exactly as eco friendly as you think.

Biden has been pushed left by the Sandersdistas/Warrenistas. Some of his "political promises" in his campaign speeches would not be friendly to an economic recovery.

No, I'm not going to list them. You are capable of doing so yourself, not that it would make any difference in your thinking if you were to do so.
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Just an example.
 
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LouderVol said:
What's a little surreal for me is that we have taken a pay cut but I am just as busy as before.

It just has me wondering what happens when things actually get slow for my office.
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Try not to waste energy wondering and worrying. It rarely helps anything. In times like these, we need to focus on being thankful that we have today.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Just an example.
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I get you.

There will be time for that later. As soon as we can, to mitigate the harm all of this has done to people, we need to get up and running as quickly as possible, put people back to work right now. We don't really have the luxury to put the future too far out ahead of the now.
 
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lawgator1 said:
1) Biden does not strike me as one to "push" policies which are so difficult that they really have much effect.

2) Don't be so short sighted. A more eco-friendly economy now might have a small effect on economic growth for the moment but pay off huge dividends longer term.

3) There are plenty of opportunities to make money promoting more eco-friendly approaches to business. Just because a car manufacturer who is slow to retrofit to accommodate battery technology suffers in the short term is no reason not to allow a Tesla to prosper.
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Pretty sure Telsa is doing fine. Green tech has been making money under Trump, just like everyone else.

You are trying to solyndra the whole market. It doesnt work. The best way to ensure we end up there is to not force the issue. Speaking of Telsa what Musk did was perfect. He created demand for his batteries by creating a market for nice EVs. He has forced the rest of the industry to adjust.

That works. The government just throwing money at green tech doesnt work.

We have recent evidence of both in the same industry. Follow the effing evidence.

Musk and Telsa are the ones of us in the building industry sitting here like Jeff Goldblum "you crazy sob, you actually did it".
 
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Fauci under attack from the right.

This is disturbing, to say the least.

Medical Expert Who Corrects Trump Is Now a Target of the Far Right

An analysis by The New York Times found over 70 accounts on Twitter that have promoted the hashtag #FauciFraud, with some tweeting as frequently as 795 times a day. The anti-Fauci sentiment is being reinforced by posts from Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, a conservative group; Bill Mitchell, host of the far-right online talk show “YourVoice America”; and other outspoken Trump supporters such as Shiva Ayyadurai, who has falsely claimed to be the inventor of email.
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On YouTube, conspiracy-theory videos about Dr. Fauci have racked up hundreds of thousands of views in the past week. In private Facebook groups, posts disparaging him have also been shared hundreds of times and liked by thousands of people, according to the Times analysis. One anti-Fauci tweet on Tuesday said, “Sorry liberals but we don’t trust Dr. Anthony Fauci.”
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This is what worries me the most and is exactly why I have been so critical of Trump. His dismissiveness, his calling the State Department the "Deep State," and crap like that just feeds this narrative that the virus isn't that big a threat.

Adding that Dr. Fauci is bearing the brunt of the attacks, Mr. Bergstrom said: “There is this sense that experts are untrustworthy, and have agendas that aren’t aligned with the people. It’s very concerning because the experts in this are being discounted out of hand.”
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lawgator1 said:
Went back and read the situation. That sucks, man. Will they at least get some relief from the $1200, i.e. will they qualify?

We are all going to feel the effects over time. The UE numbers are going to be staggering. Like I said the other day, $2 trillion is not nearly enough. Its going to have to be $10 trillion. And the housing market? We were primed for a cyclical downturn anyway ...
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Thank you, yes they will qualify so that is some good news

I agree, I am guessing there will be another package coming down the pike very soon. Housing market will likely crash. Crazy times, scary times.
 
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volbeast33 said:
That is not the bill you were referring to earlier but on this particular bill..... Rand tried pushing through an amendment that he knew had no chance of passing and voted no on the bill that didn’t include his amendment knowing that it would pass with ease.... he might be different but I have my doubts.... I don’t stick with any kind of party line.... I vote who I think is the best candidate period.
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It's pretty ridiculous to dismiss his record with excuses that "he knew it would pass anyway" and "he tried to pass an unpassable amendment". All we have are his record and his words, which are consistent, and you're just guessing that he's not what he appears. There are major consequences to his political career for taking these positions...for example, he'll never have RNC support for POTUS. He'll never get beyond senator and he's also passing up on many potential donors. He's paying the price for his principles.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fauci under attack from the right.

This is disturbing, to say the least.

Medical Expert Who Corrects Trump Is Now a Target of the Far Right






This is what worries me the most and is exactly why I have been so critical of Trump. His dismissiveness, his calling the State Department the "Deep State," and crap like that just feeds this narrative that the virus isn't that big a threat.
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This post contains so much BS.

No one likes the bearer of bad news, it's as simple as that.

Our country/society has had to adjust to accepting the extreme nature of what this virus is bringing to us, that effects both a physical and mental state.

We should quarantine the hot spots. It's logical and exactly what the People's Republic of China did. What was the reaction when that concept was floated? DeBlasio just about had a stroke. Can't blame him.

When Trump curtailed all travel from China, what was the reaction to that? Pelosi and the gang labeled "racist." Inappropriate.

When we were told to stay home and not go to work, social distance, curtail all unnecessary travel, etc. . .? Hard pill to swallow.

No one likes this radical change in our life status. We all have balked at it and some have vented towards those "responsible", be it, Dr. Fauci, Donald Trump, Communist China.

We are all looking for someone to blame for such a nasty predicament. Still, it doesn't justify it and it sure as hell doesn't need to be brought up as if it is all one side or the other. It's divisive and really not helping one damn thing. You aren't going to change those fools and trying to paint others with the same broad brush is a reflection on you.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fauci under attack from the right.

This is disturbing, to say the least.

Medical Expert Who Corrects Trump Is Now a Target of the Far Right






This is what worries me the most and is exactly why I have been so critical of Trump. His dismissiveness, his calling the State Department the "Deep State," and crap like that just feeds this narrative that the virus isn't that big a threat.
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He probably shouldn't be political in his line of work. If nobody knows that, they have no basis for their stance.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fauci under attack from the right.

This is disturbing, to say the least.

Medical Expert Who Corrects Trump Is Now a Target of the Far Right






This is what worries me the most and is exactly why I have been so critical of Trump. His dismissiveness, his calling the State Department the "Deep State," and crap like that just feeds this narrative that the virus isn't that big a threat.
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This is the same sh!t that goes on everyday. Trump creates the reality that must be adhered to. Too many cracks in this doctrine, and the whole thing collapses under the weight of reality.
 
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