Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Jimmy Football]

That is an excellent point, and I'm glad you framed it that way. I'm extremely worried about the economy. I think the best path forward from here is to get the infection numbers as low as possible immediately. Then, we can re-open with mitigation efforts. Aggressive case monitoring and contact tracing. Regional shut-downs may be necessary.

All with the goal of getting to a vaccine. Re-opening after the first curve doesn't get us there. If cases go back up again, many people won't go out--government mandate or not. The economic pain continues. Get to the vaccine. Keep yourself healthy.

Anyone who thinks life and the economy was going to chug along while our hospitals were being overrun and refrigerator trucks were being used is kidding themselves.

I’ve just noticed that a lot of people (here and elsewhere) have been getting upset at other people because they feel they’re prioritizing the “wrong” aspect of this crisis.

The truth is though, in these sorts of situations, it’s good to have different people who are vocal about various concerns, be it for people’s health, economic health, social well-being, civil rights, or whatever. Makes it much less likely that you end up throwing the baby out with the bath water in one direction or the other.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Seriously, thanks for the correction. I have no excuse so I am blaming it on COVID stress.

At least you didn't embarrass yourself on national television.

we're journalist; we don't do mathy stuff

 

[drvenner]

At least you didn't embarrass yourself on national television.

we're journalist; we don't do mathy stuff

The tic tac and gumball tweet is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.

 

[GiggerVol]

Do what you can and don't take unnecessary risks. That's all I can ask of anyone. We all have our obligations. Just take the best care of yourself you can. Not everyone can shelter in place. I get that.

But take care of yourself, McGill. We're going to need you on the other side of this thing.

That goes for all you other morans here.

Wished I had thought quickly enough to snap a pic and post it here but I saw a local uber driver in front of our local Kroger the other day that had his driver seat compartment sealed up with clear plastic tighter than Dick's Hat Band!

 

[GiggerVol]

Do what you can and don't take unnecessary risks. That's all I can ask of anyone. We all have our obligations. Just take the best care of yourself you can. Not everyone can shelter in place. I get that.

But take care of yourself, McGill. We're going to need you on the other side of this thing.

That goes for all you other morans here.

Seriously McGill, you and your wife are in my thoughts and prayers and a sincere thank ya'll for what you both do. Stay safe and healthy out there!

 

[ColoradoVol8]

 

[Pepe]

And 675 K in 1918 flu

 

[jakez4ut]

I get the worry. I worry about eroding individual rights, the taking of privacy, and other measures we've seen come through over time.

This isn't one of those times for me. This is actively, tangibly saving lives. Still, I can understand the idea of keeping an eye on that issue as we move through this thing.

i dont' disagree with that.
keeping an eye on it, or having a general awareness is one thing...........operating under the notion that it is happening, and that this is the vehicle being used to get it done, and ultimately, that's the REAL goal of these measures......not stopping the spread....is entirely another........and taking it a step further and saying that there should be NO mandates, simply for fear that COULD happen? nah.

in none of my statements on this, have i said "it should be like this permenantly"....lol...and no one is arguing for that....

special/unique situation....special/unique measures. starts and ends there for me.

and until i see something tangible indicating any of that other stuff is happening...i'm of the opinion it's worrying about the wrong thing entirely right now.

 

[jakez4ut]

You sure?

 

[RikidyBones]

Look what happened to Joe Exotic.

#FreeJoeExotic

 

[jakez4ut]

No I don't, but I don't think the prospect of government overreach concerns you nearly enough. It is as dangerous, or even more dangerous than thos stupid virus.

Do you want to take a guess at how many people were killed, and were often tortured extensively before being killed, in the previous century be their own governments enforcing "Law"..." for the welfare of the people"..?

Covid-19 if let run completely wild would never come close in a hundred years.

Government overreach scares me way more than any virus ever will.

it concerns ME enough.......................................................don't project your fears on me!

 

[RikidyBones]

i dont' disagree with that.
keeping an eye on it, or having a general awareness is one thing...........operating under the notion that it is happening, and that this is the vehicle being used to get it done, and ultimately, that's the REAL goal of these measures......not stopping the spread....is entirely another........and taking it a step further and saying that there should be NO mandates, simply for fear that COULD happen? nah.

in none of my statements on this, have i said "it should be like this permenantly"....lol...and no one is arguing for that....

special/unique situation....special/unique measures. starts and ends there for me.

and until i see something tangible indicating any of that other stuff is happening...i'm of the opinion it's worrying about the wrong thing entirely right now.

Arresting a pastor for opening the church doors IS tangible. Prior to that, i would have agreed with you. When I will worry is if it is deemed ok by the courts. Then I'll truly worry but I hope it's not.

Imagine your position if it happens again but you dont agree with the measures. There is precedent at that point.

 

[SSVol]

I’ve just noticed that a lot of people (here and elsewhere) have been getting upset at other people because they feel they’re prioritizing the “wrong” aspect of this crisis.

The truth is though, in these sorts of situations, it’s good to have different people who are vocal about various concerns, be it for people’s health, economic health, social well-being, civil rights, or whatever. Makes it much less likely that you end up throwing the baby out with the bath water in one direction or the other.

I agree. Balance is good. Debate is healthy.

There are extremes that are unhealthy though. When I hear someone advocating a position that would result in *millions* of people in the US dying, I feel compelled to push back against that. Particularly when it involves killing some of our weakest citizens. Not much daylight between that and genocide. Even if it is theoretical, some positions are simply morally wrong.

 

[chargervol]

and it all started with some dummie in FL doing something stooopid....stop me if you've heard this one before.......lol.

Can't like the post again. So just gonna requote this section, because I'm still laughing.

The "Florida man" thing has been insane

 

[ColoradoVol8]

This video is amazing

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Arresting a pastor for opening the church doors IS tangible. Prior to that, i would have agreed with you. When I will worry is if it is deemed ok by the courts. Then I'll truly worry but I hope it's not.

Imagine your position if it happens again but you dont agree with the measures. There is precedent at that point.

Give the government an inch and they'll take a mile. I'm sure they've noted how readily people accepted these orders against leaving their homes or gathering in groups.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Speak for yourself, brah. My farts are migratory, persistent and righteous.

No tofu in this man's diet.

 

[jakez4ut]

It isnt the sith until it is and when it is, it's too late. See Venezuela, Cuba, Russia and many examples throughout history.

It would add a color to my rainbow if we could get through something like this and we go right back to life before but history tells us that itll be unlikely.

There is an avenue to have less bureaucracy by ridding of Chinas hold, by breaking away from WHO and other "world" organizations (which have seemed the most corrupt), etc. I hope we come out of this without much regret.

i think on a macro level, there are several really important lessons we could/should learn as a result of this whole ordeal....on that we probably find some common ground.

i just think it's a gigantic leap to go from "covid19 preventative measures"....to....."well, here we go.....we're coming out of this with a facist dictatorship".

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

This video is amazing

They don't miss a beat....and the viewers go right along with them.

 

[Kristy*]

Arresting a pastor for opening the church doors IS tangible. Prior to that, i would have agreed with you. When I will worry is if it is deemed ok by the courts. Then I'll truly worry but I hope it's not.

Imagine your position if it happens again but you dont agree with the measures. There is precedent at that point.

Tampa megachurch pastor arrested after leading packed services despite 'safer-at-home' orders

". . . the key is that the restrictions are only enforced temporarily and that religious institutions are not unfairly targeted."

"The state attorney even quoted Mark 12:31 in making his point. 'There is no more important commandment than to love thy neighbor as thyself,' Warren preached. 'Loving thy neighbors is protecting them, not jeopardizing their health by exposing them to this deadly virus.'”

 

[GiggerVol]

One of the pharmacy techs at our local Walmart tested positive yesterday as did an employee at Mt. Juliet City Hall. And 5 of the twenty five Gallatin Nursing Home patients who were transferred to our local hospital who initially tested negative in Gallatin before being moved are now showing signs and being re-tested. The crap is everywhere!

Update on this: 3 of the 5 have now tested positive and awaiting the results from the other 2. And since my wife came within 2 ft of each of them, she is now required to wear a mask all day since she was "exposed",

 

[RikidyBones]

i think on a macro level, there are several really important lessons we could/should learn as a result of this whole ordeal....on that we probably find some common ground.

i just think it's a gigantic leap to go from "covid19 preventative measures"....to....."well, here we go.....we're coming out of this with a facist dictatorship".

That leap is sponsored by an actual arrest. That's it. I dont disagree with the preventative recommendations. I agree with them. But overreach is a fine line. You want to believe "this cant happen here" despite that fact that it has already. I will not prolong this discussion as I will agree to disagree.

 

[barrylee]

Holy ....

I'm not sure when the peak of Covid19 will be but we may have found the pinnacle for melodrama

I'll keep all the genocidal sociopathic historical events in mind..
but gonna go ahead and see if we can pull thru this ~ hangout at home for 2 weeks policy, before putting my rebel against the evil empire britches on.

Absoeffinglutely!!

 

[RikidyBones]

Tampa megachurch pastor arrested after leading packed services despite 'safer-at-home' orders

". . . the key is that the restrictions are only enforced temporarily and that religious institutions are not unfairly targeted."

"The state attorney even quoted Mark 12:31 in making his point. 'There is no more important commandment than to love thy neighbor as thyself,' Warren preached. 'Loving thy neighbors is protecting them, not jeopardizing their health by exposing them to this deadly virus.'”

I dont agree with opening the church. I also dont agree with the arrest or mandated restrictions.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Tampa megachurch pastor arrested after leading packed services despite 'safer-at-home' orders

". . . the key is that the restrictions are only enforced temporarily and that religious institutions are not unfairly targeted."

"The state attorney even quoted Mark 12:31 in making his point. 'There is no more important commandment than to love thy neighbor as thyself,' Warren preached. 'Loving thy neighbors is protecting them, not jeopardizing their health by exposing them to this deadly virus.'”

What about the pastor's 1st Amendment right to assembly?