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[happy-go_vol]

I get that no drug (or drug combination) is ever perfectly safe. I'm sure there are risks with this cocktail as well. And you want to go through studies to see its efficacy and safety. But how great are the risks for drugs that have been widely and safely prescribed for years? Can't be that bad I wouldn't imagine.

Im sure when its over, you guys will be fishing for class action lawsuits against those same companies who created these drugs.

 

[USF grad in TN]

History of Quarantine | Quarantine | CDC

“The practice of quarantine, as we know it, began during the 14th century in an effort to protect coastal cities from plague epidemics.”

Lev 13:1-4, 46 (The Test for Leprosy)

13 Then the Lord spoke to Moses and to Aaron, saying, 2 "When a man has on the skin of his body a swelling or a scab or a bright spot, and it becomes an infection of leprosy on the skin of his body, then he shall be brought to Aaron the priest or to one of his sons the priests. 3 "The priest shall look at the mark on the skin of the body, and if the hair in the infection has turned white and the infection appears to be deeper than the skin of his body, it is an infection of leprosy; when the priest has looked at him, he shall pronounce him unclean.

46 "He shall remain unclean all the days during which he has the infection; he is unclean. He shall live alone; his dwelling shall be outside the camp.

NASU translation

 

[happy-go_vol]

Israel was also quarantined when God sent his angel of death in egypt.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

I get that no drug (or drug combination) is ever perfectly safe. I'm sure there are risks with this cocktail as well. And you want to go through studies to see its efficacy and safety. But how great are the risks for drugs that have been widely and safely prescribed for years? Can't be that bad I wouldn't imagine.

Every drug commercial you hear on TV these days, side effects may include but not limited to 4 hour Bonner, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting blood, cancer, migraines, growing boobs, shrinking boobs and in some cases death but ask your doctor today about said meds!

 

[bnhunt]

It is 85% leaning to the right but do you hold Democrat’s to the same standard as Trump?

Sure. If Trump were a Democrat, which he has been most of his life, I would be just as critical. If Kasich had been the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have probably voted from him over HRC, but there is no way I could vote for Trump. He is dangerous and not competent for this job and I really think any rational person who takes off their partisan glasses can see that.

 

[BeecherVol]

Well since we are now at "save every life" stage in the political world, are we going to allow this behavior for people with terminal illnesses?

I am betting we dont. Their stories dont incite enough fear.

Not sure what you re getting at.

Trump felt the drug was promising, the MSM like they typically do went the other direction.

Had he said the drug was "untested", "Can't be trusted" and or "shouldn't be used". The next day headlines "Trump gives up on drug that can save lives".

That was my point.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Sure. If Trump were a Democrat, which he has been most of his life, I would be just as critical. If Kasich had been the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have probably voted from him over HRC, but there is no way I could vote for Trump. He is dangerous and not competent for this job and I really think any rational person who takes off their partisan glasses can see that.

it is amazing the lengths people go to defend donald. It's as if they see a piece of themselves in his actions.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

An "editing mistake" that's called getting caught red handed....MSM cannot be trusted in doing the right thing.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

Well since we are now at "save every life" stage in the political world

When there are politicians pushing for abortions to be essential I don’t believe we are quite there yet.

 

[bnhunt]

8 years of Obama.

Hahaha! What a joke. Obama is infinitely smarter and more equipped for something like this than Trump and it's not even close. Hell, Trump makes George W. almost seem competent.

 

[allvol123]

Not sure what you re getting at.

Trump felt the drug was promising, the MSM like they typically do went the other direction.

Had he said the drug was "untested", "Can't be trusted" and or "shouldn't be used". The next day headlines "Trump gives up on drug that can save lives".

That was my point.

Yea, I wasnt calling you out on anything.

I was calling out the political BS here. The FDA moves at a snail's pace on any other issue. Families in this country with terminally I'll members watch as their loved ones die from these terminal illnesses with no hope for anything. Now all of sudden, it's a damn free for all comparatively speaking. Which is how it should be.

 

[BeecherVol]

I get that no drug (or drug combination) is ever perfectly safe. I'm sure there are risks with this cocktail as well. And you want to go through studies to see its efficacy and safety. But how great are the risks for drugs that have been widely and safely prescribed for years? Can't be that bad I wouldn't imagine.

Its obviously working for some.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

Trump felt the drug was promising, the MSM like they typically do went the other direction.

They seriously used a story where a couple drank fish tank cleaner to try to show that the drugs Trump was promoting were dangerous.

Yeah the folks who have come out and said the drugs were helpful to them are full of sh!t but these folks right here who drank fish tank cleaner these folks are legit.

MSM is so transparent of their bias even in a crisis.

 

[hog88]

Sure. If Trump were a Democrat, which he has been most of his life, I would be just as critical. If Kasich had been the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have probably voted from him over HRC, but there is no way I could vote for Trump. He is dangerous and not competent for this job and I really think any rational person who takes off their partisan glasses can see that.

For someone "not competent" he's done a pretty decent job so far.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Hahaha! What a joke. Obama is infinitely smarter and more equipped for something like this than Trump and it's not even close. Hell, Trump makes George W. almost seem competent.

We all know you used your super glue to stay attached to your "Dear Leader" butt. That's a good little sheep.

 

[luthervol]

I would disagree. It’s about maybe 10% right wing, 85% leaning right and 5% on the edge of the cliff left.

30% far right, 50% lean right, 15% lean left, 5% far left

 

[BeecherVol]

They seriously used a story where a couple drank fish tank cleaner to try to show that the drugs Trump was promoting were dangerous.

Yeah the folks who have come out and said the drugs were helpful to them are full of sh!t but these folks right here who drank fish tank cleaner these folks are legit.

MSM is so transparent of their bias even in a crisis.

The media in general is a joke. Its no longer about facts and information but rather crafting a story that hammers the opposing party.

It truly sucks in a time like this were information is how you win this fight.

 

[Weezer]

Because they recognize a “policy“ dispute doesn’t really matter and you’ll get right back in line when it counts?

Most of the time, our leftist posters just want to engage in Trump bashing. They don't want discussion. They want everyone to agree with them and bash Trump. When they don't, they falsely get labeled Trumpers. Most posters, from what I've seen, can fairly discuss the shortcomings of both sides. Then you have a handful of die hard Trumpers, and a handful of liberals that refuse to admit the Dems can do any wrong.

 

[Weezer]

I think Zep and Luther are really good about discussing issues. Luther is way to the left but generally doesn't get into squabbles. Zep is more moderate. I don't agree with him politically very much but he is a very likable poster. However, there are some people and some days where people just want to argue...and they will argue about anything.

You're half right. Zep seems like a decent guy.

 

[Mick]

I get that no drug (or drug combination) is ever perfectly safe. I'm sure there are risks with this cocktail as well. And you want to go through studies to see its efficacy and safety. But how great are the risks for drugs that have been widely and safely prescribed for years? Can't be that bad I wouldn't imagine.

It's like this, This drug trial is not going to be the solution, it's a starting point just to treat symptoms. Marginal effectiveness is better than nothing but I hope it's significantly effective. Who knows @zeppelin128 's basement meth lab might save a life.

 

[McDad]

We are far closer to those economic numbers than we are the covid numbers. Bet it stays that way too.

You may be right. I am hearing about layoffs and firings more this week than any other so far in this mess.

 

[McDad]

Zep is a good dude that leans more right than he wants to admit.

Aint nothing wrong with being a little politically bi curious.

 

[hog88]

30% far right, 50% lean right, 15% lean left, 5% far left

Luther you consider anything right of the hammer and sickle to be far right.

 

[BeecherVol]

For someone "not competent" he's done a pretty decent job so far.

He'll get to much credit from some on what he did and didn't do.

And he'll get too much blame from others.

Honestly, there is probably not a lot of difference in where we are if Obama, Bush, Clinton or Bush are running things right now. It all depends on which "team" you pull for. Thats essentially what politics has diluted itself to.

 

[allvol123]

We should have done something like offer full pay for 5 weeks for anyone 50 and older that is employed, to stay home. Same offer to anyone with underlying risks of any age.

Something more strategic like this.