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bnhunt said:
You agree with him suppressing people's 1A rights simply because you don't like what they are asking him. I love the hypocrisy. Trump has turned all you people into blathering fools (assuming you weren't already).
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Who’s first amendment rights are being suppressed?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
why is most the money going to corporations instead of individuals and small businesses? Corporations just got a huge tax break not too long ago. The longer this is prolonged, the more expensive this will get. They could've done a shut down a month ago to stem the infection rate instead of dismissing it. The proscratination will have lasting affects. $1200 is nothing to a lot of working families....the money that is going to be lost by small businesses will cause many close. I am fortunate enough to be able to work anywhere with an internet connection, however it appears more than half of America is not that fortunate.
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What about all the unnecessary crap included in the bill? Could that have gone to help individuals and small businesses? Why are corporations on the evil hit list? They employ millions. GM , Dodge/Chrysler got a huge bailout several years back. Too big to fail?

How easy is it to Monday morning quarterback an unprecedented event? Particularly when you don't like the letter next to someone's name.
 
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GhostVol said:
Last time I tried to sew discontent I found out that the thread just pulled through ;-)

Seriously, though..... Don't you think the president should be above crappy little "tit for tat" childishness? Or is it OK as long as he's poking libs in the eye?

Shouldn't Trump be working to pull the country together rather than calling out reporters like a big baby? The man can't stand to be asked hard questions. I hate to tell him this but that goes with the territory. Every president (in my experience) gets that. Some of 'em get pissy about it but I can't remember any of them punishing constituents for it. But that seems to be his M.O.

I'm tired of people being OK with his screwing other people simply because they don't agree with him over petty crap, much less withholding crucial aid because...... reasons?

I had hopes that he'd rise above petty "screw you-ism" but he's shown that that's not in his nature. Now, unfortunately, it may cost lives.

But, that's OK as long as they're democrat lives...... (which, by the way, he ran as when he thought it would benefit him)
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The problem with your narrative is he didn't withhold crucial aid. That was a lie. You know, one of those things you claim to hate, but I've yet to see you call out the Michigan governor for. Rather, you're still running with it, rambling on about Trump. Blame Trump for the things he actually did, not the made up ****.

And yes, he should be above the childishness. So should the governors. So should the media. Why not call all of them out rather than limiting your outrage to just Trump? Oh right, narrative.

Your final line, Trump never ran for office as a Dem. Bernie is the one who's only a Dem when it suits him.
 
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Sea Ray said:
The example I'm using here is Michigan. In that state the governor IS standing in the way of this drug being used for Covid-19 treatment. I have a really hard time with that. Do you support what she's doing?
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She has threatened doctors licenses with legal action who prescribe the medication chloroquine. Trying to make other doctors report them. She's a piece of work. Most of the doctors in Michigan I know will do what's best for the pt.
The last 2 democratic female gov Michigan have had have been stone cold britches. I was ok leaving that state.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
What about all the unnecessary crap included in the bill? Could that have gone to help individuals and small businesses? Why are corporations on the evil hit list? They employ millions. GM , Dodge/Chrysler got a huge bailout several years back. Too big to fail?

How easy is it to Monday morning quarterback an unprecedented event? Particularly when you don't like the letter next to someone's name.
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Corporations got a letter next to their name? A month or few weeks shutdown will not hurt corporations, or should not. Yes they employ millions, but didn't they get a huge tax break a year ago? What did they do with those savings? Are you saying that corporations need more help than small businesses or individuals?
 
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McDad said:
I'm just glad LG and others are finally indignant about politicians lying. Hopefully this new standard of integrity will persist even after a Democrat is elected.

(But we all know full well it won't be).
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They don’t seem to call out Biden for his constant babble nor do they seem as concerned about his sexual misconduct claim.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
They need to stop interviewing nurses.

If you want to know the big picture of how the Healthcare system is holding up, ask hospital administrators.

Absolutely nothing against the nurses, they are absolutely carrying the country right now. But a nurse feeling overwhelmed and an entire hospital being overwhelmed are two wildy different things, and the media should stop conflating those things.
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You are correct. They should stop interviewing nurses. When you have 12 hours of getting your azz kicked, low on supplies, trying to follow the administration's 5th policy change for the week you aren't going to be objective.... At all. Newer nurses are more prone to freaking out. I go back tomorrow and I'm preparing for a shyte storm.
 
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Weezer said:
The problem with your narrative is he didn't withhold crucial aid. That was a lie. You know, one of those things you claim to hate, but I've yet to see you call out the Michigan governor for. Rather, you're still running with it, rambling on about Trump. Blame Trump for the things he actually did, not the made up ****.

And yes, he should be above the childishness. So should the governors. So should the media. Why not call all of them out rather than limiting your outrage to just Trump? Oh right, narrative.

Your final line, Trump never ran for office as a Dem. Bernie is the one who's only a Dem when it suits him.
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To the bolded, my apologies...... When he registered as a Dem I mis-remembered that he had already dropped out of the race. 20 year old memories.......
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Whataboutisms......what about Obama? Is Obama still President? President Obama has showed compassion and empathy in way more instances than donald. Has donald even acknowledged the Doctors, Nurses, or any other first responders? Every thing is about him.
And golf? In the middle.of a pandemic, orange cheeto went golfing.
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Since you're talking about how great Obama was/is, care to comment on when he was getting reporters and their sources jailed? You know, actual violations of the 1A's freedom of press. Decrying it as "fake news" isn't even close to a violation.

And it's not whataboutism since I'm piggybacking of your own comments. I know how people love to scream that to avoid answering the hard questions.
 
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GhostVol said:
Last time I tried to sew discontent I found out that the thread just pulled through ;-)

Seriously, though..... Don't you think the president should be above crappy little "tit for tat" childishness? Or is it OK as long as he's poking libs in the eye?

Shouldn't Trump be working to pull the country together rather than calling out reporters like a big baby? The man can't stand to be asked hard questions. I hate to tell him this but that goes with the territory. Every president (in my experience) gets that. Some of 'em get pissy about it but I can't remember any of them punishing constituents for it. But that seems to be his M.O.

I'm tired of people being OK with his screwing other people simply because they don't agree with him over petty crap, much less withholding crucial aid because...... reasons?

I had hopes that he'd rise above petty "screw you-ism" but he's shown that that's not in his nature. Now, unfortunately, it may cost lives.

But, that's OK as long as they're democrat lives...... (which, by the way, he ran as when he thought it would benefit him)
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A governor who accuses him of telling medical vendors not to sell medical supplies to MI is not "the country", nor childish to defend himself against the charge. It is "childish" and certainly NOT PULLING THE ***** COUNTRY TOGETHER for a governor to state such a slanderous accusation.

Trump should continue slapping down the lies and implied falsehoods by media. They've done it for nearly four years now, will not stop, and indeed are enemies of this country and instead are ideologues wed to a worldview. When they lie, they should be called liars.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Corporations got a letter next to their name? A month or few weeks shutdown will not hurt corporations, or should not. Yes they employ millions, but didn't they get a huge tax break a year ago? What did they do with those savings? Are you saying that corporations need more help than small businesses or individuals?
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Nope. Saying anyone using this national crisis to profit , throw in some goodies for themselves, or score political points are pieces of crap.

You question corporations use of funds ? You're ok with government spending? What they tried to sneak into the stimulus bill doesn't bother you?
 
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