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Ten_Titans said:
Lol, silly
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That’s where we would be until this virus ran it’s course . When you have more money / assets than your team of accountants can accurately count , you can pretty much run anything from your job yacht / island remotely . I bet he never wonders is Walmart has TP or hamburger meat . Like I said , I’m no hater just jealous . I’d still talk to y’all on here , just send me coordinates and I’d have a helicopter drop you off a crate full of TP and T-bone steaks , maybe some tannerite .
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
I'm sure there's a reason why you quit posting this graph in early March after referencing it several times while recoveries outpaced new cases, but I think this was probably the expectation of how the graph would develop as the virus spread from a singular country to the rest of the world and the recoveries lagged new cases by a couple of weeks (as deaths typically do also). I also think it will begin to look much more promising as recoveries will likely start to rapidly accelerate in the very near term. We are probably 4-6 weeks from peaking this season in the US, but I would expect to see recoveries start catching up fairly quickly.

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I stopped posting it because the data turned out to be wrong... recoveries weren't being reported just like on the covidtracking site many states are only posting positives and not total tests20200325_202416.jpg20200325_202403.jpg20200325_202348.jpg
 
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Opinion | Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?

If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.

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'Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?': Professors claim more data needed to know mortality rate
Two professors of medicine at Stanford University published an opinion article Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting there is little evidence that the coronavirus would kill millions of people without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines.
“Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate—2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others,” the article, headlined "Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?" and written by Dr. Eran Bendavid and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, reads. “So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.”
The deaths from identified positive cases are “misleading” because of limited data, according to the professors.
“If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far,” the professors argued.
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allvol123 said:
Why are the age spans so inconsistent? Not the percents, I mean why are they choosing to group in such irregular age ranges?
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Not really sure honestly. But that’s 80% under 65.

I’m guessing it’s a result of increased testing. Probably closer indication of disease in the whole population.
 
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Opinion | Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?

If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.

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'Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?': Professors claim more data needed to know mortality rate
Two professors of medicine at Stanford University published an opinion article Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting there is little evidence that the coronavirus would kill millions of people without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines.
“Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate—2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others,” the article, headlined "Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?" and written by Dr. Eran Bendavid and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, reads. “So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.”
The deaths from identified positive cases are “misleading” because of limited data, according to the professors.
“If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far,” the professors argued.
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newyorkvol said:
Interesting that more positives are >50

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My guess is there are way more positives out there that are not known and will never be known which would lower the death percentage greatly.
 
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DynaLo said:
They’re hacking them to handle up to 4 patients on one vent.🤷‍♀ Haven’t looked further into the how, but it’s gotta be risky as I’d think air flow parameters would need to match up between patients.
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You can't slam 2800 Vt through a ventilator. There's about 5 reasons this won't work. Minute ventilation, peep requirements, configuration by ideal body wt of each patient,
Each person requiring different tidal volumes, and lung compliance is different for each person. You could ventilate one just fine and kill the other 3.
I have cared for one person with 2 ventilators, one for the right lung and one for the left lung.
I think the "spokesperson" is full of it. But just to be sure, I'll read up on capabilities.
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
I'm sure there's a reason why you quit posting this graph in early March after referencing it several times while recoveries outpaced new cases, but I think this was probably the expectation of how the graph would develop as the virus spread from a singular country to the rest of the world and the recoveries lagged new cases by a couple of weeks (as deaths typically do also). I also think it will begin to look much more promising as recoveries will likely start to rapidly accelerate in the very near term. We are probably 4-6 weeks from peaking this season in the US, but I would expect to see recoveries start catching up fairly quickly.

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I know it's probably been discussed, but why do we care about recovered?
 
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newyorkvol said:
Not really sure honestly. But that’s 80% under 65.

I’m guessing it’s a result of increased testing. Probably closer indication of disease in the whole population.
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Seems so irregular that it is purposeful. Maybe there is a lot from 40-44, but you put 18-44 to continue to drive the fear????
 
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