Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Girth Brooks]

 

[508mikey]

I don't think you want to go there.

oh I wont - Im fed up with it all, there is nothing that will change, until people cant pay their internet/phone bills, only then no more news for them

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You would be guessing wrong. I also think you are misinterpreting what the article is referencing.

Believe what you want

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Glad that in the midst of this human illness you haven't lost sight of what really matters: the performance of your portfolio.

Kinda like you constantly obsessing over Trump during all of this.

 

[Orangeburst]

Like for the Andy Griffith show line

Which episode?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

oh I wont - Im fed up with it all, there is nothing that will change, until people cant pay their internet/phone bills, only then no more news for them

Yes, because CNN is the only network spreading gobs of horsesh** during this.

 

[ButchPlz]

Yes, because CNN is the only network spreading gobs of horsesh** during this.

This event is uniting doomer preppers and entitled suburban lefties like never before.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Siap

Elon Musk: Should Have 1000 Ventilators Next Week, + 250,000 N95 Masks For Hospitals Tomorrow — CleanTechnica Exclusive | CleanTechnica

 

[508mikey]

Yes, because CNN is the only network spreading gobs of horsesh** during this.

seems they all are -- gotta one up the other

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

What do they consider recovered?

I don't know their criteria. They also don't account for time lag for the death rate as the CDC does with other viral tracking. I don't believe the recovered rate is 0.05%, but I have seen these figures used multiple times to claim a definitive trend in the death rate. If you don't believe the recovery rate is 178/32,544, you also should not believe the death rate is 403/32,544.

 

[lawgator1]

Elon Musk: Should Have 1000 Ventilators Next Week, + 250,000 N95 Masks For Hospitals Tomorrow — CleanTechnica Exclusive | CleanTechnica

That's good news, as well.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

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[VolsSportsFan]

seems they all are -- gotta one up the other

Yet you call out CNN specifically.

 

[volbeast33]

I don't know their criteria. They also don't account for time lag for the death rate as the CDC does with other viral tracking. I don't believe the recovered rate is 0.05%, but I have seen these figures used multiple times to claim a definitive trend in the death rate. If you don't believe the recovery rate is 178/32,544, you also should not believe the death rate is 403/32,544.

I don’t care what the death rate is.... I’m just curious how the determine someone has recovered.

 

[508mikey]

Yet you call out CNN specifically.

no - just example - I could have used MSN

 

[volfanjustin]

Justin the effect is already happening to the economy. My company laid off over 500 employees yesterday. All management staff had to take a pay cut. I lost 30% of my pay. I will possibly lose my job in a few weeks.

There is fear everywhere. The market is tanking. I was against a shutdown but at this point we need a reset.

IMHO the best thing that can happen to the economy is to shut everything down for a week or two and let everyone get over their fear. The recovery will be much faster than prolonging this.

I am guessing you are a small business owner and understand your concerns but at some point we have to get some normalcy back or the recovery can take years instead of months.

First I’m sorry to hear all that, hopefully things rebound for you and soon.
I am not the owner but am in upper management with the company. Millions are losing their job, the panic has to stop. We can’t shut the country down because 1% of the population may get sick

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

I don’t care what the death rate is.... I’m just curious how the determine someone has recovered.

I don't know how the quoted source interprets this. Most accounts I've read require two negative tests over 24 hours to ensure no continued viral shedding.

 

[lawgator1]

I don’t care what the death rate is.... I’m just curious how the determine someone has recovered.

World mortality rate is approx 4.2 percent, but that's without knowing full denominator. I suppose we could also see more deaths in certain areas.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

no - just example - I could have used MSN

 

[lawgator1]

Justin the effect is already happening to the economy. My company laid off over 500 employees yesterday. All management staff had to take a pay cut. I lost 30% of my pay. I will possibly lose my job in a few weeks.

There is fear everywhere. The market is tanking. I was against a shutdown but at this point we need a reset.

IMHO the best thing that can happen to the economy is to shut everything down for a week or two and let everyone get over their fear. The recovery will be much faster than prolonging this.

I am guessing you are a small business owner and understand your concerns but at some point we have to get some normalcy back or the recovery can take years instead of months.

I suspect we are heading towards a national 2 week quarantine.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

Believe what you want

What do you think they are claiming is 6% - 6.9% in the article you linked? You were comparing it to someone referencing an estimated death rate of coronavirus. The death rate of the flu is certainly not 6 - 6.9%, nor does the data that your article links to claim it to be. The CDC link in your article references a P&I mortality percentage, and it provides a link to the surveillance data (also CDC):

"5. Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) mortality surveillance data – NCHS collects death certificate data from state vital statistics offices for all deaths occurring in the United States. Pneumonia and influenza (P&I) deaths are identified based on ICD-10 multiple cause of death codes. NCHS surveillance data are aggregated by the week of death occurrence. To allow for collection of enough data to produce a stable P&I percentage, NCHS surveillance data are released one week after the week of death. The NCHS surveillance data are used to calculate the percent of all deaths occurring in a given week that had pneumonia and/or influenza listed as a cause of death. The P&I percentage for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. The P&I percentage is compared to a seasonal baseline of P&I deaths that is calculated using a periodic regression model incorporating a robust regression procedure applied to data from the previous five years. An increase of 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline of P&I deaths is considered the “epidemic threshold,” i.e., the point at which the observed proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia or influenza was significantly higher than would be expected at that time of the year in the absence of substantial influenza-related mortality."

This is all from the data you linked, and in no way does it equate to a death rate of the flu, and .6% is less than 6% or 6.9%.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

This is a much better approach by Trump today, at least so far. Giving numbers about what's being done.

When the tough questions come I hope he just sticks to talking about what is being done and plans for increases. No blaming. Just move on to dealing with it.

You have people saying it's like it is because he was so slow to react. He stopped flights to China Jan 31 and was called a xenophobe. The WHO even said that wasn't necessary.
Are you calling those out thats blaming him?

 

[volbeast33]

I don't know how the quoted source interprets this. Most accounts I've read require two negative tests over 24 hours to ensure no continued viral shedding.

There is several people that they just quarantine for two weeks.... I was curious if they quarantine for two weeks and then do tests to determine they are cured?

 

[1972 Grad]

The scary part of this really is the panic that it's bringing out in otherwise rational people. I went to the Northshore Kroger with my ex-wife this morning (she insisted) and she yelled at a young clerk (maybe 18?) and made a scene because they were out of Dasani water bottles. I've seen her on her worst behavior and never seen anything like that. Embarrassing doesn't begin to describe it.

There is a reason some become ex-wives. Sorry.