Coronavirus (No politics)

[VolnJC]

Apparently you can convert a bra into a mask fairly easy

 

[allvol123]

Until the UAW got involved, the Big 3 intended to do just that. They were only going to close for a day.

I was providing sectors of the economy that don’t depend on “foot traffic”. Are you contending the entire economy depends on foot traffic?

Yes, the economy depends on the nation not barricading themselves inside for weeks.

 

[DynaLo]

Why are you buying N95 masks? Do you work in the health field?

You do know they sell them at big box stores and paint stores etc, for sanding and painting, so folks who purchased from there aren’t taking away from health care workers. I doubt that over a month ago any med staff where headed to HD or Sherman-Williams for N95 masks.

I absolutely understand the current shortages in health care, but don’t crap on folks who were proactive during January and February in looking out for their families.

 

[AM64]

Dude, there's people in the medical field that need it way more than you. 14? Come on. I'm seeing patients and me nor my staff can get any

Hospitals could have had much larger stocks months ago by simply buying and storing masks, but they didn't. Today's business model (including hospitals) is all about getting someone else to warehouse and have on their books (not yours) the supplies you need. The "just in time" concept works fine when things are all normal - not so well when you have people to protect and things aren't normal, supply chains are disrupted, or both.

 

[Power T-Rev]

Hospitals could have had much larger stocks months ago by simply buying and storing masks, but they didn't. Today's business model (including hospitals) is all about getting someone else to warehouse and have on their books (not yours) the supplies you need. The "just in time" concept works fine when things are all normal - not so well when you have people to protect and things aren't normal, supply chains are disrupted, or both.

We dont need citizens hoarding masks. 14 masks. Come on

 

[AM64]

Apparently you can convert a bra into a mask fairly easy

Yeah, but those damn hooks ... The bane of every male past puberty.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Yeah, but those damn hooks ... The bane of every male past puberty.

Guess I'm a Ninja.

 

[AM64]

We dont need citizens hoarding masks. 14 masks. Come on

You can't say someone sanding and refinishing didn't need them, or someone didn't need them for outdoor work - the pollen is already showing on my car. What was keeping hospital purchasing people from getting off their butts and competing with do it yourselfers?

 

[rocktopper16]

Manufacturing: Big 3 in Detroit. Toyota in Georgetown just extended theirs 10 days.

If you want outside if the auto industry, give me about 5 minutes and I’ll find several more. Probably even some extraction work if I look.

I could argue more than a few tertiary sectors fit that. Non-affected healthcare sections. Banking and legal activities (even if they didn’t shut down, they spent considerable funds quickly shifting to remote work.) Several governments and their agencies have done the same.

I’d even go so far as to include education and research.

Yamaha closed
Searay closed
CVG to close next week

&& My company JTEKT who supplies Toyota and the other big 3 has closed for the next two weeks with a extension possible.
Toyota shut down because a employee got infected in Canada & they followed suit of GM. Production numbers dropped dramatically last week and orders haven’t came in for April.

 

[volatil]

Major changes in my office coming Monday, and I'm trying to wrap my head around them. It's just surreal.

All the while, the campground is completely sane and normal. Other than the damn trout not biting anything we threw at them, you'd never know the world was upside down.

I’m 100% telemedicine starting Monday

 

[AM64]

I’m 100% telemedicine starting Monday

Military?

 

[TennesseeFan07]

"Business as usual" approach with my work. And, if we do have to shut down, it will count as vacation time.

 

[kiddiedoc]

It's so hard for me to put an opinion out there, knowing that so many parents trust me with the health of their kids.

After 48 hours of reflection, hearing from colleagues, studying the numbers, and making some really tough decisions about my office, I'm doubting that our response has been appropriate.

I think that an aggressive targeted effort to isolate at-risk individuals might have been a better approach. Closing access to nursing homes, keeping older folks at home with programs to provide food/meds/etc, limiting mass gatherings without shutting down the economy, preparing hospitals, etc. I'm afraid that the business and financial damage will be far greater than the medical impact, at this point.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I’m 100% telemedicine starting Monday

What field are you in, if you don't mind sharing? We have discussed this option, but I'm categorically opposed, TBH.

 

[hog88]

Ok, you’ve covered retail.

And the rest?

lawyers

 

[rocktopper16]

It's so hard for me to put an opinion out there, knowing that so many parents trust me with the health of their kids.

After 48 hours of reflection, hearing from colleagues, studying the numbers, and making some really tough decisions about my office, I'm doubting that our response has been appropriate.

I think that an aggressive targeted effort to isolate at-risk individuals might have been a better approach. Closing access to nursing homes, keeping older folks at home with programs to provide food/meds/etc, limiting mass gatherings without shutting down the economy, preparing hospitals, etc. I'm afraid that the business and financial damage will be far greater than the medical impact, at this point.

I agree, 100%. I don’t see America recovering from this anytime soon.

 

[volatil]

Military?

Im an NP. I’m the only provider in a clinic that does Primary care, Urgent Care. I also work in the Hospitalist office at a hospital in Middle Tennessee.

 

[DynaLo]

We dont need citizens hoarding masks. 14 masks. Come on

Your beef should be with the folks that bought thousands of masks in order to profit from them on resale. 14 masks isn’t hoarding by any stretch. 2 family members buying groceries can go through that rather quickly.

 

[volatil]

What field are you in, if you don't mind sharing? We have discussed this option, but I'm categorically opposed, TBH.

It’s not ideal for sure.

 

[AM64]

What field are you in, if you don't mind sharing? We have discussed this option, but I'm categorically opposed, TBH.

The Army showed a demo at a retiree event a couple of years ago - they didn't sell me either, but it's clearly not my field. Maybe better than nothing, but not something to hang your hat on either.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I agree, 100%. I don’t see America recovering from this anytime soon.

You are in the medical field too, right?

I'm literally heart-broken hearing about what is happening in so many of my friends' offices come Monday. Practices that have been built with a decade+ of incredible determination are falling apart. Families that will be left without a job. Patients left without much-needed care...

This impact has to be considered.

 

[AM64]

Im an NP. I’m the only provider in a clinic that does Primary care, Urgent Care. I also work in the Hospitalist office at a hospital in Middle Tennessee.

So you see the patient and consult with a hospital like Vanderbilt?

 

[BigOrangeAl 1979]

You do know they sell them at big box stores and paint stores etc, for sanding and painting, so folks who purchased from there aren’t taking away from health care workers. I doubt that over a month ago any med staff where headed to HD or Sherman-Williams for N95 masks.

I absolutely understand the current shortages in health care, but don’t crap on folks who were proactive during January and February in looking out for their families.

. My wife didn’t understand me buying them at in mid February but I saw that this might happen was really hoping it wouldn’t but here we are. I just wish I had of stocked up on toilet paper as well lol.

 

[kiddiedoc]

It’s not ideal for sure.

I've warmed a bit to some limited encounters for stuff like ADHD med refills, but there's no substitute for actually seeing and examining patients.

Example: when one of my patients presents with a 103 fever and cough, there are a number of problems that can't be diagnosed by phone, and -- frankly -- are more dangerous than CV infection or need to be treated differently (bacterial pneumonia, ear infection, croup, asthma attack/bronchospasm, meningitis, sepsis, etc).

 

[volatil]

I've warmed a bit to some limited encounters for stuff like ADHD med refills, but there's no substitute for actually seeing and examining patients.

Example: when one of my patients presents with a 103 fever and cough, there are a number of problems that can't be diagnosed by phone, and -- frankly -- are more dangerous than CV infection or need to be treated differently (bacterial pneumonia, ear infection, croup, asthma attack/bronchospasm, meningitis, sepsis, etc).

It’s video chat. I still have a problem with no vitals and like you said lack of assessment. Going to be overprescribing antibiotics honestly. No way for me to know it’s not strep or ear infection. Thankfully I have had several patients come in for labs recently (I have them come in a week before their physical so I have results). I can do those visits fairly easily. Hopefully this is seasonal and dies down with warmer weather.