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Catbone said:
I just hope we have a football season this year. Telling y'all coronavirus is here to stay
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It’s been here forever already. It’s mostly referred to as the common cold. 🤔

Time to quit being overly dramatic about it. Treat it as a more virulent strain, take precautions and go on with your life. This pandemic will pass.

I am over all of the media drama. However, it has taken all the focus away from the “Opioid Crisis” for which I am thankful.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Ok. The US shows roughly 20,000 confirmed cases of the Chinese virus. We show a meager 276 deaths. We also show a meager 147 recovered. That means almost all the cases are still unresolved. How can any mortality rate be determined? I mean if you take all the resolved cases, the numbers are pretty frightening. I'm not suggesting that the death:recovery ratio is 2:1 but merely pointing out we don't know where this is headed.
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It's not the mortality rate that's most worrying, it's how contagious and infectious it is. Best to think of it as a very bad flu that almost everyone will catch (yes, even with the soft quarantines going on) due to no prior immunity/exposure to this. If 80% of the population got infected with a very, very bad flu over the course of 3-4 months, MILLIONS would die, even if the virus itself isn't particularly fatal, simply because there's 327.2 million residents of the U.S. and many are in poor health. So hospitals become overloaded and unable to treat all of those patients, as well as patients with other health problems/accidents/injuries.

People need to stop thinking about the mortality rate and instead focus on how likely it is that the vast majority of the population will get infected. Those infections must be managed and spread out rather than all occurring this spring and summer. Or, if you prefer focusing on the mortality rate, extrapolate that out to millions of infected. Potentially hundreds of millions.
 
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GiggerVol said:
Speaking of road trips, the one I will never forget was from Mid. TN to New Orleans for the '85 Sugar Bowl against Miami with 3 buddies. Oh, the stories I recollect from that trip just like it was last week. One of the buddies passed away from cancer several years ago but every time I meet and talk with either of the other two, we reminisce and chuckle about that trip.
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I saw you there.
My face was painted orange and white.
I had a bottle of champagne stuck in the inside pocket of my leather jacket. Had to lift my arm over my head to take a drink. Was drunk enough that it never occurred to me to just take the jacket off. 😂
 
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Pepe said:
I used to know a woman who refused to buy toilet paper. Always stole hers from bars and restaurants.
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Ok.......

It’s my one, really weird, quirky thing.....I have never purchased a roll of TP in my life. Mom, wives, roommates, etc.....but I never have. I get it...... in a real pinch, Kleenex works.o_O
 
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Devo182 said:
SK really did a quick turnaround and they did an extraordinary job of testing and epidemiological research to prevent spread...unlike us.

Italy is about 1 month in and cases are still growing. China peaked in about that time, but took 2 more weeks of tapering to get to lower levels.

I think it remains to be seen where we fall. We have certainly approached this more like China than SK. Hopefully the strong measures and quarantines pay dividends, but will take time and have to be maintained. One thing SK leaders stressed was not being complacent and it seems they listened and really have it at a very maintainable level.
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SK is 1/7th the size of Texas. They put smart measures in place quickly but hard to extrapolate their approach to much larger geographic areas.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Think that she is Going batshit crazy with mandated social distancing? It’s gotta be just making her miserable. Or is she sneaking around violating players’ safe places? 😳
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Heard she has a pretty long tongue and that "Billy Big Mouth Vagina" of hers has some range on it.....roast beef cutains, ewwww!
 
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Aesius said:
It's not the mortality rate that's most worrying, it's how contagious and infectious it is. Best to think of it as a very bad flu that almost everyone will catch (yes, even with the soft quarantines going on) due to no prior immunity/exposure to this. If 80% of the population got infected with a very, very bad flu over the course of 3-4 months, MILLIONS would die, even if the virus itself isn't particularly fatal, simply because there's 327.2 million residents of the U.S. and many are in poor health. So hospitals become overloaded and unable to treat all of those patients, as well as patients with other health problems/accidents/injuries.

People need to stop thinking about the mortality rate and instead focus on how likely it is that the vast majority of the population will get infected. Those infections must be managed and spread out rather than all occurring this spring and summer. Or, if you prefer focusing on the mortality rate, extrapolate that out to millions of infected. Potentially hundreds of millions.
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Yeah I get that. My point was that the mortality rate that's being touted is bogus because there are so many cases where the outcome is tbd.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Ok. The US shows roughly 20,000 confirmed cases of the Chinese virus. We show a meager 276 deaths. We also show a meager 147 recovered. That means almost all the cases are still unresolved. How can any mortality rate be determined? I mean if you take all the resolved cases, the numbers are pretty frightening. I'm not suggesting that the death:recovery ratio is 2:1 but merely pointing out we don't know where this is headed.
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We have no idea what it will be here. The best we can do is look at other places further along and see how it’s going. SK‘s rate is increasing... it‘s up to 1.1% now. They tested 200k and apparently stopped the spread, so from here on out it will be additional deaths among the remaining 81% yet unresolved.
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
Charger, if you are still reading, call your local clinic NOW, tell them your symptoms. A 104 fever is no joke. And if you start having difficulty breathing, go straight to ER.
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Think I'm gonna call about the test. I'm not overly worried about myself, haven't had any breathing issues, which seems to be the real concern. Mostly just feel like crap.

But the last thing I would want is to infect someone with respiratory issues. And talk about timing!!! just got these texts, lol.

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chargervol said:
I have no idea what I have, been running a fever near 104 for 2 days, can't stop coughing and don't feel like moving. And the worst part, it's kicked my pancreas into high gear😕

This is following my son doing the same for the last week but his was much more mild, slightly lethargic, only around 100° temp but more coughing. Honestly thought it was his allergies.

Might be a severe cold or the regular flu, for all I know. But if it is the other, stats can gtfo.. this absolutely sucks.
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Oh man..☹
 
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chargervol said:
Texting with my mom, she relayed this story:
In line at the grocery yesterday, another woman was griping and said
"this limit of 2 packs on toilet paper is ridiculous. They're so inconsiderate, I'm having to make 2 or 3 trips a day to stock up"

Haha, people.
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With the list of states going to mandatory lockdowns growing along with the obstacles being thrown at our truckers, it's not so silly to think at some point, the supply chains will be impacted to the point we will legitimately have shortages. This country can't just shut everything down for an extended period. A recession is a certainty. A depression and civil unrest looms large. It might end up that our efforts to fight this disease might be more damaging to our society than the disease itself. The thought of this govt gaining even more power/control and centralizing it even further is a nightmare.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Ok. The US shows roughly 20,000 confirmed cases of the Chinese virus. We show a meager 276 deaths. We also show a meager 147 recovered. That means almost all the cases are still unresolved. How can any mortality rate be determined? I mean if you take all the resolved cases, the numbers are pretty frightening. I'm not suggesting that the death:recovery ratio is 2:1 but merely pointing out we don't know where this is headed.
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China Italy South Korea and several other countries, plus Washington State have "gotten to the other side" of the curve so to speak, so they have relatively reliable rates and other data... Though I just don't know if China's numbers can be absolutely trusted...?

And the reason there's so many unresolved cases is because of the spike in testing over the past few days.... The majority of our cases are brand new... At least on the books that is..

I would expect our numbers to increase more as testing becomes more readily available.

Based on what some of those other places experienced and the timelines they have shown... And assuming testing here continues like it is now... Could be less if it gets really ramped up...It may be another 2 or three weeks before we have enough testing done to see the numbers start to go down.

But yeah overall we won't know true morality rates till we get towards the end and that could be a few months away.

And that's not to scare or anything... Just some common sense on the math knowing incubation times, current testing rates, and that this thing has probably been in the US for several months, before any preventive measures were taken, and a lot of people that aren't symptomatic won't (and shouldn't if they're not) get tested right away, if at all.. but might later on should they...

I do think the measures currently in place will, and likely already has, slow the spread... But again, this thing has probably been here for several months..

And some people will never be symptomatic, never get tested and that's why there's already talk about a second wave.

So I'm expecting an extension of some of these measures while some will get relaxed..

Either way..I say knock it all out now. So that when we do normalize again there's much less chance of having to do it again later in the year.... Cause if we do have to do it a second time... There will likely be an over reaction from "lessons learned"from what we're doing now, that they would then think we should have done to begin with... And that won't be good lol.

Anyway... Use common sense, follow the guidelines set out and don't over use or abuse resources that could get scarce... Oh and limit your news watching and Corona virus social media stuff to like once a day... Most of it is toxic... And can drive folks batty. Lol

I'm not really worried for me or my family...But I do think it's foolish to be cavalier about this thing.... Both my parents fit the "at risk" profile... So The goal being to not spread it to people that can get really sick and could die.... how we handle this right now will affect the Moriarty rate as well.

Boy scout motto applies..."Be Prepared"...

#justdontbedumbaboutit
 
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volatil said:
South Korea tested 250,000 of the 52,000,000 population
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That is what I was just about to point out...IF..this thing is as contagious as they say, which it seems to be, then there would have been millions infected...not just 250,000 in a place packed as tightly as SK is.
 
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CAVPUT said:
With the list of states going to mandatory lockdowns growing along with the obstacles being thrown at our truckers, it's not so silly to think at some point, the supply chains will be impacted to the point we will legitimately have shortages. This country can't just shut everything down for an extended period. A recession is a certainty. A depression and civil unrest looms large. It might end up that our efforts to fight this disease might be more damaging to our society than the disease itself. The thought of this govt gaining even more power/control and centralizing it even further is a nightmare.
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That has been my concern from tbe beginning.
 
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